GAME DAY TNF: Lions at Chiefs - Week 1

[Loyal]

Dang it Merlin, I told you about Jahmyr Gibbs! We should have moved up!
@Merlin

 

[SWAdude]

"If the ball hits your hands... you HAVE to catch it. Dropping a football that hits your hands is 100% your fault."

Agree about Mahomes short arming throws.

I had a coach in Jr High that said "if you touch it, you can catch it."

My game improved with that mindset.

 

[RamFan503]

Jac Collinsworth

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Does the pre-game show, with about a dozen other unnecessary/useless people.

Nepotism at its best.

Wonder if he goes after teenage girls like his pops.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Reid’s decision to go on 4th and a mile with 3 timeouts plus the 2 min warning in his pocket was mind numbing. If it was 4th and short? Sure. Maybe.

 

[RamFan503]

My coaches and my son's coaches pretty much had the same exact message about this and it is permanently etched into my brain...

"If the ball hits your hands... you HAVE to catch it. Dropping a football that hits your hands is 100% your fault."

There are proper techniques for your hands when catching that are very important, but the most important part of catching a football is your eyes. All catches have different degrees of difficulty... but it all comes down to watching the ball throughout the entire catching process.

A great way to SEE this as a real truth is to read about how Larry Fitzgerald learned to catch the ball so well. As I remember it, his dad was/is an eye doctor and he made Larry learn to use his eyes in a scientific way to insure he didn't drop any footballs. Larry swears by it to this day and he is literally living proof of it working.

Hand techniques are important too... but you have to use those with great coordination with your eyes.

So my boys and I have always screamed at each other with complete belief - "If the ball hits your hands... it's on you if you don't catch it."

QBs don't have perfect lanes to throw every pass. Some can adjust their throwing motions in almost unbelievable ways to throw the ball and hit your hands. If he manages to do that, it's your fault if you drop the ball. That's the rule WRs are taught and the good/great ones live by it and believe it. Nobody catches every pass... but it's rare to see the great ones drop a ball that hits their hands... hell, these days some of the best won't drop a ball that hits just one of their hands.

Those balls that that clown dropped last night were all 100% his fault. That's exactly how I SEE it.

Truth is... that's why many of the fastest and most athletic guys are forced to play defense. Their hand eye coordination sucks... and they can't catch for shit. They can defend though. Just remember that the next time you see a DB or Safety drop a sure interception when the ball hits him in his hands. If you listen carefully when you watch one of those plays happen... you'll hear me screaming way off in the distance - "That's why he plays defense!".

Hey! But that doesn't fit my narrative!

 

[Allen2McVay]

Wonder if he goes after teenage girls like his pops.

Jac was hired by NBC to be a production assistant as a Freshman at Notre Dame ... a fucking Freshman!

He was a sideline reporter on NBC as a Junior. That year, he also worked for NBC at the Olympics.

Yeah, he paid his dues.

 

[FarNorth]

Who? I know I'm going to be sorry for asking.

I'm sorry you asked too. Another Collinsworth.... one was too much already.

 

[FarNorth]

My coaches and my son's coaches pretty much had the same exact message about this and it is permanently etched into my brain...

"If the ball hits your hands... you HAVE to catch it. Dropping a football that hits your hands is 100% your fault."

There are proper techniques for your hands when catching that are very important, but the most important part of catching a football is your eyes. All catches have different degrees of difficulty... but it all comes down to watching the ball throughout the entire catching process.

A great way to SEE this as a real truth is to read about how Larry Fitzgerald learned to catch the ball so well. As I remember it, his dad was/is an eye doctor and he made Larry learn to use his eyes in a scientific way to insure he didn't drop any footballs. Larry swears by it to this day and he is literally living proof of it working.

Hand techniques are important too... but you have to use those with great coordination with your eyes.

So my boys and I have always screamed at each other with complete belief - "If the ball hits your hands... it's on you if you don't catch it."

QBs don't have perfect lanes to throw every pass. Some can adjust their throwing motions in almost unbelievable ways to throw the ball and hit your hands. If he manages to do that, it's your fault if you drop the ball. That's the rule WRs are taught and the good/great ones live by it and believe it. Nobody catches every pass... but it's rare to see the great ones drop a ball that hits their hands... hell, these days some of the best won't drop a ball that hits just one of their hands.

Those balls that that clown dropped last night were all 100% his fault. That's exactly how I SEE it.

Truth is... that's why many of the fastest and most athletic guys are forced to play defense. Their hand eye coordination sucks... and they can't catch for shit. They can defend though. Just remember that the next time you see a DB or Safety drop a sure interception when the ball hits him in his hands. If you listen carefully when you watch one of those plays happen... you'll hear me screaming way off in the distance - "That's why he plays defense!".

Agree with this but.... imo there were other factors at play too. The first was the Deroit D.

Aidan Hutchinson was putting incredible pressure on Mahomes on almost every passing play. The dude is a monster pass rusher who played an awesome game, despite the refs refusing to enforce the formation rules or call false starts. He forced Mahomes and the offense to scramble on a huge number of plays.

And, though the scrambling puts a lot of pressure on the defense, Detroit's secondary overall did a great job. Gave up the TD at the end of the first half but held the line the second half. This secondary was brilliantly rebuilt by Brad Holmes adding Cam Sutton, CJ Gardner Johnson, and Brian Branch, not to mention Emmanuel Moseley from SF who hasn't even played yet.

Mahomes can make off schedule plays better than anyone but as someone pointed out he can't always get the best angles or put balls on a receiver's fingertips when doing so. And the scramble game is a different game for the receivers, especially relatively inexperienced ones, when they don't know what the QB is doing, whether the ball is coming to them, when to look for it, or how or where it may arrive. Not the same as running a crisp route with the ball arriving on time at the break as planned. Kelce and Mahomes have had years of practice at this, but the young KC receivers haven't.

In sum I would give the D, especially Hutchinson, the credit for forcing Mahomes off schedule.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Reid’s decision to go on 4th and a mile with 3 timeouts plus the 2 min warning in his pocket was mind numbing. If it was 4th and short? Sure. Maybe.

That surprised me too.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Reid’s decision to go on 4th and a mile with 3 timeouts plus the 2 min warning in his pocket was mind numbing. If it was 4th and short? Sure. Maybe.

He knew exactly what would happen if he gave the Lions offense the ball back. And it happened exactly as he thought it would.

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[FarNorth]

How much money would it cost to get this man back in Southern California?
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Detroit rookies all looked stellar. Branch with the pick 6, Campbell an amazing pass breakup, LaPorta multiple catches and blocks, and Gibbs-- just watch out for this dude. Sky's the limit.

Also still my opinion that Holmes ate our lunch by moving up at the last minute to get the pick ahead of the Rams to draft Hendon Hooker. What a coup for Detroit! In three years Bennett will be a career backup, if he's still in the league, and Hooker will be a really good starting qb for some NFL team. (Probably not Detroit.)

 

[CGI_Ram]

He knew exactly what would happen if he gave the Lions offense the ball back. And it happened exactly as he thought it would.

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And I don’t blame him for putting it in Mahommes hands.

I can’t help but wonder if Campbell’s ballsy fake in the 1st quarter made him match the aggression in this moment.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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Mahommes doesn't pull the trigger on wide open wr for a td then overthrows another one.



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[Merlin]

In sum I would give the D, especially Hutchinson, the credit for forcing Mahomes off schedule.

It never ceases to amaze me how much a great edge can influence a game. I don't think Hutch is great yet but yeah he's on his way. And it's a good thing too as that defense is probably still suspect.

Lions and Vikes gonna duke it out this year in that division should be fun. Think it's there for the Lions if their defense holds up.

 

[Corbin]

Who would have thought Mahomes didn’t play as well without a HOF TE?

 

[Giles]

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Mahommes doesn't pull the trigger on wide open wr for a td then overthrows another one.



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But...but Goff is trash for not seeing a wide open st brown with a unblocked Blitzer barreling down on him, and that's exactly why the rams got rid of him.