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dunno man ... allen robinson had 38 catches in 12 games last year.
He doesn't look good out there to me... plays soft and looks slow.
i dont see the "2nd best weapon" at all.....
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He doesn't look good out there to me... plays soft and looks slow.
i dont see the "2nd best weapon" at all.....
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Wanna get this out here before it's too late. We gave up 17 points tonight. And scored 2 (9 points a threw a pick 6). Don't let Mcvay off the hook. against the niners, Running play action, calling long developing routes, and not knowing how to scheme anyone open but Kupp is BAD FOOTBALL .
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That's a good segue to my vent, because it starts at the top.
Since at least the beginning of the 2020 season, every regular season game against these guys has looked exactly the same. Our offensive and defensive gameplans have looked the same, and they play right into the 49ers strengths and hide their weaknesses. We never see anything new against these guys, and after all of these ass-whippings, you'd think we would. McVay and Morris (and Staley for two games before Raheem) are making it easy for the 9ers staff.
So while I won't defend the play QB1 and won't ignore the injuries in the IOL and DBs, I still pin most of the blame for this one on McVay and Morris. They did nothing different from any other recent loss to these guys and got the same result.
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Shades of Mike Curtis
Gotta love the Manning cast for breaking it down
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Stafford really hurt us tonight. TDs were there to be had in the red zone, but he missed them. And his turnovers were costly. You have to take the good and the bad with Matthew, but I wish he could save his stinkers and turnovers for someone other than the 49ers. Or prime time.
Speaking of turnovers, Stafford locks onto Kupp too much. It is killing us. It makes the Rams' offense too predictable. And it sees Kupp's injury risk shoot through the roof with this much usage. On the INT where Matthew targeted Kupp on the screen pass, he telegraphed the throw the entire way, and then threw a slow-pitch. That can't happen. RGIII had an interesting tweet indicating that the RB, on the other side of the field (!), is who that play is designed for and not the WR. Which would explain why McVay was talking to Stafford after with lots of displeasure on his face... brutal.
The offensive line is in complete shambles. Hopefully, Shelton is okay. We need to get healthy in the worst way, but I thought our 2nd and 3rd stingers actually played about as well as one could reasonable expect, so hats off to them. We were on the road vs. an absolutely elite defence and moved the ball well, just stalling in the red zone.
ARob is averaging 3 targets per game, and that is with Van Jefferson not even in the lineup. Ouch. He looks like a bust, but who can even say, with this little usage? And of the few targets he does get, a few have been absolute prayers. Not 50-50 balls looking for a contested catch. Complete miracle balls. We need to force feed him and see what we have. If he is washed, so be it, but he is not even getting looks, and to my eye, he has been open plenty of times.
I do think that the team misses Van Jefferson as a deep threat, which will hopefully help stretch the field and open things up for everyone. But if Van Jefferson is being pined over, you're in trouble. And Tutu is not even active as we look for a field stretcher. Complete bust. It's official now. Sad.
Zero pass rush. Donald played great, at times drawing triple teams (!). Yet I don't think I noticed another defensive lineman all night, and the 49ers had some injuries on their o-line, too. This defensive line needs help. Perhaps we should have just paid Von Miller...
Akers looks to be toast. Hendo needs to be the lead back going forward. Which makes this one weak, injury prone RB room. Hopefully, Kyren Williams can show something once he is back, which I believe might be for week 8 after the bye week.
The defense was awful. Missed tacklers everywhere. Soft coverage. We did not give up too many points, but that is only because the 49ers missed on several huge plays, with dropped passes and inaccurate throws, as well as a FG. The jury is still out on Raheem Morris but the fact I am saying this 1.25 years into his tenure is very concerning. Has he ever devised an excellent game plan against a strong opponent without the benefit of having both AD99 on Miller on the d-line? I cannot seem to recall one, but am open to correction.
Wager was brought in for precisely this type of game, but his impact tonight was minimal, save for one very nice TD saving tackle on the goal-line. He has been very underwhelming thus far in horns. Hugely disappointing.
I thought McVay called a decent game. It's not up to him to execute in the red zone. The plays were there to be made.
It is a long season. It is about how you look in January and no early October. But right now, I don't see this team having even a slight change of repeating. No way we beat any of the AFC juggernauts right now. Perhaps we can make some adjustments and add to the roster as the season progresses. The NFC is so weak that I think we have as good of a chance as anyone else in-conference of making it to the big game, if we can heal up and stay relatively healthy thereafter. But no way we can dance with the AFC at present.
Probably much more I am forgetting...
Speaking of turnovers, Stafford locks onto Kupp too much. It is killing us. It makes the Rams' offense too predictable. And it sees Kupp's injury risk shoot through the roof with this much usage. On the INT where Matthew targeted Kupp on the screen pass, he telegraphed the throw the entire way, and then threw a slow-pitch. That can't happen. RGIII had an interesting tweet indicating that the RB, on the other side of the field (!), is who that play is designed for and not the WR. Which would explain why McVay was talking to Stafford after with lots of displeasure on his face... brutal.
The offensive line is in complete shambles. Hopefully, Shelton is okay. We need to get healthy in the worst way, but I thought our 2nd and 3rd stingers actually played about as well as one could reasonable expect, so hats off to them. We were on the road vs. an absolutely elite defence and moved the ball well, just stalling in the red zone.
ARob is averaging 3 targets per game, and that is with Van Jefferson not even in the lineup. Ouch. He looks like a bust, but who can even say, with this little usage? And of the few targets he does get, a few have been absolute prayers. Not 50-50 balls looking for a contested catch. Complete miracle balls. We need to force feed him and see what we have. If he is washed, so be it, but he is not even getting looks, and to my eye, he has been open plenty of times.
I do think that the team misses Van Jefferson as a deep threat, which will hopefully help stretch the field and open things up for everyone. But if Van Jefferson is being pined over, you're in trouble. And Tutu is not even active as we look for a field stretcher. Complete bust. It's official now. Sad.
Zero pass rush. Donald played great, at times drawing triple teams (!). Yet I don't think I noticed another defensive lineman all night, and the 49ers had some injuries on their o-line, too. This defensive line needs help. Perhaps we should have just paid Von Miller...
Akers looks to be toast. Hendo needs to be the lead back going forward. Which makes this one weak, injury prone RB room. Hopefully, Kyren Williams can show something once he is back, which I believe might be for week 8 after the bye week.
The defense was awful. Missed tacklers everywhere. Soft coverage. We did not give up too many points, but that is only because the 49ers missed on several huge plays, with dropped passes and inaccurate throws, as well as a FG. The jury is still out on Raheem Morris but the fact I am saying this 1.25 years into his tenure is very concerning. Has he ever devised an excellent game plan against a strong opponent without the benefit of having both AD99 on Miller on the d-line? I cannot seem to recall one, but am open to correction.
Wager was brought in for precisely this type of game, but his impact tonight was minimal, save for one very nice TD saving tackle on the goal-line. He has been very underwhelming thus far in horns. Hugely disappointing.
I thought McVay called a decent game. It's not up to him to execute in the red zone. The plays were there to be made.
It is a long season. It is about how you look in January and no early October. But right now, I don't see this team having even a slight change of repeating. No way we beat any of the AFC juggernauts right now. Perhaps we can make some adjustments and add to the roster as the season progresses. The NFC is so weak that I think we have as good of a chance as anyone else in-conference of making it to the big game, if we can heal up and stay relatively healthy thereafter. But no way we can dance with the AFC at present.
Probably much more I am forgetting...
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Really shitty play calling in the red zone.
4 trips 0 TDs, 3 FGs and a turn over.
No innovation, no new wrinkles for a division opponent. This is on McVay.
The Oline is beat to hell, everyone knew it before the game. Losing Shelton made it worse but the game plan was too vanilla.
The defense isn’t very good either. Allowing 2 long TDs just bad football, poor tackling and our “stud” ILBs didn’t show up.
4 trips 0 TDs, 3 FGs and a turn over.
No innovation, no new wrinkles for a division opponent. This is on McVay.
The Oline is beat to hell, everyone knew it before the game. Losing Shelton made it worse but the game plan was too vanilla.
The defense isn’t very good either. Allowing 2 long TDs just bad football, poor tackling and our “stud” ILBs didn’t show up.
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I'm almost thinking McVay should just hold Kupp out of practice for a week (or at least keep him separated from the rest of the 1's) and force Stafford and ARob to start working together.
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Exactly right. We've gotten whipped up front no matter who was on the line and our defense gets gashed no matter who is there. It's coaching.
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You know, it's not even the line play that gets me so much in this one though. They didn't even rush for 100 yards. It's that we give these huge cushions to Jimmy G game after game and let him do the dink and dunk shit that eventually turns into big plays instead of forcing him to throw downfield and go through his reads.
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Some guy on reddit posted that we should just forfeit our games with the Niners at this point and give our boys some extra bye weeks. I laughed but then thought to myself "what good ever comes of these games?" And the answer is nothing, if anything we lose players to injury. We'd never do it, obviously, but it really is THAT bad against these guys.
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One slight positive to add to the venting: it always sucks losing to the 49ers, but only one Rams-49ers contest has mattered in the big picture in many, many years. And we won that one. Immediately followed by winning the Super Bowl. So that really takes some string out of the losses for me. Losing to SF these past few years always bothered me for weeks on end. But since beating the 49ers in the NFC Final, the games just don't have that same level of gravity for me. I'll be over this loss by morning. It's a general feeling of "meh, so what, we beat you when it mattered most". And thank God, because these regular season losses are getting old! I think many 49ers fans feel the same way, because after the Rams won the 2021-22 NFC Final, many 49ers fans; posts essentially amounted to "who cares about the regular season record, I'd trade it all to have moved on to the Super Bowl". For some of them, it was no doubt the post-loss emotions talking. But many appeared to really mean it, and not unsurprisingly or unreasonably so IMO.
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2019 all over.
Everyone else will get the blame, the coach, the QB, the RB's etc.
The problem is the injuries at Oline at the moment. This is our biggest issue.
Playing an idiotic soft zone defense is the 2nd concern. In a game vs Gstring where we know he relies on short throws.
But F it. We will get healthy and recover. Go time aint here yet.
Meanwhile there are some positives, even in a vent thread. Some young dudes are getting some critical experience. Kendrick looks like he could shape into an impact player. The way he is playing so early as a rookie is great to see. AJ Jackson looks good and Kolone is getting some experience.
OBJ might turn into a must sign if Robinson doesn't materialize.
Everyone else will get the blame, the coach, the QB, the RB's etc.
The problem is the injuries at Oline at the moment. This is our biggest issue.
Playing an idiotic soft zone defense is the 2nd concern. In a game vs Gstring where we know he relies on short throws.
But F it. We will get healthy and recover. Go time aint here yet.
Meanwhile there are some positives, even in a vent thread. Some young dudes are getting some critical experience. Kendrick looks like he could shape into an impact player. The way he is playing so early as a rookie is great to see. AJ Jackson looks good and Kolone is getting some experience.
OBJ might turn into a must sign if Robinson doesn't materialize.
Robinson is such a disappointment they are paying him big money and he just isn’t adding anything to the offense. I still blame McVays play calling and Stafford locking onto Kupp but Robinson just doesn’t pass the eye test out there.
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