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I’m going to say his agent is full of shit and he picked the perfect stooge to deliver his message.Looks like I low-balled it listing 17 teams as interested. Its 26
Brendan Sorsby's agent says 26 NFL teams have reached out since Monday
With quarterback Brendan Sorsby applying for the NFL supplemental draft, NFL teams are applying elbow grease in an effort to evaluate Sorsby.www.nbcsports.com
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really.. no one has mentioned it yet?!?!?!
Fine... I'll say it then
Vegas would be a great fit for him!!
Fine... I'll say it then
Vegas would be a great fit for him!!
Rams’ presence at Brendan Sorsby’s pro day may be about more than quarterback scouting
The Los Angeles Rams are expected to have a presence at Brendan Sorsby’s supplemental draft pro day on July 10, but don’t expect Sean McVay and Les Snead to suddenly develop quarterback…
nypost.com
What are his odds at LT for 5-8 games? Just asking for a friend
Hello, this is my first post on ROD.
1. I'm not concerned about his gambling issue per se from a moral or league suspension standpoint, but I think it is a red flag from a football character POV. In other words, does the draft prospect "love football" and have the necessary work ethic and leadership traits, especially if the team is trying to draft a franchise QB? What I see on tape when I study his games is a QB who doesn't work on his craft, otherwise he wouldn't be so raw at this point. To me, that's a way bigger problem than whatever people might think about gambling itself.
2. He struggles to read very basic defensive coverages. Both pre-snap and with simple post-snap DB rotations, he either throws the ball to the wrong WR or he's very late seeing WRs come open. He doesn't anticipate the route come open, he only throws it after he sees the WR uncover. You can get away with that some in college, but NFL defenses will punish you if your eyes/mind work slow in the pros.
3. His mechanics are extremely lazy and sloppy, both upper and lower body. His feet don't move properly, especially as he goes through the progression and vs mild pass rush pressure and his upper body doesn't rotate, relying too much on his natural arm strength. This results in very bad accuracy misses on what should be relatively easy completions. Even in cases where the WR catches the ball, it hinders RAC, because the WR must adjust and twist, turn or jump to catch instead of immediately being able to run. Normally, his misses are high, which can result in tipped balls for potential INTs and can expose the WR to injury when they get hit in the air.
4. He's a very good runner and scrambler, but he takes off running when what he should be doing is stepping up in the pocket or taking one step to the side and throwing the ball to a route that is a tiny split second away from coming open. This is part of his inability to read the coverage properly before or just after the ball is snapped. Even when he should know that a route will work vs the defensive call, he doesn't give it time, he just tries to be a hero and run himself, which isn't going to work in the NFL. IMO, he's behind where Carson Wentz was when Wentz got drafted.
5. Bottom line is that despite the arm talent and pure running ability, I don't see a future Josh Allen with this QB. I think he's more like Zach Wilson, the guy the Jets drafted, or along the lines of Will Levis, who was drafted by the Titans. He's not the type of QB McVay would like, because McVay loves a QB who is very smart and lives in the film room. McVay needs the QB to be on the same page as the coach, otherwise McVay will pull his hair out and go bonkers with all the mental mistakes and stupid things the QB does on the field, messing up all of McVay's good play designs and play calls.
1. I'm not concerned about his gambling issue per se from a moral or league suspension standpoint, but I think it is a red flag from a football character POV. In other words, does the draft prospect "love football" and have the necessary work ethic and leadership traits, especially if the team is trying to draft a franchise QB? What I see on tape when I study his games is a QB who doesn't work on his craft, otherwise he wouldn't be so raw at this point. To me, that's a way bigger problem than whatever people might think about gambling itself.
2. He struggles to read very basic defensive coverages. Both pre-snap and with simple post-snap DB rotations, he either throws the ball to the wrong WR or he's very late seeing WRs come open. He doesn't anticipate the route come open, he only throws it after he sees the WR uncover. You can get away with that some in college, but NFL defenses will punish you if your eyes/mind work slow in the pros.
3. His mechanics are extremely lazy and sloppy, both upper and lower body. His feet don't move properly, especially as he goes through the progression and vs mild pass rush pressure and his upper body doesn't rotate, relying too much on his natural arm strength. This results in very bad accuracy misses on what should be relatively easy completions. Even in cases where the WR catches the ball, it hinders RAC, because the WR must adjust and twist, turn or jump to catch instead of immediately being able to run. Normally, his misses are high, which can result in tipped balls for potential INTs and can expose the WR to injury when they get hit in the air.
4. He's a very good runner and scrambler, but he takes off running when what he should be doing is stepping up in the pocket or taking one step to the side and throwing the ball to a route that is a tiny split second away from coming open. This is part of his inability to read the coverage properly before or just after the ball is snapped. Even when he should know that a route will work vs the defensive call, he doesn't give it time, he just tries to be a hero and run himself, which isn't going to work in the NFL. IMO, he's behind where Carson Wentz was when Wentz got drafted.
5. Bottom line is that despite the arm talent and pure running ability, I don't see a future Josh Allen with this QB. I think he's more like Zach Wilson, the guy the Jets drafted, or along the lines of Will Levis, who was drafted by the Titans. He's not the type of QB McVay would like, because McVay loves a QB who is very smart and lives in the film room. McVay needs the QB to be on the same page as the coach, otherwise McVay will pull his hair out and go bonkers with all the mental mistakes and stupid things the QB does on the field, messing up all of McVay's good play designs and play calls.
I'm ready to roll with the QBs the Rams have on the roster and will be interested to see how Bennett does with getting more reps in the off season.
My prediction: Steelers submit a 1st round pick for him. Sorsby was one of the 5 QB's listed as potential 1st overall pick depending on the season they had. He has all the physical tools to be a high end NFL starter. IMO, Steelers wouldn't have sniffed a chance at a top 5 QB in the draft, so they gamble on it here.
First off, welcome to ROD! Hope you enjoy your stay here and enjoy all of the perks!
And yeah, I have to agree that Sorsby has poor mechanics and reading coverages, and I can agree with a Levis/Justin Fields comparison, but THE main thing that concerns me is the gambling. He not only gambled on his own team, but he gambled on the under with his own team (at Indiana as a backup, albeit having never been in games to influence the outcome himself). Gambling on your team to win is one thing (still wrong and will get you deservedly permabanned, though), but gambling on your team/yourself to do poorly is especially shitty and will likely get you permabanned like the Black Sox (and more recently, Emmanuel Clase and Luis L. Ortiz) did and was. You can never, ever trust a player who will bet on his team to do poorly, especially someone who bet over nine-thousand times in all kinds of sports; that's Art Schlichter territory.
Now, granted, he says that he never gambled on his team's performance when he was a starter at Cincinnati, and Cincinnati denies it as well, but both of their words can't be trusted (Sorsby's for obvious reasons) because they benefitted from Sorsby starting, and if they admit that, the NCAA and schools in their division will sanction them like Texas Tech.
In addition, they only sued Sorbsy for breach of NIL contract and likeness, not for impermissible gambling on their games (which honestly makes Sorsby even more scummy than he already is, aside from the gambling. Not illegal, but a dick move regardless.), which they can do if they can prove financial/reputational harm, which they could easily prove. Given that they didn't sue him for that, it's a little concerning that they didn't.
To be on topic, Sorsby simply cannot be trusted, and that's why I wouldn't want to take a chance on him. All of the physical tools are there, but the space between his ears is not only poor at football, but untrustworthy to any sports team.
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Excellent first post sir! I think you nailed it.
Sorsby is essentially the antithesis of a guy like Simpson. Simpson is a student of the game and it shows in his mechanics, anticipation, reading the DB's body language, and working through progressions. Sorsby is a guy that has the arm talent with far less preparation but just lets it all hang out on the field. It worked at times at the college level but is likely to struggle in the pros. Zach Wilson is a very good comparison.
But what about moms? Will we have to worry about our moms around Sorsby?
