The ultimate irony, you know damned well if it was Harrison hitting Foles on a play and the injury happened they'd be crying to anybody who would listen that it was clean and warranted no penalty or fine. There was nothing wrong with the play.
Some Steelers Fans Want Mark Barron Fined
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I'll say this, I think he should have been penalized. It was an illegal hit for all i could see. That said, I don't think Barron is at all a dirty player and by no means did he purposely hurt Ben. It's just unfortunate and I fully believe that Tomlin would have spoke up if he felt it was dirty. I feel for Ben, but them knees are made of glass
BS ALERT!! Ben was on the move, you must have had too much to drink, IF you believe he was standing in the pocket, he was on the move!
Here's a link to the NFL.com video and story. (It's right at the beginning of the video.) Looks to me that he pulled the ball in and started running because of Barron so it shouldn't be a penalty.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...omlin-big-ben-to-be-out-for-a-number-of-weeks
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...omlin-big-ben-to-be-out-for-a-number-of-weeks
It was an illegal hit, but I don't think he was doing it with "intent" it looks like he bounced off of another guy and went down from that.
It would have been fair to flag it, but not to fine or suspend.
Meh, this shit happens in football, basketball, soccer, hockey (yawn) and every other sport.
OK well not baseball, but it's not a contact sport.
It would have been fair to flag it, but not to fine or suspend.
Meh, this shit happens in football, basketball, soccer, hockey (yawn) and every other sport.
OK well not baseball, but it's not a contact sport.
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as for steelers fans suck it up its football people get hurt
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Ben Roethlisberger: I don’t think Mark Barron’s hit was dirty
Posted by Josh Alper on September 29, 2015
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When Steelers coach Mike Tomlin was asked about the low hit by Rams safety Mark Barron that injured Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, he said he was “not going to be critical of the hit or officiating” because of a league memo reminding teams not to be critical of other teams or officials.
Barron did hit Roethlisberger low, but he didn’t seem to target the knee and Roethlisberger still had the ball so there wasn’t too much to complain about other than the outcome. That seems to be Roethlisberger’s opinion as well. He said Tuesday, via Aditi Kinkhabwala of NFL Media, that “I don’t think it was dirty.”
At this point, worrying about the hit is a secondary concern to getting back on the field and Roethlisberger said that there’s no specific timeline yet for that to happen. He said the MCL sprain has to heal for stability and that dealing with the bone bruise on the knee will be about pain tolerance, adding that it “is a lot of pain” right now.
None of that will clear up before Thursday’s game with the Ravens and Roethlisberger wants to be on the sideline to help Michael Vick in his first start with the Steelers. Coach Mike Tomlin has a rule against players on crutches being on the sideline, however, which could stop that from happening if that pain hasn’t subsided in the next 48 hours or so.
Ben Roethlisberger: I don’t think Mark Barron’s hit was dirty
Posted by Josh Alper on September 29, 2015
When Steelers coach Mike Tomlin was asked about the low hit by Rams safety Mark Barron that injured Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, he said he was “not going to be critical of the hit or officiating” because of a league memo reminding teams not to be critical of other teams or officials.
Barron did hit Roethlisberger low, but he didn’t seem to target the knee and Roethlisberger still had the ball so there wasn’t too much to complain about other than the outcome. That seems to be Roethlisberger’s opinion as well. He said Tuesday, via Aditi Kinkhabwala of NFL Media, that “I don’t think it was dirty.”
At this point, worrying about the hit is a secondary concern to getting back on the field and Roethlisberger said that there’s no specific timeline yet for that to happen. He said the MCL sprain has to heal for stability and that dealing with the bone bruise on the knee will be about pain tolerance, adding that it “is a lot of pain” right now.
None of that will clear up before Thursday’s game with the Ravens and Roethlisberger wants to be on the sideline to help Michael Vick in his first start with the Steelers. Coach Mike Tomlin has a rule against players on crutches being on the sideline, however, which could stop that from happening if that pain hasn’t subsided in the next 48 hours or so.
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All of the Steelers fans complaining about this would be saying the exact opposite if Harrison had done this exact thing to Foles.
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Report: Fine not coming for Mark Barron’s hit on Ben Roethlisberger
Posted by Mike Florio on September 29, 2015
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On Sunday, Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger suffered a knee injury after taking a low hit from Rams safety Mark Barron. Barron wasn’t flagged on the play, and he reportedly won’t be fined.
Per Ed Werder of ESPN, the league office isn’t expected to fine Barron for the low hit.
Dirty or not, the hit from Barron violates the rules. From Rule 12, Section 2, Article 9(e): “A rushing defender is prohibited from forcibly hitting in the knee area or below a passer who has one or both feet on the ground, even if the initial contact is above the knee. It is not a foul if the defender is blocked (or fouled) into the passer and has no opportunity to avoid him.”
So it should have been a foul. And since we often see personal fouls result in fines, why wouldn’t a personal foul that tears up a quarterback’s knee result in a fine?
Report: Fine not coming for Mark Barron’s hit on Ben Roethlisberger
Posted by Mike Florio on September 29, 2015
On Sunday, Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger suffered a knee injury after taking a low hit from Rams safety Mark Barron. Barron wasn’t flagged on the play, and he reportedly won’t be fined.
Per Ed Werder of ESPN, the league office isn’t expected to fine Barron for the low hit.
Dirty or not, the hit from Barron violates the rules. From Rule 12, Section 2, Article 9(e): “A rushing defender is prohibited from forcibly hitting in the knee area or below a passer who has one or both feet on the ground, even if the initial contact is above the knee. It is not a foul if the defender is blocked (or fouled) into the passer and has no opportunity to avoid him.”
So it should have been a foul. And since we often see personal fouls result in fines, why wouldn’t a personal foul that tears up a quarterback’s knee result in a fine?
Mike Pereria even said he felt it was an illegal hit. I dont think anyone is really saying it was dirty or malicious though.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...st-louis-rams-mark-barron-mike-pereira-092715
Sorry, but if it was a Steeler player who hit Foles (or imagine if Bradford was still here...)people here would absolutely be saying it was illegal. And you can be damn sure if it was Tom Brady it would have drawn a flag and a fine.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...st-louis-rams-mark-barron-mike-pereira-092715
Sorry, but if it was a Steeler player who hit Foles (or imagine if Bradford was still here...)people here would absolutely be saying it was illegal. And you can be damn sure if it was Tom Brady it would have drawn a flag and a fine.
I don't claim to fully understand the rule but it sure looks to me like the QB brought the ball down and was beginning to run forward. He definitely wasn't trying to throw a pass at that point. Once the QB starts to run, isn't he treated just like a running back?
The fifth provision of Rule 12, Section 2, Article 12 (roughing the passer)
"A rushing defender is prohibited from forcibly hitting in the knee area or below a passer who has one or both feet on the ground, even if the initial contact is above the knee. It is not a foul if the defender is blocked (or fouled) into the passer and has no opportunity to avoid him."