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Steve808 said:
Whiner fans believe championships only occurred when the whiners were relevant. And my guess is many whiner fans weren't even around when they won their last super bowl. It's like Jets fans still celebrating their one super bowl n 1967. It's valid, but how often do you think about it and enjoy it?
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To give it an odd twist, the Jets having won just once may be more special than the niners winning 5 times from 1981 to 1994. That one singular win is special to Jet fans, as it should be. Hell, the Steelers won 4 in 6 years, Washington 3 in 10 years, the Raiders three in 8 years during that era. So niner fans can blow their collective horns about 5 Championships that all occurred previous to the salary cap and free agency. Very good boys!!! You were really something special when players didn't have the ability to move from team to team and your payroll could exceed any amount!! You even had the biggest cheater (Carmen Policy) when the cap was first implemented.
 
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PARAM said:
To give it an odd twist, the Jets having won just once may be more special than the niners winning 5 times from 1981 to 1994. That one singular win is special to Jet fans, as it should be. Hell, the Steelers won 4 in 6 years, Washington 3 in 10 years, the Raiders three in 8 years during that era. So niner fans can blow their collective horns about 5 Championships that all occurred previous to the salary cap and free agency. Very good boys!!! You were really something special when players didn't have the ability to move from team to team and your payroll could exceed any amount!! You even had the biggest cheater (Carmen Policy) when the cap was first implemented.
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I’ve never made those connections before. Great points.
 
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Rams head coaches (in my lifetime) vs San Francisco

George Allen (6-3-1) Great regular seasons. Couldn't win in the postseason
Tommy Prothro (4-0) Talented roster, not a talented head coach...10-12-2 vs the rest of the NFL
Chuck Knox I (8-2) Great regular seasons. Couldn't win in the postseason

Ray Malavasi (7-3) Couldn't win the big game....but thanks for 1979

J. Robinson (6-12; 0-1) Couldn't win the 2nd biggest game....but thanks for 1989
C. Knox II (0-6) The game had passed him by
Rich Brooks (0-4) Superbowl DC; not a good NFL head coach

Dick Vermeil (2-4) It was said the game had passed him by but he proved it hadn't.

Mad Mike (8-4) He was the biggest reason for 99 and everything that followed....00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05.
Scott Linehan (2-4) Decent OC
Spagnuolo (1-5) Excellent DC
Jeff Fisher (3-6-1) What exactly did he do to survive 22 years as a HC? 22 years and only 8 games over .500, 7 if you count postseason.

Sean McVay (7-11; 1-0) Finally everything all at once. A little bit of Martz, a little bit of Vermeil, a little bit of George Allen. A LOT more success than any of them.

McVay doesn't have a winning record vs SF but he's 1-0 vs SF, when it counts the most.....in the postseason. And he's 94-52 vs everybody else. Not only that, he's 10-6 overall in the postseason, so he can win, period. Maybe he gets to .500 vs San Francisco over the next 2 years and another postseason win or two over them? But that's not as important as another Lombardi (or two).
 
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If Washington is really interested in Aiyuk they should give him an incentive laden prove it one year deal. And maybe require he get some mental health counseling.
 
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PARAM said:
Rams head coaches (in my lifetime) vs San Francisco

McVay doesn't have a winning record vs SF but he's 1-0 vs SF, when it counts the most.....in the postseason. And he's 94-52 vs everybody else. Not only that, he's 10-6 overall in the postseason, so he can win, period. Maybe he gets to .500 vs San Francisco over the next 2 years and another postseason win or two over them? But that's not as important as another Lombardi (or two).
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Just my observation and I might be wrong. But it seems like McVay treats the whiners like another team (even if NFC West games are important) but rat boy prepares the whiners as if they're in the super bowl when they play the Rams. I believe it's because the Rams took McVay over rat boy and I have no regrets about that.
 
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Some of that head to head success could be because Shanny jr has had Salah, Ryans, Wilkes as DC’s. It’s been our offense vs SF that has looked stymied more often than not in those games over the years.

Shanny goes into the gameplan meeting and slaps down a “study this” blueprint in front of his DC’s and they’ve delivered.

Our DC’s have been decent to good but they aren’t Ryans and Salah good. Just sayin.
 
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Just my observation and I might be wrong. But it seems like McVay treats the whiners like another team (even if NFC West games are important) but rat boy prepares the whiners as if they're in the super bowl when they play the Rams. I believe it's because the Rams took McVay over rat boy and I have no regrets about that.
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I believe there’s something to that. The 9ers appear less prepared vs worse teams, but they always come ready when it’s the Rams—as it should be.

Most teams used to have A plan for AD99, but I saw a SEVERAL ways the 9ers would deal with him. They mixed in different tactics to keep him off balance.

Now that McVay has a ring and shanny doesn’t…it must really eat at him.
 
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Steve808 said:
Just my observation and I might be wrong. But it seems like McVay treats the whiners like another team (even if NFC West games are important) but rat boy prepares the whiners as if they're in the super bowl when they play the Rams. I believe it's because the Rams took McVay over rat boy and I have no regrets about that.
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...and it's not like McVay was hired and SF hired Shanahan a week later. After the Rams hired McVay, it took the better part of a month (25 days) before Shanahan was hired. To Shanahan, that must be like saying "McVay is clearly a better bet"!

The San Francisco 49ers officially interviewed Sean McVay for their head coaching position on January 9, 2017. At the time, McVay was serving as the offensive coordinator for the Washington Redskins.
The 49ers interviewed McVay during a cross-country tour by CEO Jed York to find replacements for Chip Kelly. McVay reportedly "crushed" the interview, and the team even informed him that they were strongly considering hiring him, Kyle Shanahan, or Josh McDaniels.
The 49ers ultimately hired Kyle Shanahan as their head coach, while McVay was hired by the Los Angeles Rams, sparking a major NFC West rivalry
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McVay was hired on January 12th while Shanahan was hired on February 6th. Must have been agony wondering for 3 weeks plus if he had a HC job.
 
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...and it's not like McVay was hired and SF hired Shanahan a week later. After the Rams hired McVay, it took the better part of a month (25 days) before Shanahan was hired. To Shanahan, that must be like saying "McVay is clearly a better bet"!


McVay was hired on January 12th while Shanahan was hired on February 6th.
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That's because they had to wait until after the superbowl.

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That's because they had to wait until after the superbowl.
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Yes but they had an interview scheduled prior to the Super Bowl.The 49ers and Rams were both in need of new coaches after the 2016 season.
San Francisco was an abysmal 2-14 that year and in need of a complete organizational overhaul. Los Angeles was in perhaps a tougher boat since they went 4-12 after selecting quarterback Jared Goff first overall in that year's draft.Both clubs found coaches who have had a ton of success, but there's a universe where the Rams are the ones that wind up with Kyle Shanahan. Things may very well have turned out that way if not for some wild weather on the East Coast. general manager Les Snead said on 'The Playcallers,' a podcast from the Athletic's Jourdan Rodrigue, that a snow storm grounded team brass and kept them from getting to their interview with Shanahan, who was then the offensive coordinator for the Super Bowl-bound Falcons.

"We couldn't get there," Snead told Rodrigue. "We did ask Kyle, 'hey would you like to FaceTime?' He didn't really want to do that. So at that point in time we passed on the interview. That weather event and whatever occurred because of it, it definitely changed the course of the NFC West."

The 49ers had strong interest in McVay during that hiring cycle and had a long interview with him. There aren't that many deviations in the present timeline necessary to reach a world where the 49ers and Rams wound up swapped coaches with McVay joining San Francisco and Shanahan heading to LA.

How things would've worked out in that scenario is impossible to know. The two teams were in such different places at that point, and with McVay in the Bay Area it's likely John Lynch wouldn't have wound up in the front office – and the list could go on from there.

For now the 49ers are in a good spot with Super Bowl hopes on their mind for the fourth time in five years. And while they don't have a Super Bowl trophy, it's hard to imagine they regret how things played out.
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That "for now" was prior to the 2023 season. So they've had Super Bowl Championship hopes for another 4 years with no luck. But they have their Super Bowl twice a year vs LA.
 
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