The Aaron Rodgers Saga

[Elmgrovegnome]

Tough situation for Rodgers. The draft has passed 5 teams in the first round chose QBs so the pool of suitors are less.

I don't agree players should have a say in personnel because once one does than others will opening the floodgates to problems. Yet it should be understood the goal of the team is to get better so management should be in the same mindset as Rodgers if he had a say.

Rodgers wants the GM fired that is seriously severe. My thoughts on that is last year they made it to the championship game so why fire the GM? Also why would you want to leave, most of the options to me seem way inferior to GB plus he has to learn a new playbook, gel with new teammates and bond with the HC.

I am not saying he should stay but why go to an inferior team just bc you don't like the GM?

He also has to realize that drafting later in each round means teams often have to go BPA to get the most out of the draft. They cannot pick and choose like they are in the top ten. Why take a receiver rated lower than a corner or offensive lineman.

 

[Malibu]

He has the right to be pissed ---- they drafted his replacement when he still looks to be in prime shape.

You can dislike the guy for whatever reason... but he isn't wrong for feeling slighted.

I do agree here that was a rookie move. Especially not to tell him. I get drafting a backup but a replacement when he is a first ballot HOFer is bad management. I heard that the GM prior to the 2020 season felt Rodgers skills were declining that is why I think they decided to draft Love.

 

[dieterbrock]

-Green Bay has passed up WR for defensive players for the last 10 years
-They get rid of a coach who has a 1980 playbook and bring in a failed OC who sets the offense back
-They draft a QB of all things after trading up
-After he threatens to leave they open up the playbook and he has his best season in years and tell him he'll be involved
-They claim to put Love on trade market, but then dont pull trigger on trade
-They cut a WR who Rodgers wanted to stick around
-They draft DB in 1st round for the 5th time in 8 years
And somehow Rodgers is the bad guy for being pissed?
Brady dictated the moves in Tampa, Peyton dictated the moves in Denver, you build around your franchise.
Its a clown show in Green Bay, I cant wait to see that franchise fall apart

 

[Dodgersrf]

It will be Denver or Las Vegas, Denver seems like a natural fit and if that trade goes down, you will have Rodgers, Mahomes & Justin Herbert all in the same division.

I like Carr as well. He takes a lot of heat, but the Raiders are a Circus.

Herbert already looks like a seasoned QB. The guy is excellent. To think he will only get better.

It's a fun division to watch play. Adding Rodgers to Denver, would be great for the NFL and fans.

 

[Dodgersrf]

-Green Bay has passed up WR for defensive players for the last 10 years
-They get rid of a coach who has a 1980 playbook and bring in a failed OC who sets the offense back
-They draft a QB of all things after trading up
-After he threatens to leave they open up the playbook and he has his best season in years and tell him he'll be involved
-They claim to put Love on trade market, but then dont pull trigger on trade
-They cut a WR who Rodgers wanted to stick around
-They draft DB in 1st round for the 5th time in 8 years
And somehow Rodgers is the bad guy for being pissed?
Brady dictated the moves in Tampa, Peyton dictated the moves in Denver, you build around your franchise.
Its a clown show in Green Bay, I cant wait to see that franchise fall apart

I agree with all of this.
However. It's not as though Rodgers has nothing to work with.

As @Elmgrovegnome pointed our. He has a top WR in Adam's, a solid run game and possibly the best oline in the NFL.
They also got rid of McCarthy and now include Rogers in the playbook and gameplan.

They should bring in more on the pass catching side, but It's not all bad for Rodgers.

 

[dieterbrock]

The Motto in Denver should be, "We cant find a QB of our own, so we'll take somebody else's!!"

???????????

 

[dieterbrock]

I agree with all of this.
However. It's not as though Rodgers has nothing to work with.

As @Elmgrovegnome pointed our. He has a top WR in Adam's, a solid run game and possibly the best oline in the NFL.
They also got rid of McCarthy and now include Rogers in the playbook and gameplan.

They should bring in more on the pass catching side, but It's not all bad for Rodgers.

I dont know about all that, he makes his o-line look a heck of a lot better with his mobility and quick release. He has Davante Adams, but thats it. Outside of him the WR core is like the Rams Fisher/Spags era level. The TE sitch is comical yet he gets production out of them
He may be a prima donna, but at least he's earned it. Those stooges in Green Bay only have what they have because of him

 

[FarNorth]

I agree with all of this.
However. It's not as though Rodgers has nothing to work with.

As @Elmgrovegnome pointed our. He has a top WR in Adam's, a solid run game and possibly the best oline in the NFL.
They also got rid of McCarthy and now include Rogers in the playbook and gameplan.

They should bring in more on the pass catching side, but It's not all bad for Rodgers.

It's just not good enough to win a championship. Adams is very good but he's the only real playmaker.

The point is that, like TB with Brady, you make sure a HOF qb has the weapons. Because there is no football commodity as rare and difficult to find as a championship, HOF qb at the top of his game.

Especially one like Rodgers who can make ordinary receivers look like pro bowlers because of his ability to read the defense, move in the pocket, and make every throw with velocity and best ever accuracy. Brady isn't even in that conversation.

Same principle applies to Stafford and the Rams. (No, I'm not saying Stafford is as good as Rodgers, but he's a playmaker with a big arm.) It's not as though Stafford had nothing to work with... but if you really want to try to win the playoffs, get him a couple of serious deep threats.

McVay gets it. Packers GM doesn't.

If Rodgers had Chase Claypool imo they would have gone to the Super bowl. Big fast receiver who can really go up and get the ball (9 tds, 873 yards for Pittsburgh.) Basically a guaranteed big play target who cannot be defended when playing with a qb who can put the ball anywhere on a dime.

Having another playmaker would have made Rodgers unstoppable. Instead they picked Love to warm the bench until they pushed Rodgers out the door.

 

[Corbin]

-Green Bay has passed up WR for defensive players for the last 10 years
-They get rid of a coach who has a 1980 playbook and bring in a failed OC who sets the offense back
-They draft a QB of all things after trading up
-After he threatens to leave they open up the playbook and he has his best season in years and tell him he'll be involved
-They claim to put Love on trade market, but then dont pull trigger on trade
-They cut a WR who Rodgers wanted to stick around
-They draft DB in 1st round for the 5th time in 8 years
And somehow Rodgers is the bad guy for being pissed?
Brady dictated the moves in Tampa, Peyton dictated the moves in Denver, you build around your franchise.
Its a clown show in Green Bay, I cant wait to see that franchise fall apart

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I think the main thing that gets lost here is elite QB's make those around him a lot better than they actually are which is what makes them so great. This is why you let unique talents like this have a huge part in dictating what will help the organization be successful.

I'm hoping Stafford gets to that point uniting with our FO and coaching staff to unlock the next level he had no hope of achieving in Det.

 

[12intheBox]

I think AR is an exceptional talent. And yeah, last year's draft would have made me salty - but the Green Bay front office has done a pretty good job in the draft in general. Sure, they go defense in round 1, but they have found him all pros like Davante Adams and David Baktiari on day 2. They were in the NFC title game last year - its not like its Aaron and a bunch of nobodies.

 

[Jorgeh0605]

I think AR is an exceptional talent. And yeah, last year's draft would have made me salty - but the Green Bay front office has done a pretty good job in the draft in general. Sure, they go defense in round 1, but they have found him all pros like Davante Adams and David Baktiari on day 2. They were in the NFC title game last year - its not like its Aaron and a bunch of nobodies.

Right? Ain't no Matthew Stafford in Detroit situation.

 

[dieterbrock]

Right? Ain't no Matthew Stafford in Detroit situation.

Right!
Stafford had 2 stud WR and 1 stud TE.
Nothing like the crap in Green Bay

 

[dang]

When he does play well he’s all cocky about it. Which is funny in a way. You’d think he wins all the time. Instead he blames the management for not getting him better players.

Classic sore loser.

 

[PARAM]

Brady.....has had far, far less EVERY YEAR to work with than ARod; takes less money so the team can support him; has 6 rings (4 in the last 7 years); didn't notify the Bucs he wasn't coming back because they drafted Kyle Trask in the 2nd.

Rodgers.....wants to be the highest paid QB every year; bitches because Green Bay doesn't support him; has 1 ring (0 in the last 10 years); got his panties in a bunch because they drafted Jordan Love last year.

50 mil cap hit for 2019 and 2020 and in 2021, 37 mil (20% of the cap). Now tell me which guy wants to win more and which guy just wants more money?
Ah crap, what do I care? I can't stand either of them!!

 

[rams1fan]

I don't think the Packers drafting Love is the central motivation for Aaron wanting out. Sure he didn't like it and he may be using that as a prop but the real reason is L.A. There is a reason that he listed SF, Denver, and Vegas as the teams he wanted to play for. He wants an easy commute to LA for Jeopardy and his new actress fiancee. Plus he sees Matt Stafford ask for a trade and the Lions say sure. I think he is done in G.B.

 

[Merlin]

Rodgers has always been known to be an oversensitive prick of a dude. It's part of the reason why he slid in the draft. He's the best QB in the league but his personality and sensitivity have worked against him in his career IMO.

I just think he rubs people the wrong way. If he was more balanced in that way maybe his team would work with him to get him what he wants. They certainly wouldn't be trading up in the draft for a QB in round 1 if he was working well with the decision makers behind the scenes.

As to him leaving I wouldn't let him go anywhere. I'd call his bluff while trying to put the best team I could around him. Because the moment they move that dude they're probably a marginal playoff team at best. I'd rather have him retired and under my thumb than get some shitty picks that I miss on while I watch him rack up Super Bowl wins potentially somewhere else. People can tell me I'm petty and take the high road on that, but in this league that's some shit that will get you fired. It's some shit you'd never live down.

 

[OldSchool]

Did he tell them? So far I’ve yet to hear anything from him, just random reports.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I don't think the Packers drafting Love is the central motivation for Aaron wanting out. Sure he didn't like it and he may be using that as a prop but the real reason is L.A. There is a reason that he listed SF, Denver, and Vegas as the teams he wanted to play for. He wants an easy commute to LA for Jeopardy and his new actress fiancee. Plus he sees Matt Stafford ask for a trade and the Lions say sure. I think he is done in G.B.

You may be right. He could have been a Ram if so. I couldn’t think of any other reason to want to go to the Raiders right now. They are starting to look like a poorly run organization.

But Denver isn’t all that close. I don’t know how close LA is to SF

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Rodgers has always been known to be an oversensitive prick of a dude. It's part of the reason why he slid in the draft. He's the best QB in the league but his personality and sensitivity have worked against him in his career IMO.

I just think he rubs people the wrong way. If he was more balanced in that way maybe his team would work with him to get him what he wants. They certainly wouldn't be trading up in the draft for a QB in round 1 if he was working well with the decision makers behind the scenes.

As to him leaving I wouldn't let him go anywhere. I'd call his bluff while trying to put the best team I could around him. Because the moment they move that dude they're probably a marginal playoff team at best. I'd rather have him retired and under my thumb than get some shitty picks that I miss on while I watch him rack up Super Bowl wins potentially somewhere else. People can tell me I'm petty and take the high road on that, but in this league that's some shit that will get you fired. It's some shit you'd never live down.

I wonder if they saw him Push McCarthy out then he started being difficult for LaFleur.

Some paint it as being that drafting Love means they want him gone and Rodgers not getting a contract extension means the same thing. Drafting Love could have been just insurance in case he retired.

I agree with your point about it sucking if he goes and wins titles elsewhere, but it would not suck to be rid of his baggage.

I’d trade him to the Raiders. That’s the best of the three spots that he could land and be in the same situation. His honeymoon with Chuckie wouldn’t last long.

If I was a GM trying to acquire AR what assurances could I get that he could stay content or that he would not quit in two years because he’s been doing Jeopardy? Is it possible that would cause GMs to offer less than he’s worth on the field?

It seems everything had to be perfect for him. Can he get along with anyone? McVay? Shanahan?

Maybe when he found out the Rams inquired about him he got mad because the Packers gave a flat out no without consulting him?

 

[Merlin]

I do know Rodgers + Shanahan has the makings of the worst horror movie imaginable. So there's no way I'd trade him there.

Yeah it will be funny to see how long the "honeymoon" period lasts if he goes to Denver or Vegas.