This is far from a remodel.

[Malibu]

You know how I can legitimately call him a liar is because Snead knew the compensation for Ramsey was pitiful but he still made the deal. If this was a remodel we would have kept Ramsey, Floyd and Wagner, not asked Robinson to seek a trade and have rumors out there that Stafford is on the block (Snead denies) where there is smoke there is fire.

If we got an absolute killer deal for a top 2 at his position in the league maybe we all would get it but this is a full blown rebuild what a fucking liar. This deal is an embarrassment to the organization just like his resigning of Goff after 3 years only to dump him a year later after watching every practice and game and zero need to resign him after year 3 especially if there were any reservations. Feels like this GM doesn't have the business acumen to be in charge of this franchise too many stupid mistakes.

MISTAKES - The Gurley resigning, the Goff new deal after 3 years, Goff/Stafford trade was really steep, signing Wagner for 5 years and let's him go, getting nothing for Floyd and taking Tutu, Jefferson in the 2nd round when there were way better players with much huger needs available etc.

I have been a big supporter of him but all these cumulative mistakes are too hard to not forgive and this was the straw that broke the camels back.

No amount of spin is going to save he or McVay on this trade. Miami gave Denver a 1st, 4th in 2024 and Chase Edmunds we got a mid 3rd rounder and TE that literally has 1 catch for 8 yards in the NFL in 2 years this is unacceptable period. Ramsey is a top 2 CB, Chubb is a top 15 maybe OLB not Joey or Nick Bosa, TJ Watt, Myles Garrett etc.

 

[OldSchool]

 

[AvengerRam]

Settle down, Beavis!

 

[Corbin]

Literally IDK how you guys do not know things were eventually come to an end. The Math didnt add up with our formula.

In January and early February I stated this was our obvious direction, made a mock trading AD and Ramsey. Got riddiculed and laughed at, and now? Obviously it was an unsustainable system, just like a Ponzi scheme, eventually its going to pop.

I will admit, i was surprised by Wagners release as i was his signing.


Some of you said “ last year was a mulligan…” , well be prepared for a shit show 2023 to prepare for the 2024 season boys.


This is the price for the method we used overpaying and drafting players like Tutu Atwell instead of Creed Humphrey, take a whiff of the whirlwind gentlemen.

 

[XXXIVwin]

IMHO the credit card bill is coming due. That's all. Can't push cap $ into the future forever.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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will stan be saying "snead is our gm right now" after a 4 and 13 season?

we know the morris d will not win the rams a single game, just try to minimise the damage.

oline can't be trusted so the offense will stink again. stafford will once again look only for kupp.

mcvay

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[El Chapo Jr]

IMHO the credit card bill is coming due. That's all. Can't push cap $ into the future forever.

You can if you are the Saints!

 

[Merlin]

 

[Loyal]

 

[SuperMan28]

Well, if he drafts a HOF player with that third rounder you'll feel differently.

 

[Steve808]

You know how I can legitimately call him a liar is because Snead knew the compensation for Ramsey was pitiful but he still made the deal. If this was a remodel we would have kept Ramsey, Floyd and Wagner, not asked Robinson to seek a trade and have rumors out there that Stafford is on the block (Snead denies) where there is smoke there is fire.

If we got an absolute killer deal for a top 2 at his position in the league maybe we all would get it but this is a full blown rebuild what a fucking liar. This deal is an embarrassment to the organization just like his resigning of Goff after 3 years only to dump him a year later after watching every practice and game and zero need to resign him after year 3 especially if there were any reservations. Feels like this GM doesn't have the business acumen to be in charge of this franchise too many stupid mistakes.

MISTAKES - The Gurley resigning, the Goff new deal after 3 years, Goff/Stafford trade was really steep, signing Wagner for 5 years and let's him go, getting nothing for Floyd and taking Tutu, Jefferson in the 2nd round when there were way better players with much huger needs available etc.

I have been a big supporter of him but all these cumulative mistakes are too hard to not forgive and this was the straw that broke the camels back.

No amount of spin is going to save he or McVay on this trade. Miami gave Denver a 1st, 4th in 2024 and Chase Edmunds we got a mid 3rd rounder and TE that literally has 1 catch for 8 yards in the NFL in 2 years this is unacceptable period. Ramsey is a top 2 CB, Chubb is a top 15 maybe OLB not Joey or Nick Bosa, TJ Watt, Myles Garrett etc.

I'd still take it with McVay as coach. It's not like we have Lombardis to spare lying around. SB 56 was special to me as a fan from 1969. All those years the LA Rams were considered a powerhouse for many years with no title. Also, the Rams now have 2 championships (not including 1 from the pre super bowl era). If McVay stays as he said he would, I can see another title in the future, although 2023 might not have the Rams as the favorite to win it all.

 

[oldnotdead]

Some people don't know when they have a good thing. The grass is greener syndrome is apparently rampant here. Always wanting to trade away talent thinking more picks are better. Picks simply mean you get the throw the dice more. It guarantees nothing at all. With a vet player you pretty know what you are getting. It takes too long to build from the draft only. By the time you complete your team the earlier drafted guys are either in contract years or are gone. No GM drafts that good.

The Rams went all in to get a Lombardi. What part of all in do people not understand? So now you strip away the excess and go back to your core players. This team has a good core of players if used correctly.

It looks like Tampa will sign Baker, which is good for him. This would change the Ram draft dynamic. I can see them drafting Clayton Tune either with their second 3rd round pick or hope they can get him or another decent prospect to play QB2 in the 5th round. They need better than UDFA QBs given Stafford's health issues. Also the reality of exactly how many years he can hold up. Do they really want to pay him all that guaranteed money in 2024? Hoping he will hold up 3 more years looks like a bad bet. I'm saying that if Tanner McKee drops to them at 36 they need to grab him. Allow him to develop behind Stafford knowing they have a QB coming up behind Stafford. Then play Stafford as long as they can.

The problem with the retread vet backup QBs is that there are reasons they aren't starters. It's one thing to have one or two year rentals on RBs, WRs or even edges, and a completely different thing when you are talking QB, because the money is too big. I love Stafford as a Ram but this whole thing about releasing and trading players is because they gave away the farm for an aging QB who is now coming off double injuries. This would be what my dad would call life lessons. Either learn from it or forever repeat the error.

As long as Stafford stays healthy all is well and good. But that is exactly the problem isn't it.

 

[Tano]

In January and early February I stated this was our obvious direction, made a mock trading AD and Ramsey. Got riddiculed and laughed at, and now? Obviously it was an unsustainable system, just like a Ponzi scheme, eventually its going to pop.

I was pretty sure that Ramsey was going to get traded but I thought our compensation would be close to what you did in your mock.

The trade was nothing like what you got.

This is basically - here take Ramsey so we can get his salary off the books for 2024.

This year is looking more and more like a bye year to me.

I will watch the Rams early in the season but if they play the way I expect them to, I will have the game on in the background while I do other stuff around the house.

 

[den-the-coach]

 

[Loyal]

Well, the *uck them Picks Era is over.

We are back to the time in the early 2000's when draft gurus and amateur GM's reached nirvana over their personal draft boards. We have lots of third rounders this draft and next year? Gasp,,, A FIRST ROUNDER! My goodness, the trade downs envisioned by the gurus next year will be measured by the number of losses this season. Relax friends, Happy Days Are Here Again.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqsT4xnKZPg&list=RDgqsT4xnKZPg&start_radio=1

 

[PARAM]

Yeah, Snead sucks. 7 straight years without a first round draft pick and without a 2nd round pick in 3 of them. 5 winning seasons, 4 postseason berths, 2 SB appearances and a Lombardi.....plus year 7 yet to playout.

Then prior to year 7 they had to cut a 33 yr old ILB (clearly on the downslope), a 31 yr old OLB (criticized for his inability to rush the passer), a 29 yr old CB (accused of decline) and 7 guys who never saw the field to get under the 2023 cap. In doing so, they also are currently 50 mil under the 2024 cap.

What a moron and a liar!!! Shit makes me miss Jay Zymunt and Jeff Fisher!!!!

 

[Loyal]

Yeah, Snead sucks. 7 straight years without a first round draft pick and without a 2nd round pick in 3 of them. 5 winning seasons, 4 postseason berths, 2 SB appearances and a Lombardi.....plus year 7 yet to playout.

Then prior to year 7 they had to cut a 33 yr old ILB (clearly on the downslope), a 31 yr old OLB (criticized for his inability to rush the passer), a 29 yr old CB (accused of decline) and 7 guys who never saw the field to get under the 2023 cap. In doing so, they also are currently 50 mil under the 2024 cap.

What a moron and a liar!!! Shit makes me miss Jay Zymunt and Jeff Fisher!!!!

and Shaw...

 

[Tano]

and Shaw...

Georgia and Shaw were the best

Let's get rid of Reynolds, Brudzinski, Greene - they are no good any longer

Oh and lets go after Pastorini, Jones, Bartkowski - woo they are still good yeah!!! Oh and Brock - he is handsome so he has got to be good - woooooo

 

[Malibu]

IMHO the credit card bill is coming due. That's all. Can't push cap $ into the future forever.

Fine be honest with the faithful be straight with us don't lie and say this is a remodel when it is a full blown tear down and rebuild. Snead was emphatic this was a remodel. Remodel to me is getting rid of some expensive pieces they the management feels underperformed and replace them with other pieces that may cost less but have upside think Corbett as an example.

 

[1maGoh]

You can if you are the Saints!

Yeah, but uhhhhhhh... don't the saints suck? And they sucked the year before. And they aren't getting better.