GAME DAY TNF: Lions at Packers

[AvengerRam]

Goff succeeded here in LA but that was inspite of McVay not because of him. He retarded Goff's development as a QB and Jared told him so after the trade. Goff goes to the Super Bowl they lose because McVay was out coached. But Goff gets the blame. The next year McVay scraps the good OL in front of Goff and gives him a trash OL to play behind. Then McVay would not allow Goff to read defenses or change plays by holding him in the huddle until the last 15 seconds and then blamed Goff for the failures of the plays. He succeeded here despite McVay not because of him.

Reynolds got released which was the best thing for him. He needed motivation and a compatible system. McVay's system is very challenging for a WR and not all can thrive in it. McVay's system gives the WR multiple options depending upon how it's defended. The WR and QB must read it the same way. It's why Atwell took so long to blossom. Jefferson is going to be another Reynolds. He's had success here but when he leaves he will blossom if he plays in a more conventional system and has a decent QB. People trashed Reynolds here and rightly so. But last night we saw why he was originally signed. People point to Jefferson's drops but ignore Stafford's flat out missing him at times. So I guess Stafford is trash by that metic? During the Super Bowl Jefferson was wide open in the end zone for what would have been the winning TD but Stafford flatout missed him on the throw. It happens for both WR and QB.

We saw the importance of scheme fit for both QB and WR on display last night. It wouldn't surprise me if Akers had more success elsewhere as well. As we have seen Williams' lack of hands as a receiver has cost the Rams dearly in two games. Time to sit him and play Evans and Freeman IMO. That isn't to condemn Williams as "trash" but to recognize he does have his limitations in this scheme.

McVay regarded Goff’s development?

That’s a new one.

 

[RamsSince1969]

So nice to see the Packers lose to the Lions, especially at home. Now, if only the Bears can steal a game this season! Makes my mouth water just thinking about it.

 

[thirteen28]

McVay regarded Goff’s development?

That’s a new one.

He did great with his development for a couple of years, but then he ran into a wall with it, and I think a lot of it was his own doing by trying to effectively force a square peg into a round hole and failing to play to Goff's strengths.

I hope he's able to see that given Goff's rebound in Detroit under an OC that does play to Jared's strengths. Eventually, McVay is going to have to develop another QB, and he can't count on having an elite guy like Stafford available for trade to bail him out when his next guy struggles, as is almost a certainty with any QB.

I shudder to think where this franchise would be if Stafford hadn't been available after the 2020 season or if someone else had gotten him first.

 

[snackdaddy]

Goff is a good quarterback. He can win games for you. But if you need that quarterback who can rise up in the clutch, he's not one I would have a lot of confidence in.

 

[thirteen28]

Goff is a good quarterback. He can win games for you. But if you need that quarterback who can rise up in the clutch, he's not one I would have a lot of confidence in.

He' s definitely not as good as Stafford in the clutch, although he did have some games for the Rams where he came through (the KC MNF barnburner, NFCC at NO). It's more hit or miss with him though, and I don't know if he could have will the Rams to the winning TD in the Super Bowl the way Stafford did.

 

[OldSchool]

It took Puka 1 game to have chemistry with Stafford. Are you saying Van hasn't had enough time to develop chemistry with Stafford to get a fair evaluation of his play?

I'm pretty sure I said I want more from Van but go ahead and ignore that part.

 

[LouisvilleRam]

I'm pretty sure I said I want more from Van but go ahead and ignore that part.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

He' s definitely not as good as Stafford in the clutch, although he did have some games for the Rams where he came through (the KC MNF barnburner, NFCC at NO). It's more hit or miss with him though, and I don't know if he could have will the Rams to the winning TD in the Super Bowl the way Stafford did.

Goff is a relatively young player on an upward trajectory; Staff has plateaued for a while.

HOF greatness level plateau, BUT STILL

 

[Tano]

He' s definitely not as good as Stafford in the clutch, although he did have some games for the Rams where he came through (the KC MNF barnburner, NFCC at NO). It's more hit or miss with him though, and I don't know if he could have will the Rams to the winning TD in the Super Bowl the way Stafford did.

I have been saying quite awhile

Goff is not a Tier 1 QB who can rise to the occasion when his teammates are falling short but give him time and he is deadly.

I would put him in the Tier 2 QB category.

And I think a Tier 2 category QB can win a super bowl with the right team around him and Detroit just might have the right team around him.

 

[FarNorth]

This just in......

Goff is really good
Josh Reynolds is a legit #3 WR
Van Jefferson is the root of all our problems.

Detroit receivers (such as Reynolds, Amon Ra St. Brown, and now rookie TE Sam LaPorta) benefit greatly from Goff's pinpoint accuracy. Goff is consistently putting the ball into very narrow windows on the fingertips of his receivers. It's based on his rapport with the WRs and knowing, with confidence, exactly where they will be.

It's the same with Stafford and Kupp and now Puka. Very hard to stop when an accurate QB and technically accomplished WRs are both on the same page and on top of their game.

Jefferson has talent but for whatever reason his rapport with the QB seems not as consistent (at least to me.)

 

[Iron Lion]

That was quite a whoopin'. I hope y'all had as much fun as I did.

 

[So Ram]

Goff succeeded here in LA but that was inspite of McVay not because of him. He retarded Goff's development as a QB and Jared told him so after the trade. Goff goes to the Super Bowl they lose because McVay was out coached. But Goff gets the blame. The next year McVay scraps the good OL in front of Goff and gives him a trash OL to play behind. Then McVay would not allow Goff to read defenses or change plays by holding him in the huddle until the last 15 seconds and then blamed Goff for the failures of the plays. He succeeded here despite McVay not because of him.

Reynolds got released which was the best thing for him. He needed motivation and a compatible system. McVay's system is very challenging for a WR and not all can thrive in it. McVay's system gives the WR multiple options depending upon how it's defended. The WR and QB must read it the same way. It's why Atwell took so long to blossom. Jefferson is going to be another Reynolds. He's had success here but when he leaves he will blossom if he plays in a more conventional system and has a decent QB. People trashed Reynolds here and rightly so. But last night we saw why he was originally signed. People point to Jefferson's drops but ignore Stafford's flat out missing him at times. So I guess Stafford is trash by that metic? During the Super Bowl Jefferson was wide open in the end zone for what would have been the winning TD but Stafford flatout missed him on the throw. It happens for both WR and QB.

We saw the importance of scheme fit for both QB and WR on display last night. It wouldn't surprise me if Akers had more success elsewhere as well. As we have seen Williams' lack of hands as a receiver has cost the Rams dearly in two games. Time to sit him and play Evans and Freeman IMO. That isn't to condemn Williams as "trash" but to recognize he does have his limitations in this scheme.

WOW - your so off.

See it your way . Of the Tiants cut him then he failed in another system as well.He was better as a Ram than Van Jefferson .

-Don’t see how Cam Akers doesn’t succeed with the Vikings.I’ve said he will gain 1,000 yards this season.

Anyways - I’m a RAMS FAN - not going to get into any DRAMA & negative & KNOW it all attitude.

Zach Evans really has to prove himself.The question I’d ask instead of cherry picking of who is the better fit & will have the most yards in 2023. Evans or Freeman ?

That said - Ronnie Rivers is going to breakout as The Rams 2nd RB & we can check back on the outcome.

Go Rams !!

 

[RamDino]

It always comes down to the line... if Goff gets time, he can carve up a defense.

 

[OldSchool]

It's funny people comparing a 7 year pro who's been with the same QB for 6 of those years, all but like 5 games really, to a guy in his 4th year missed time in one of them. I'm wanting more from Van just like everybody else, mainly consistency for me, but there are some comparisons that just make absolute zero sense. Especially since we cut Josh.

Might I suggest the following up to you of course but they seem to work for some.

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