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Naming Weddle as the defensive signal caller is critical against a team with a great qb and receivers. He is one of the best safeties ever, and even more elite for his smarts. This is the exclamation point for his career and for the Rams.
I rewatch the 9er game late last night.....Reeder's overall performance was poor in almost all phases of his game. He missed a half dozen tackles several went for big gains. This is a very good decision by DC Morris turning the game calling over to our deep safety.

With Reeder no longer being a priority to be on the field to call the game DC Morris can now utilize the faster quicker defenders like Eric Jones, Travin Howard, Justin Hollins & Taylor Rapp in those interior ILB'er posts. Troy Reeder was the weakest link in our defense.

Jones & Howard will be our starting ILB'ers with Troy Reeder & Christain Rozeboom backups in 2022. I would expect that Snead will have some prioritized UDFA's MLB'er types he will be looking at after the draft.

If it were up to me I would plan on getting DT A'Shawn Robinson's snap count up this Sunday. Right now he is monstering it on the field!
 
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Greetings Rams Fans.

First, thanks for allowing me the opportunity to join and have good discussions about the big game!

As a Bengals fan, obviously rooting for Cincy to win, but realize it will be a massive task for them against an experienced, veteran team that is excellent in many aspects of the game.

Everyone already knows about the extreme mismatch of Rams defensive front vs Cincy OL. The right side of Cincy OL has been getting manhandled.

Not sure if you are aware, but starting RT Reilly Reiff got hurt late in the season forcing Cincy to roll with Isiah Prince the backup. Not sure how/why Prince is 2nd string backup and not lower, but he has been getting beaten often in many ways. Prince is going to have to play the game of his life in this one against your guys' monsters up front.

RG Adeniji has been getting beaten like a drum often. Completely whiffing on blocks, letting people have free runs, being bull rushed easily straight into the pocket, and missed communications have been his MO. I'd rather the Bengals play rookie Carman there. Yes, Carman is prone to penalties and rookie mistakes, but dude is an absolute mauler in screens and run game. We'll see how Cincy plays that position.

Browsing this thread, I saw a couple posters mention the thought of having Ramsey shadow Tee Higgins and then bracketing/doubling Chase. Honestly, I think that is an excellent strategy. Ramsey would likely completely shut out Higgins, and Chase's opportunities get drastically reduced when he's doubled. Ramsey is the best lockdown corner in the game, and would obviously have success 1v1 on Chase. However, Chase 1v1 will still get his at times; not that I think he would have a big game against Ramsey (not likley), but he'll still make a big play or two.

Rams forcing the Bengals to use Boyd, Perrine, Uzomah (if he plays 100%) would be ideal for you. Although, don't sleep on Boyd. He has "sticky" hands, can make a lot of clutch catches, and can take it to the house as well.

Of course, if Burrow is on his back all game, I don't think you'll have to worry much about that.

Also, Whitworth has always been one of my favorite players. That guy has the perfect amount of meanstreak/toughnes/leadership you could want at that position. Was obviously sad to see him leave Cincy, but glad to see him go enjoy some success and get to play in now his 2nd SB. If Cincy doesn't win, I can at least be happy for him, after a proper grieving period of course, Lol.

My prediction:
either a Rams blowout (ala Cards WC game) or a close game. I can tell you though, if it's a close game, don't be surprised if the Bengals steal it or at least make it very exciting. They have done that stuff many times this season (exciting comebacks, finishes, a lot of action win or lose; both KC games, the wild OT games vs Packers/49ers, their playoff games etc.).

Anyhow, sorry about the long post. Just super excited for this Sunday, and hoping for some good discussions/insights about a team from the people who know them most, the Rams fans.
Welcome!

Thank you for your well thought out reasoning, it is genuinely appreciated.

If you guys were playing anyone but the Rams I'd be pulling for you.

I won't wish you good luck (because I want us to have all of the luck, I'm selfish like that), but I will say that we certainly wish you no ill will.
 

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Greetings Rams Fans.

First, thanks for allowing me the opportunity to join and have good discussions about the big game!

As a Bengals fan, obviously rooting for Cincy to win, but realize it will be a massive task for them against an experienced, veteran team that is excellent in many aspects of the game.

Everyone already knows about the extreme mismatch of Rams defensive front vs Cincy OL. The right side of Cincy OL has been getting manhandled.

Not sure if you are aware, but starting RT Reilly Reiff got hurt late in the season forcing Cincy to roll with Isiah Prince the backup. Not sure how/why Prince is 2nd string backup and not lower, but he has been getting beaten often in many ways. Prince is going to have to play the game of his life in this one against your guys' monsters up front.

RG Adeniji has been getting beaten like a drum often. Completely whiffing on blocks, letting people have free runs, being bull rushed easily straight into the pocket, and missed communications have been his MO. I'd rather the Bengals play rookie Carman there. Yes, Carman is prone to penalties and rookie mistakes, but dude is an absolute mauler in screens and run game. We'll see how Cincy plays that position.

Browsing this thread, I saw a couple posters mention the thought of having Ramsey shadow Tee Higgins and then bracketing/doubling Chase. Honestly, I think that is an excellent strategy. Ramsey would likely completely shut out Higgins, and Chase's opportunities get drastically reduced when he's doubled. Ramsey is the best lockdown corner in the game, and would obviously have success 1v1 on Chase. However, Chase 1v1 will still get his at times; not that I think he would have a big game against Ramsey (not likley), but he'll still make a big play or two.

Rams forcing the Bengals to use Boyd, Perrine, Uzomah (if he plays 100%) would be ideal for you. Although, don't sleep on Boyd. He has "sticky" hands, can make a lot of clutch catches, and can take it to the house as well.

Of course, if Burrow is on his back all game, I don't think you'll have to worry much about that.

Also, Whitworth has always been one of my favorite players. That guy has the perfect amount of meanstreak/toughnes/leadership you could want at that position. Was obviously sad to see him leave Cincy, but glad to see him go enjoy some success and get to play in now his 2nd SB. If Cincy doesn't win, I can at least be happy for him, after a proper grieving period of course, Lol.

My prediction:
either a Rams blowout (ala Cards WC game) or a close game. I can tell you though, if it's a close game, don't be surprised if the Bengals steal it or at least make it very exciting. They have done that stuff many times this season (exciting comebacks, finishes, a lot of action win or lose; both KC games, the wild OT games vs Packers/49ers, their playoff games etc.).

Anyhow, sorry about the long post. Just super excited for this Sunday, and hoping for some good discussions/insights about a team from the people who know them most, the Rams fans.

Welcome to ROD, and thanks for your take on things.

My real concern is for us being overconfident going into this, ... not that your Bengals don't belong here, you earned it, but I think back to that fictional tale, "The Mouse that Roared" at times like this.
jmo.
 
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Welcome to ROD, and thanks for your take on things.

My real concern is for us being overconfident going into this, ... not than your Bengals don't belong here, you earned it, but I think back to that fictional tale, "The Mouse that Roared" at times like this.
jmo.

If it were the Chiefs v Rams the Chiefs would be favourites.

The Bengals beat the Chiefs and therefore should be regarded as just as dangerous an opponent.

GO RAMS !!!!!
 

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Welcome and yeah this should be a fun game for all of us. Someone's gotta lose but both these teams have been hard to stop on offense so I am hoping we see some serious fireworks.

The Rams DL started really playing well week to week after they added Von and started Gaines on the nose. And then Robinson started balling and since that point they have pretty much had their way with most OL we have faced. So that's an area where our strength matches up with your weakness.

The flipside of that is the Bengals passing game vs our secondary. Our secondary has had issues all season long and it's why they brought in Weddle. That is one area where, if Burrows has time, you guys are gonna have success.

So pressure by the Rams DL vs your OL pass pro is probably the biggest factor in this game, along with how well the Rams do or don't manage to cover Burrow's early reads. Chances are this decides who wins.

I am biased of course but I think the Rams have an advantage in this game overall. Strange thing with the Rams though is they've had a lot of games that should have been blowouts but they vapor locked. So this one is very much up for grabs. I am hoping we see that full team game for a full 60 that has eluded us but honestly all that matters is a win no matter how ugly.

Again though welcome to the best board anywhere and look forward to talking ball with you. :clinkingbeer:
 

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If it were the Chiefs v Rams the Chiefs would be favourites.

The Bengals beat the Chiefs and therefore should be regarded as just as dangerous an opponent.

GO RAMS !!!!!
Absolutely!!!

If the Rams can keep this defense rested in the first half this will certainly help any comeback in the second half.

Maybe once again I am being the master of the obvious.
 

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Greetings Rams Fans.

First, thanks for allowing me the opportunity to join and have good discussions about the big game!

Welcome, dude. As you can see, we're all happy to have you here. I haven't seen one member talking shit about the Bengals because we can all remember all our shitty years like all the seasons you all had to endure, so we can commiserate with you all.

Rams fan since the mid 70s, and I also thought the Bengals were really cool in the Ken Anderson years, so again, no hate. We just wanna win just like you do. Hang out here all you want, but you may want to stay away from our game day chat--it can get highly emotional and intense with people saying things they normally wouldn't say.

Either way, thanks for dropping in and sharing your well thought-out assessments.

No injuries this Sunday. :clinkingbeer:
 
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The Bengals lost to Mike White this year. Just saying.
Lol, so true. It was early in the season, but honestly I think many Bengals fans were expecting that. The week prior, Cincy had just curb-stomped the Ravens in Baltimore, and the totally "Bengals" thing to do would be to kick the Ravens' behind and then go and lose to the Jets directly after. And it happened.

After their bye week though and in the second half of the season, you could see the Bengals getting better each week.

Their play elevated.

Cincy's results vs a few common opponents this year:
Green Bay - Lost in OT
San Fran- Lost in OT
Tennessee- Won
Ravens - Won 2x

NFL is a league of matchups, so idk exactly why Chiefs/Bengals matchup was so close/favorable for the Bengals. But, beating KC twice in January in almost identical fashion was really something to behold for Bengals fans.

Fun fact (for Cincy anyway):

Of the Chiefs' last 12 games which included the postseason, the inly team to beat them was Cincy twice. They went 10-2 over that span.
 

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Also, Whitworth has always been one of my favorite players. That guy has the perfect amount of meanstreak/toughnes/leadership you could want at that position. Was obviously sad to see him leave Cincy, but glad to see him go enjoy some success and get to play in now his 2nd SB. If Cincy doesn't win, I can at least be happy for him, after a proper grieving period of course, Lol.

I assure you, we also appreciate and love Big Whit. He's been a huge presence on the field, in the locker room, and in the community. Big Whit was one of the first people to establish and contribute a fund for the victims of a shooting at a local restaurant/bar. He's also done alot for our firefighters during our fire seasons, and still has nothing but good things to say about Cincy and your franchise. He's just a good, solid dude, period.

Yes, we really want this SB not only for AD and Stafford, but for Big Whit as well.
 
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Welcome, dude. As you can see, we're all happy to have you here. I haven't seen one member talking shit about the Bengals because we can all remember all our shitty years like all the seasons you all had to endure, so we can commiserate with you all.

Rams fan since the mid 70s, and I also thought the Bengals were really cool in the Ken Anderson years, so again, no hate. We just wanna win just like you do. Hang out here all you want, but you may want to stay away from our game day chat--it can get highly emotional and intense with people saying things they normally wouldn't say.

Either way, thanks for dropping in and sharing your well thought-out assessments.

No injuries this Sunday. :clinkingbeer:

Thanks man. Yeah, Cincy fan since the late 70's. I was 9 years old when Ken Anderson and that team made it to SB and got beat by freaking 49ers. Then 7 years later watched them get beat in SB to the same freaking 49ers.

Needless to say, I was ecstatic (ecstatic!) when the Rams beat 49ers in the NFCC last week. It had nothing to do with team talent or wanting a certain matchup (Rams are stacked and a much better team than San Fran IMO). I just didn't think I could stomach the Bengals finally getting back to a SB and having to face the same freaking 49ers again. It would've been awful.

Lol, no worries about the GameDay thread. I seldom hang out in our own GD threads because of the same type of highly emotional and intense banter.
 

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Burrow is outstanding, as are their WRs. They have a better WR group than we do. But Cincy's OL is bad. They gave up 9 sacks to the Titans, and Burrow was sacked on almost 9% of his regular season dropbacks. If Vonald show up, Burrow could have a really rough day. That all said, Tee Higgins is a mismatch against Darious Williams.
I don't agree at all that their WR corps is better than ours. You take Kupp, Higgs, Van & OBJ and extrapolate his production over a season and Cincy doesn't even come close to our WR's. Throw in the fact that Burrow over the course of the season has had to face (on the average) the worst pass defenses in the NFL and the 2nd worst pass-rush defenses (according to PFF) in the NFL and Burrow's numbers start to look very much NOT top 10.

Here's how I see it:

McVay>Taylor
Rams team-O>Bengals
Stafford>Burrow (better stats/experience)
RB Mixon>Akers (Add Michel and Rams group =)
Rams WR's>Bengals
Rams O-line>Bengals
Bengals TE>Rams (assuming Ozumah plays, if Higbee plays Rams are better)

Rams team-D>Bengals
Rams DB's>Bengals (but very close)
Rams LB's=Bengals
Rams O-line>Bengals
Rams special Teams=Bengals
 

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Thanks man. Yeah, Cincy fan since the late 70's. I was 9 years old when Ken Anderson and that team made it to SB and got beat by freaking 49ers. Then 7 years later watched them get beat in SB to the same freaking 49ers.

Needless to say, I was ecstatic (ecstatic!) when the Rams beat 49ers in the NFCC last week. It had nothing to do with team talent or wanting a certain matchup (Rams are stacked and a much better team than San Fran IMO). I just didn't think I could stomach the Bengals finally getting back to a SB and having to face the same freaking 49ers again. It would've been awful.

Lol, no worries about the GameDay thread. I seldom hang out in our own GD threads because of the same type of highly emotional and intense banter.
Welcome to the board.

What are your thoughts, and the general consensus thoughts on your HC from the Cincy fan base?

Is ZT a big game coach? Halftime adjustments? Will he abandon the run if it's not getting chunk yardage early?
Is he aggressive on 4th down?

Thanks.
 
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I don't agree at all that their WR corps is better than ours. You take Kupp, Higgs, Van & OBJ and extrapolate his production over a season and Cincy doesn't even come close to our WR's.
Yeah, I disagree. Have already had this argument with somebody else, though. So I'll leave it at that.
 

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Lol, so true. It was early in the season, but honestly I think many Bengals fans were expecting that. The week prior, Cincy had just curb-stomped the Ravens in Baltimore, and the totally "Bengals" thing to do would be to kick the Ravens' behind and then go and lose to the Jets directly after. And it happened.

Hey the Rams lost to the Jets in 2020 too. So it happens.

After their bye week though and in the second half of the season, you could see the Bengals getting better each week.

Their play elevated.

Cincy's results vs a few common opponents this year:
Green Bay - Lost in OT
San Fran- Lost in OT
Tennessee- Won
Ravens - Won 2x

They did. I got a fantasy ship in one of my leagues b/c of Ja'Marr.

NFL is a league of matchups, so idk exactly why Chiefs/Bengals matchup was so close/favorable for the Bengals. But, beating KC twice in January in almost identical fashion was really something to behold for Bengals fans.

The Chiefs only have a couple guys on D worth a damn. Chris Jones and Tyrann Mathieu. The Bengal O >>>> Chief D. KC did drop 24 and 31 on the Bengals, but again the O saved the day (and a helluva clock management sequence).

Of the Chiefs' last 12 games which included the postseason, the inly team to beat them was Cincy twice. They went 10-2 over that span.

Impressive.

Rams DB's>Bengals (but very close)

Their safeties are better but @ corner the Rams >>>>. I think that gives the Rams the advantage.
 

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I don't agree at all that their WR corps is better than ours. You take Kupp, Higgs, Van & OBJ and extrapolate his production over a season and Cincy doesn't even come close to our WR's. Throw in the fact that Burrow over the course of the season has had to face (on the average) the worst pass defenses in the NFL and the 2nd worst pass-rush defenses (according to PFF) in the NFL and Burrow's numbers start to look very much NOT top 10.

Here's how I see it:

McVay>Taylor
Rams team-O>Bengals
Stafford>Burrow (better stats/experience)
RB Mixon>Akers (Add Michel and Rams group =)
Rams WR's>Bengals
Rams O-line>Bengals
Bengals TE>Rams (assuming Ozumah plays, if Higbee plays Rams are better)

Rams team-D>Bengals
Rams DB's>Bengals (but very close)
Rams LB's=Bengals
Rams O-line>Bengals
Rams special Teams=Bengals
Post more often @Surfdog67 (y)
 

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I don't agree at all that their WR corps is better than ours. You take Kupp, Higgs, Van & OBJ and extrapolate his production over a season and Cincy doesn't even come close to our WR's. Throw in the fact that Burrow over the course of the season has had to face (on the average) the worst pass defenses in the NFL and the 2nd worst pass-rush defenses (according to PFF) in the NFL and Burrow's numbers start to look very much NOT top 10.

IDK if you can do a straight one to one comp w/ this WRs. They are all different.

Cooper Kupp isn't a streaker, stretch the field type (even tho he can clearly do it if need be i.e., Tampa) like Ja'Marr is. Cooper grinds shit out and Ja'Marr is the guy that makes plays down the field. OBJ is actually closer to Ja'Marr in terms of play, and Cooper is more like Tee Higgins in that regard. Tyler Boyd is 100% slot. Van is a field stretcher.

They all have their roles, and all do them pretty damn good.

I think TE is streaky if your name isn't Travis Kelce or George Kitty so that's a wash IMO.
 
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Welcome and appreciate the insights! In all honestly, I'd have bought a Bengals jersey if the whiners had managed to get past us. I've never had any hate for Cincy, in fact pulled for them in several games and SB. Coulda found me doing an Icky Shuffle once or twice in fact. Loved Burrow and Chase at LSU. That said, I do hope they have off games on Sunday, but will look forward to seeing them in the future. Possible future repeat SB matchups? I'll take it. Cheers