Stafford and those 2 first-rounders - worth it?

[GoodBadUgly]

Remember when Goff had someone wide open in the endzone against the pats in the Superbowl but he put too much air under it and the db was able to get back and knock the ball away. With Stafford, that's a rope and a touchdown.

And Stafford would have also been able to make the adjustments that Goff failed to make despite seeing that defense in Chicago.

If Stafford was a ram that day, we win that game, and if Goff was playing 10 points down against the niners last week, we lose.

Well that's it in a nutshell. There are wins we wouldn't have had with Goff, and I'd submit there are a loss or two we might NOT have had with him as well, but I'd rather have the types of wins and late-game potential we get from the guy with the brass balls.

We're never really out of a game.

 

[Tano]

LOL. Haters are losers who take backhanded shots at out current QB because they can't get rid of the boner they have for our not so current QB. Simple as that. I don't see anybody "hating" on Goff. Some of you are just too emotional, haha....

I like Stafford. He is definitely better than Goff.

But that said, there are 3 people on this board who are definitely haters of Goff.

They never ever had a good word about him

They said he sucked, was a bottom 10 QB, etc etc etc

 

[rdlkgliders]

34 pages this is awesome.
I think we are only a few pages or umm 7 days from our answer and even then it wont answer

 

[Steve808]

I like Stafford. He is definitely better than Goff.

But that said, there are 3 people on this board who are definitely haters of Goff.

They never ever had a good word about him

They said he sucked, was a bottom 10 QB, etc etc etc

I think overall, Stafford is better than Goff. But my concern which I brought up before is that Goff if like 27 years old and Stafford is 34. Now if we win SB 56, I won't care but in the big picture, my question is whether the Rams gave up on Goff too early? What I mean is will Goff get that "AHA" moment where he becomes an elite QB? I doubt that will happen in Detroit but Goff's results in Detroit should not be an indicator by itself.

 

[jrry32]

I think overall, Stafford is better than Goff. But my concern which I brought up before is that Goff if like 27 years old and Stafford is 34. Now if we win SB 56, I won't care but in the big picture, my question is whether the Rams gave up on Goff too early? What I mean is will Goff get that "AHA" moment where he becomes an elite QB? I doubt that will happen in Detroit but Goff's results in Detroit should not be an indicator by itself.

At the end of the day, the Rams made this move to win a Super Bowl in the short term. They're in the Super Bowl, so I am not going to question the strategy. Some of our key pieces are starting to get older. McVay will need to start figuring out the post-Stafford era at some point.

 

[Faceplant]

I like Stafford. He is definitely better than Goff.

But that said, there are 3 people on this board who are definitely haters of Goff.

They never ever had a good word about him

They said he sucked, was a bottom 10 QB, etc etc etc

Hmm. Somehow I have missed those comments. Maybe I blocked them. I can't stand mofos like that.

Unfortunately, there are a few here who just will not let any compliment of Stafford get by without a snarky, "yeah but" type comment. I just don't understand those people.... I just..... Don't. Regardless of the player.

 

[Tano]

Hmm. Somehow I have missed those comments. Maybe I blocked them. I can't stand mofos like that.

I have those 3 blocked now but not because they were haters but because they were very insulting directly to me and I don't need to take that crap online

 

[Faceplant]

I have those 3 blocked now but not because they were haters but because they were very insulting directly to me and I don't need to take that crap online

Yeah, that shit shouldn't fly here at all. Internet "bullies" are the most triflin' thing on any forum.

 

[Tano]

I think overall, Stafford is better than Goff. But my concern which I brought up before is that Goff if like 27 years old and Stafford is 34. Now if we win SB 56, I won't care but in the big picture, my question is whether the Rams gave up on Goff too early? What I mean is will Goff get that "AHA" moment where he becomes an elite QB? I doubt that will happen in Detroit but Goff's results in Detroit should not be an indicator by itself.

I felt they gave up on Goff too early because I felt all he needed was an above average center for those 2nd and 3rd and longs but it was never going to work with Goff and McVay.

That relationship was broken and it was a good thing that Goff was moved.

Plus Stafford right now is a much better QB and has a better arm than Goff

 

[NJRamsFan]

Same Posters secretly taking shots at Stafford not letting go of their defense of Goff

Same posters completely dismissing anything Goff did and acting as if he was the worst qb ever with the addition of now beating their chests

Did I miss anything? Man I’m glad this is still going on!

 

[UKram]

Remember when Goff had someone wide open in the endzone against the pats in the Superbowl but he put too much air under it and the db was able to get back and knock the ball away. With Stafford, that's a rope and a touchdown.

And Stafford would have also been able to make the adjustments that Goff failed to make despite seeing that defense in Chicago.

If Stafford was a ram that day, we win that game, and if Goff was playing 10 points down against the niners last week, we lose.

and if cooky caught that touchdown in the endzone ... my aunt would be my uncle ...nd goff an co might have had a ring already and going for number 2

 

[rdlkgliders]

I am certainly happy we have Matt Starting Sunday, Can't wait to see him play

 

[wolfdogg]

and if cooky caught that touchdown in the endzone ... my aunt would be my uncle ...nd goff an co might have had a ring already and going for number 2

I know, that was a perfect pass to cooks and actually could have been called PI. I'm not saying Goff didn't, can't have his moments. All I've been saying from day one of the trade was that Staffords game will produce more of those big plays, especially in big moments. I was never really comfortable with Goff having to come from behind.

 

[XXXIVwin]

At the end of the day, the Rams made this move to win a Super Bowl in the short term. They're in the Super Bowl, so I am not going to question the strategy. Some of our key pieces are starting to get older. McVay will need to start figuring out the post-Stafford era at some point.

Disagree with this. I don't think the Rams have a "short term strategy", I think it's sustainable. Rams have invested their first day premium picks in Ramsey, Stafford, and Miller, and those investments will continue to pay huge dividends in the coming years. They also have stockpiled third-day picks to fill out the roster, and I expect them to continue to find and develop later picks like Nick Scott, Fuller, Gaines, Edwards, SJD, and so on.

Also disagree that the Rams need to plan for the post-Stafford era anytime soon. Four years is an absolute eternity in the NFL, and I've got every reason to believe Stafford has four years left in him. His career has been revived and he's living the dream. As long as his body holds up and he's having fun there's no reason for him to retire. Stafford is 34. Look at what Drew Brees accomplished in the NFL after the age of 34... Brees' teams were competitive and in the SB conversation nearly every year from the time he was 34 until he was 40.

Yes Stafford is banged up, but he's also a warrior who is having the time of his life. I think expecting him to play another 3 to seven years is reasonable. Somebody posted the comparison of the Rams 2018 SB roster to the Rams 2021 SB roster... in 3 short years nearly the entire roster was turned over. So given how quickly NFL rosters change, I think it's way too early to start discussing "planning for the post-Stafford era."

 

[Kupped]

Disagree with this. I don't think the Rams have a "short term strategy", I think it's sustainable. Rams have invested their first day premium picks in Ramsey, Stafford, and Miller, and those investments will continue to pay huge dividends in the coming years. They also have stockpiled third-day picks to fill out the roster, and I expect them to continue to find and develop later picks like Nick Scott, Fuller, Gaines, Edwards, SJD, and so on.

Also disagree that the Rams need to plan for the post-Stafford era anytime soon. Four years is an absolute eternity in the NFL, and I've got every reason to believe Stafford has four years left in him. His career has been revived and he's living the dream. As long as his body holds up and he's having fun there's no reason for him to retire. Stafford is 34. Look at what Drew Brees accomplished in the NFL after the age of 34... Brees' teams were competitive and in the SB conversation nearly every year from the time he was 34 until he was 40.

Yes Stafford is banged up, but he's also a warrior who is having the time of his life. I think expecting him to play another 3 to seven years is reasonable. Somebody posted the comparison of the Rams 2018 SB roster to the Rams 2021 SB roster... in 3 short years nearly the entire roster was turned over. So given how quickly NFL rosters change, I think it's way too early to start discussing "planning for the post-Stafford era."

I also think Stafford will come back better physically next year.
His body is all he needs to focus on this offseason.. he doesn't have to learn an offense, move to a new organization, learn the receivers and his teammates.

He also won't be coming off a thumb surgery. He'll be better next year for the Rams.. the only question is how much?

 

[jrry32]

Disagree with this. I don't think the Rams have a "short term strategy", I think it's sustainable. Rams have invested their first day premium picks in Ramsey, Stafford, and Miller, and those investments will continue to pay huge dividends in the coming years. They also have stockpiled third-day picks to fill out the roster, and I expect them to continue to find and develop later picks like Nick Scott, Fuller, Gaines, Edwards, SJD, and so on.

Also disagree that the Rams need to plan for the post-Stafford era anytime soon. Four years is an absolute eternity in the NFL, and I've got every reason to believe Stafford has four years left in him. His career has been revived and he's living the dream. As long as his body holds up and he's having fun there's no reason for him to retire. Stafford is 34. Look at what Drew Brees accomplished in the NFL after the age of 34... Brees' teams were competitive and in the SB conversation nearly every year from the time he was 34 until he was 40.

Yes Stafford is banged up, but he's also a warrior who is having the time of his life. I think expecting him to play another 3 to seven years is reasonable. Somebody posted the comparison of the Rams 2018 SB roster to the Rams 2021 SB roster... in 3 short years nearly the entire roster was turned over. So given how quickly NFL rosters change, I think it's way too early to start discussing "planning for the post-Stafford era."

Investing your first three picks in the 2022 Draft and your first pick in the 2023 Draft in two guys who are in their 30s is about winning in the short term. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that. The Rams have been very transparent that they see their window as being open right now, and they're going for it.

As for Stafford, he takes an absolute beating out there. I respect the hell out of him for it. But if I'm the Rams, I am thinking about the post-Stafford era in the next couple years. If we're lucky, he may play at a high level until 40. If we're not so lucky, he may only have a handful more years left. In either case, it's smart to plan ahead, and it's a good idea to keep an eye out for a QB to develop behind him.

 

[Tano]

Disagree with this. I don't think the Rams have a "short term strategy", I think it's sustainable. Rams have invested their first day premium picks in Ramsey, Stafford, and Miller, and those investments will continue to pay huge dividends in the coming years. They also have stockpiled third-day picks to fill out the roster, and I expect them to continue to find and develop later picks like Nick Scott, Fuller, Gaines, Edwards, SJD, and so on.

Also disagree that the Rams need to plan for the post-Stafford era anytime soon. Four years is an absolute eternity in the NFL, and I've got every reason to believe Stafford has four years left in him. His career has been revived and he's living the dream. As long as his body holds up and he's having fun there's no reason for him to retire. Stafford is 34. Look at what Drew Brees accomplished in the NFL after the age of 34... Brees' teams were competitive and in the SB conversation nearly every year from the time he was 34 until he was 40.

Yes Stafford is banged up, but he's also a warrior who is having the time of his life. I think expecting him to play another 3 to seven years is reasonable. Somebody posted the comparison of the Rams 2018 SB roster to the Rams 2021 SB roster... in 3 short years nearly the entire roster was turned over. So given how quickly NFL rosters change, I think it's way too early to start discussing "planning for the post-Stafford era."

What do you mean completely turned over? Donald is still on the team and he is the roster.

 

[Mojo Ram]

The Rams traded picks for a(significant) upgrade at QB, the most important position in the game.

Mission accomplished.

All of this justification talk is just noise. I mean, if it was common knowledge that Stafford was retiring after this season, or that the Rams next season were going to deliberately stop trying to put a winning product on the field then yeah...All or nothing is a thing, and Stafford has to win a super bowl a week from now or we wasted those picks.

It's a team game. Adding Stafford and subtracting Goff gave the team a better shot at a championship. It's that simple.

 

[sdakotaram]

At the end of the day, the Rams made this move to win a Super Bowl in the short term. They're in the Super Bowl, so I am not going to question the strategy. Some of our key pieces are starting to get older. McVay will need to start figuring out the post-Stafford era at some point.

Easy fix.....trade a couple 1st rounders for Mahomes or Hebert.....problem solved!!

 

[Steve808]

Let's put a positive spin on this. The Rams #1 picks will be at #32 anyway so the picks are not as valuable as Jacksonville's.