Teams To Interview Raheem Morris For HC Vacancies

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I’ll gladly eat crow if wrong but I highly doubt anyone is taking him as HC.

If he’s as good and absolved of deficiencies as many say he is, he should be as good as gone with how well this D roster performed. 31 other teams will prove us naysayers wrong hopefully. I’ll gladly take the L if he’s gone next year.
 

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Many have said it. It seems to be true. Raheem's best asset is his culture building. Players love him. If he wants to be a HC then I will certainly root for him. He seems like a great guy and although he did win me over this year that he is a net positive - he did great with the assets given to him on defence this year - I'd much prefer two 3rd round comp picks. Given the job he did with the youngsters this year I'd be more than happy to keep him as well. See what he can do next year when we address that side of the ball in the off-season. Imagine if we drafted a legit 1st round OLBer to start in place of Hoecht? That alone would be monstrous for this defence, especially with how Morris seems to want to call it.
 

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Has anyone ever asked him about Hoecht in coverage? Has Jourdan on the Athletic ever written about it? It just seems so weird. Not that it happens necessarily, but the staggering frequency of it. He far and away was leading the league in drop backs for his position group last time I looked. Players that are legitimately very good in coverage on other teams drop back way, way less.
Seems like teams have been taking advantage of that in scheme all season long. Not sure to all the hows and whys of teams getting him in some of these isolations where he has no chance, but I presume it is related schematically to them wanting to do things a certain way by reason of weak parts in this defense.

Detroit coming into this game wanted that matchup and they got it. They took great advantage of it and overall it is part of the collective reasons we came up short. Should the Rams have been prepared for that? Should they have flipped expectations and had some other shit for Detroit from that first snap that made them adjust? I think that is probably a fair argument.

I don't like people shitting on Morris. But I also don't like cultish defense of the DC where every grain of sand he's ever walked on must be defended. That's stupid, and it's irritating, and frankly I think it is damn near as divisive as shitting on one of our coaches.

Boil it all down and you know what really matters here is that McVay is smart enough to make the changes he needs to make. So the depth chart problems that we definitely have on defense are going to be addressed this offseason. And maybe then we can handle our shit without needing to have a tendency that offenses can take advantage of for a nice chunk of easy yards.
 

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The sooner Hoecht and Witherspoon are off the team the happier I'll be. But do people realize that OLB's are used in coverage at times by every DC including some of the best like Fangio and Schwartz etc etc even Staley? It's part of this defense. The bigger question is why is Hoecht an OLB but that's for another thread :)
 

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The sooner Hoecht and Witherspoon are off the team the happier I'll be. But do people realize that OLB's are used in coverage at times by every DC including some of the best like Fangio and Schwartz etc etc even Staley? It's part of this defense. The bigger question is why is Hoecht an OLB but that's for another thread :)
I have a feeling someone will pay Witherspoon and this will be his last year in horns. But due to our lack of talent in the secondary, many weeks he was being used as our #1 CB, shadowing opposing WR#1s. He's not good enough for that. Not his fault how he was used.

He showed enough this year IMO, particularly early in the season, that I would welcome him back if the money was right and we can bring in enough talent to bump him down the depth chart. But I doubt that proves feasible. Someone will overpay him. Think Troy Hill. A good CB but not one you want to rely on heavily. Can fill in for a few weeks if injuries hit. But you don't want him as the guy regularly. The Browns overpaid for him and so he left. But he made his way back a few years later on a deal that made financial sense.
 

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The sooner Hoecht and Witherspoon are off the team the happier I'll be. But do people realize that OLB's are used in coverage at times by every DC including some of the best like Fangio and Schwartz etc etc even Staley? It's part of this defense. The bigger question is why is Hoecht an OLB but that's for another thread :)
Defense needs TLC. It needs investment of resources. Big time.

We need a top corner. Do that and then these other guys won't be so bad with another year of growth.

We need a talented edge. Even if it's just a rush specialist for third down.

We need another DL for that front and rotation. Way too much of that game tonight was a bunch of Joes who could not get off blocks. A nose tackle who eats space would be welcome. So would a rangy 5T. Either way just keep adding to the rotation because come the playoffs those big boys gotta be able to sustain and we are too dependent on a couple of them.

We need a stud safety for the pairing. Rams might be ok without this, but a difference making safety can change a defense. And we'll be drafting where those guys tend to slot.

We need an ILB who can stay on the field for more snaps next to Jones, or a big SS who can kick ass in that hybrid nickle role and simplify the packages for the DC by playing run/pass equally well.

Defensively our needs are at all levels of the defense IMO. So given that it is indeed hard to be too pissed off at Morris.

Offensively the needs are LT (but at least Jackson has been solid in that role), C (if Dotson returns we have a lot of room for error at the pivot), and that X role wideout. Offense you could do nothing this offseason and they still might be around that 10th range. But this defense needs some damn love. I'm gonna be pissed if they don't focus it this offseason.
 

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The sooner Hoecht and Witherspoon are off the team the happier I'll be. But do people realize that OLB's are used in coverage at times by every DC including some of the best like Fangio and Schwartz etc etc even Staley? It's part of this defense. The bigger question is why is Hoecht an OLB but that's for another thread :)
Yes but as Merlin stated - why did he lead the league in drop backs for OLB. And I also agree with Merlin that it is probably due to other teams figuring out a way to make him drop back. Fine - but the one question I have on that is why was he outside covering TEs or even WRs when he should be on the line of scrimmage. Those were the one's that did not make sense to me.
 

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We need another DL for that front and rotation. Way too much of that game tonight was a bunch of Joes who could not get off blocks. A nose tackle who eats space would be welcome. So would a rangy 5T. Either way just keep adding to the rotation because come the playoffs those big boys gotta be able to sustain and we are too dependent on a couple of them.
Not resigning Gaines was a big mistake imho.

We could have had Gaines Turner and Donald on the line. I think teams would have had a terrible time trying to triple team Donald like Detroit did a few times last night.
 

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Not resigning Gaines was a big mistake imho.
What is funny is my expectations prior to the season were that our defensive front would get trucked in the run game. I was relatively certain of that because I felt like Turner's strength was the penetration he can get but didn't think he'd start year one being as stout as he was in the run game. He's a big part of the reason we held up as well as we did in the run game. Also I didn't believe in him and Brown being able to fill the role vacated by two NTs departing, and I'll still say that for a guy as big as he is and powerful as Brown supposedly is the guy can't get off a block very well.

But yeah. They simply couldn't do everything in a reset offseason. So I'm not gonna be on their nuts about it. Still amazed by how well this team played this year. And the entire staff deserves a ton of credit there.

Lastly being eliminated might help Morris put everything into that interview and get him over the top. I am hopeful for him. Still think it is deserved given the way he took a clearly undermanned unit with zero complaints or insinuations in any of his pressers and got the most from them.

For this draft I'll say again we need impact players on this defense. AD will be a rotational rusher next year on the interior. Early downs Turner will be at 3T is my best guess. So we need more up front and the needs across this defense are significant. Even with a great offseason we'll still be short at a couple spots most likely, but at least add a difference maker or two to the unit. This roster on that side of the ball is badly short.
 

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What is funny is my expectations prior to the season were that our defensive front would get trucked in the run game. I was relatively certain of that because I felt like Turner's strength was the penetration he can get but didn't think he'd start year one being as stout as he was in the run game. He's a big part of the reason we held up as well as we did in the run game. Also I didn't believe in him and Brown being able to fill the role vacated by two NTs departing, and I'll still say that for a guy as big as he is and powerful as Brown supposedly is the guy can't get off a block very well.

But yeah. They simply couldn't do everything in a reset offseason. So I'm not gonna be on their nuts about it. Still amazed by how well this team played this year. And the entire staff deserves a ton of credit there.

Lastly being eliminated might help Morris put everything into that interview and get him over the top. I am hopeful for him. Still think it is deserved given the way he took a clearly undermanned unit with zero complaints or insinuations in any of his pressers and got the most from them.

For this draft I'll say again we need impact players on this defense. AD will be a rotational rusher next year on the interior. Early downs Turner will be at 3T is my best guess. So we need more up front and the needs across this defense are significant. Even with a great offseason we'll still be short at a couple spots most likely, but at least add a difference maker or two to the unit. This roster on that side of the ball is badly short.
I 100% agree
 

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Yes but as Merlin stated - why did he lead the league in drop backs for OLB. And I also agree with Merlin that it is probably due to other teams figuring out a way to make him drop back. Fine - but the one question I have on that is why was he outside covering TEs or even WRs when he should be on the line of scrimmage. Those were the one's that did not make sense to me.
I need Dan's @JimY53 help here but I think our D has rules where there are time where we have 5 on the line where it's the OLB's responsibility to drop into coverage. It's a calculated risk at those times.
 

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What is funny is my expectations prior to the season were that our defensive front would get trucked in the run game. I was relatively certain of that because I felt like Turner's strength was the penetration he can get but didn't think he'd start year one being as stout as he was in the run game. He's a big part of the reason we held up as well as we did in the run game. Also I didn't believe in him and Brown being able to fill the role vacated by two NTs departing, and I'll still say that for a guy as big as he is and powerful as Brown supposedly is the guy can't get off a block very well.

This was Jourdan's worry too. The preseason gashing's in the run game seemed to point to that and she was worried about us having size there and being stout enough. Oddly, the word on Turner coming out of the draft was undersized but terrific in run support and not pass rush. Thought he could offer a lot in run support but get pushed around (he didn't!) but was pleasantly surprised at what he provided in pass rush. Was not what he was known for.
 

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All I know is after we drafted Turner I watched a few of his games and he was a penetrating sumbish. So I recall thinking that was his strength. Of course I am no scout so if he was a run game savant I must have missed that. :laugh3:
 

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My fear with the Seahawks interview is that it’s just an intelligence gathering effort.