Trade Deadline Rumors and Trades

[Elmgrovegnome]

Do Rams fans overrate the value of draft picks? Or is it that they hate doing mocks that start on day 2 and 3 ?

For this year and this trade deadline I’m cool with no splash. There’s nobody out there available IMO who warrants moving a bunch of picks for.

I’d rather stay the course and remember that sustainability for 2023 and beyond is important too. We just won a title. Anyone else where I’m at on this?

If the idea is that we’re doomed once the big four are gone/retired then what’s the point? I’d like to think the Rams are better than that. Let’s be the Ravens, Steelers, Packers etc and stay relevant consistently.

There is no sense in overpaying, or for making a trade, just to make a trade.

But, I’d argue that Snead has gotten greater value from trades than he likely would have if he used the picks in the draft. This is mostly based on his early pick record.

The Cooks talk is confusing. But maybe it’s a means to a different end.

The glaring holes on the roster, Oline, RBs, and edge, won’t likely be filled unless they have some higher draft picks to pick them with. As long as Snead doesn’t throw them away on luxuries instead of needs.

 

[blackbart]

Do Rams fans overrate the value of draft picks? Or is it that they hate doing mocks that start on day 2 and 3 ?

For this year and this trade deadline I’m cool with no splash. There’s nobody out there available IMO who warrants moving a bunch of picks for.

I’d rather stay the course and remember that sustainability for 2023 and beyond is important too. We just won a title. Anyone else where I’m at on this?

If the idea is that we’re doomed once the big four are gone/retired then what’s the point? I’d like to think the Rams are better than that. Let’s be the Ravens, Steelers, Packers etc and stay relevant consistently.

I think the FO has to be more cognizant of the affects of dumping pick into the pit of rental players.

If they can’t do better than that, I’m onboard with your point of retaining picks to build for the future.

 

[Corbin]

Four years of a cheap starter is very valuable. Boosting them to get a comp pick to replace the pick used on them is even more valuable. Them not resigning always with the drafting team doesn't really change anything.

I don’t think you quite understand that graph.

6-8% of 6th and 7th round picks actually get a second contract with the team that drafted them.

Question? Do we have 11 6th and 7th rounders who we can draft to have one that works out numerically?

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[OldSchool]

6-8% of 6th and 7th round picks actually get a second contract with the team that drafted them.

I get that 100% and still say there's nothing wrong with getting for years of play from a 6th round pick. Your chart says a combined roughly 20% of 6th round picks get a second contract. Some with other teams some with the team that drafts them. The Rams currently have 15 day three draft picks (5 6 and 7th round) and another 8 from round 4 that are technically also day 3 but usually considered mid round picks.

Again I get the chart and I don't see a problem with 20% of 6th round picks. Those are valuable roster pieces for depth and the occasional starter not to mention special teams contributions. Hell the chart has 2nd round picks only twice as likely to get a 2nd contract with their drafting team.

 

[Flatlyner]

Good lord if the headline Monday morning is "Rams Trade for Cooks" I'm going to be physically ill. Literally almost think Jefferson is better at this point, doesn't have a huge salary, isn't out of the league with one more concussion, is bigger, is younger, has fresh legs, ect ect. The last thing we need is a WR, honestly. All the trade chips we have should be concentrated on edge and/or RB, possibly OL. Anything else is McVay getting too fancy.

 

[JoeBo21]

Good lord if the headline Monday morning is "Rams Trade for Cooks" I'm going to be physically ill. Literally almost think Jefferson is better at this point, doesn't have a huge salary, isn't out of the league with one more concussion, is bigger, is younger, has fresh legs, ect ect. The last thing we need is a WR, honestly. All the trade chips we have should be concentrated on edge and/or RB, possibly OL. Anything else is McVay getting too fancy.

THIS

 

[dang]

HEY!

I meant Holden Cantor retweeting NFLRumors.

 

[payote75]

Yeah, and I saw that.

It was reported by Mike Florio, who many posters were calling an asshole a couple days ago for suggesting that some Rams' players may be tuning-out McVay and his 'schtick'.

The report also stated that ... 'Cooks is willing to take less guaranteed money in 2023 in order to return to L.A'
That seems a little goofy. Cooks signed a two-year extension six months ago that was mostly fully guaranteed ($39.7M, and $36M guaranteed). I suppose he could re-work the deal but when was the last time a player gave-up guaranteed money?

The pass-blocking has been poor. Stafford doesn't have time, and is taking to many hits. The run-blocking has also been poor; and the Rams are low on running backs. No one is effectively rushing off the edge. Jefferson is coming back. Robinson finally had a productive game.

So let's add a Wide Receiver with a big contract! I don't know. It's the Rams, so anything is possible.

I know dude I saw all of it now Jake Ellenbogen is putting of a video about it. So there seems to be some buzz. Page is for trades and rumors don't shoot the messenger lolol

 

[swmizzou83]

Is it possible teams may value Robinson or Van more than Cooks so we are going to trade for Cooks and then trade away one of them for a RB or edge guy? Maybe that's dumb but I'm just trying to make sense of the Cooks talk

 

[MachS]

Next I bet we inquire about bringing Woods back too

 

[XXXIVwin]

Is it possible teams may value Robinson or Van more than Cooks so we are going to trade for Cooks and then trade away one of them for a RB or edge guy? Maybe that's dumb but I'm just trying to make sense of the Cooks talk

It's really hard to make sense of the Cooks rumors. His concussion history is really bad. I'm happy for him that he's had good luck recently, but he is definitely a concussion risk.

 

[SeminoleRam]

Next I bet we inquire about bringing Woods back too

Kupp and Woods back together again?! Too good to be True!!

 

[Malibu]

Cooks has to be a misdirection of some sort I have no reason why they would want him. Not that he isn't good but he wr is the least area of need.

 

[Kupped]

Even if they get Chubb, it won't be him. He'd be a UFA bound for more money than the Rams have to give. So maybe they get the edge opposite Floyd with the Chubb comp pick or an earlier one. But of course the "we need to draft OL" crowd won't like that!!

I disagree. The AAV on Miller wasn’t the problem… it was the extra year at his age. Bad decision, imo.
And.. if Jackson turns out to be the answer at LT... there's going to be much less a need for draft capital for the Oline next year.

 

[Kupped]

Sadly the time to address this without killing the team is come and passed, our organization should have made some moves when they found out Von wasn't coming back or they should have matched the guaranteed years the Bills gave him. (3 instead of 2) since we gave him more per year. So we burned a 2nd and 3rd round pick trying to be cute with a NFL league premier pass rusher.

I hate to break the news to you but those 6th and 7th rounders aren't to valuable and the numbers back that up.
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What between 8-9 % stay with us? Do we have 10 6th or 7th rounders this next years so one works out for us?

Same goes with even starting in that rookie contract.

Stop.

Why I'd only give up minimal picks to someone like Chubb already in a contract year.

I'd stay pat and grab a pass rusher next draft or trade for one in the off season. It was a joke even thinking that Lewis/Hollins would suffice which I eluded to in May.

Nah.
From a team building perspective.. the big IF here is Alaric Jackson.
If he's a legit solid LT.. then trading a future first for Chubb isn't a problem.

Also.. the window is the window.. you gotta maximize the now and hope good fortune smiles upon you.. because your future first rounders aren't going to do anything for this time frame with Stafford and Donald.

 

[rdlkgliders]

I am not sure how I feel about Cooks. As our offense goes it feels like O.L help is #1 but that will come from in-house likely as there aren't a lot of trade options. I think #2 is a dynamic playmaker and that player can come from either the RB or WR position.
Some of the names I see at RB may be an improvement but beyond Kamara aren't dynamic now that CMC is officially the enemy.
Cooks would make our offense more dynamic but there are a lot of questions from cost to potential durability concerns.

Edge is a separate thing altogether, we are not imminently suffering at the edge on defense although if we make the playoffs that may change, but certainly we are suffering on Offense.
2 moves would be great 1 on each side of the ball.

 

[Kupped]

Do Rams fans overrate the value of draft picks? Or is it that they hate doing mocks that start on day 2 and 3 ?

For this year and this trade deadline I’m cool with no splash. There’s nobody out there available IMO who warrants moving a bunch of picks for.

I’d rather stay the course and remember that sustainability for 2023 and beyond is important too. We just won a title. Anyone else where I’m at on this?

If the idea is that we’re doomed once the big four are gone/retired then what’s the point? I’d like to think the Rams are better than that. Let’s be the Ravens, Steelers, Packers etc and stay relevant consistently.

Are the Steelers really relevant? When was the last time they mattered?
And.. believe it or not.. it's been a decade since the Ravens won a Super Bowl.

The chances of the Rams putting together another roster with something like a Donald, Stafford, Ramsey and Krupp anytime soon seems unlikely.. and holding back on deals this year because I'm worried about 2025 seems ill-advised.

I'd be fine with them trading a 24 first... if it's a young guy at a prime position.

 

[payote75]

You are very much hemorrhaging at the edge. I don't understand how some don't get that. It's worse than the o-line because the o-line was actually hurt the edge isn't.
2 sacks from AD Ramsey and Wagz where are the edges in there?

 

[Mojo Ram]

Are the Steelers really relevant? When was the last time they mattered?
And.. believe it or not.. it's been a decade since the Ravens won a Super Bowl.

For me at least, being a playoff team nearly every year for decades is relevancy.

Not bottoming out every 5 years also qualifies to me. Bottoming out meaning one of those 2, 3, 4 win seasons.

When a losing record rarely happens also qualifies. When a down year meant 8-8, 9-7

The Rams by my criteria have been relevant for the last 5 years and I’d say the same even if they hadn’t won the title.

 

[ReekofRams]

It’s not in McVay’s or Snead’s M.O. to just sit back and wait. They try every year to get to the Super Bowl and win it. And if that requires sacrificing some draft picks you know they’ll have no qualms of doing that.