Some recent Ram coaching/FO decisions that I still don’t understand…

[Soul Surfer]

It's Goff's girlfriend's fault.

Not when I was hanging out with her it wasn't.

She could do no wrong.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Very little?
They used their highest draft pick to replace the guard.. and gave a big contract to keep the guy who's been in the system 4 years and has performed quite well at Left Tackle over the years. There weren't many better options at LT and the options out there were super expensive.

I'm not even blaming them on the left tackle position.
That is actually working out as addition by subtraction so far this season.
But like I was saying, I was never sold on Allen as an anchor up the middle.
Shelton was a complete unknown and now he's injured.
Edwards was roundly considered to be average.
We could barely run the ball last year against most of the teams.

So left tackle had a chance to be a downgrade.
Edwards was average.
I saw Allen as below average overall.
An unknown in Shelton or Bruss or whoever?
That had minimal chance of working.

This thing had a chance to implode in week one or two which I could see right off the bat.

We're actually lucky to be three and five and not totally out of it at this point with this oline.

It's pretty obvious what the problem is here.

 

[Classic Rams]

Patriot cheating? Tano, you don't recall guys recording Rams practices' so they all knew the calls? Then the NFL finding the tapes and then burning them?

Their trophy should have been taken from them, Kraft banned from games for life, Bellicheat forced to retire and the team suspended rom the playoffs for 2 years.

Not nearly enough.

Brady should've been hung by the balls on live TV.

Cheatriot fans should've been bandwagoning on another team.

And Roger Goodell should've been traded to the Canadian League for a stale bannock.

 

[Pancake]

the concept of a stacked roster is interesting applied to the NFL.....the salary cap makes that nearly impossible.

Last years roster was about as good as it gets.

 

[Kupped]

I'm not even blaming them on the left tackle position.
That is actually working out as addition by subtraction so far this season.
But like I was saying, I was never sold on Allen as an anchor up the middle.
Shelton was a complete unknown and now he's injured.
Edwards was roundly considered to be average.
We could barely run the ball last year against most of the teams.

So left tackle had a chance to be a downgrade.
Edwards was average.
I saw Allen as below average overall.
An unknown in Shelton or Bruss or whoever?
That had minimal chance of working.

This thing had a chance to implode in week one or two which I could see right off the bat.

We're actually lucky to be three and five and not totally out of it at this point with this oline.

It's pretty obvious what the problem is here.

Coming into the season, I did not see the line being as good as it was last year.
I’ll quibble with Shelton being “unknown”… he was, at worst, a decent backup.
They used their highest draft pick on the line.. so, obviously, they prioritized the position.
They also drafted a tackle.
The biggest problem I have is that there are so many injuries.. we just don’t know.
And they are at a specific position. Would Evans be a total disaster at RT? Do you expect all backups to be equally proficient at all positions?
They drafted/developed 4 Olinemen in the last two years… in addition to continuing working with Brewer and project Pircher.
Once you get to lineman 10 & 11… it’s a crapshoot.

 

[Memento]

Not nearly enough.

Brady should've been hung by the balls on live TV.

Cheatriot fans should've been bandwagoning on another team.

And Roger Goodell should've been traded to the Canadian League for a stale bannock.

You forgot that the Cheatriots should've been forcibly moved away from the New England area and be rebranded.

...What? I do that on Madden occasionally.

 

[gabriel18]

Very little?
They used their highest draft pick to replace the guard.. and gave a big contract to keep the guy who's been in the system 4 years and has performed quite well at Left Tackle over the years. There weren't many better options at LT and the options out there were super expensive.

A late 3rd round pick last year and

Very little?
They used their highest draft pick to replace the guard.. and gave a big contract to keep the guy who's been in the system 4 years and has performed quite well at Left Tackle over the years. There weren't many better options at LT and the options out there were super expensive.

Lets see.
2020 draft
Late 7th round oline pick
2021
Absolutely no oline drafted
See Atwell
2022
Late 3rd round oline pick

I was wrong. Not very little , next to nothing is a better analogy

 

[fearsomefour]

I generally trust in McVay and Snead, and I think they have earned that.

But I just think they got lazy, to be honest, this past off-season.

Too much time basking in the Super Bowl win (and/or even thinking about retirement?!) and not enough time spent on roster evaluation, both in-house and externally, with a view towards improving the roster.

Case in point, in free agency, it felt like they just went for the "biggest name" available and called it a day. Wagner is working out great. ARob less so, but his play has really come around - he is getting open and making lots of contested, high difficulty catches. If we could fix the o-line and Stafford had time to find him and we had time for routes to develop, I really think ARob would be a weapon, and I am very optimistic that will still prove to be the case as we get bodies back on the offensive line and into next season.

Need a new LT? Let's just hand it to Noteboom despite a very small sample size, despite that still always being injured, and some of his body of work being pretty unimpressive (e.g. at LG).

This is all speculation of course. But it's just my view / gut instinct.

It did not feel like a very Rams-esque approach to me.

Whatever top flight LT were the Rams going to land in FA or in a draft without a high pick?
Right, they weren't.
Resigning Noteboom was the smart, logical thing to do given the resources on hand.
Him playing so badly was not expected.

 

[fearsomefour]

There is one thing we may not have considered. They won a championship. Is the hunger still there? Are they fat and content now? Sometimes it sure looks like it. From the players to the coaches I don't see a sense of urgency.

Its sort of ironic that someone getting fat indicates a lack of hunger.....

 

[Kupped]

A late 3rd round pick last year and

Lets see.
2020 draft
Late 7th round oline pick
2021
Absolutely no oline drafted
See Atwell
2022
Late 3rd round oline pick

I was wrong. Not very little , next to nothing is a better analogy

I guess it’s a perspective thing.
Of the assess they had, as in draft picks, they’ve spent.

There’s also the lack of evaluation of those years picks/developments.

For example.. zero draft picks last year. Terrible!!! No investment! But it looks like they found a starting level LT.
I’m bummed we didn’t get to see Anchrum.

I guess I’m saying it’s drafting AND developing.

 

[Tano]

A late 3rd round pick last year and

Lets see.
2020 draft
Late 7th round oline pick
2021
Absolutely no oline drafted
See Atwell
2022
Late 3rd round oline pick

I was wrong. Not very little , next to nothing is a better analogy

I have been saying that over and over

The Rams have barely done anything with the OL in the last 3 drafts.

At least last year, we got 1 (wow) 1 player in the 3rd round and nothing else.

You can't expect to do well on the OL if you continue each year to disregard the position in the draft.


1 late seventh round pick and 1 3rd round pick in the last 3 years is not going to cut it

 

[iamme33]

However it is Snead that makes the final decision with the okay from McVay.

yeah I'm sure that snead and mcvay make the final decision but i would think those decisions are based on scouting reports. if not why have scouts?

 

[Tano]

yeah I'm sure that snead and mcvay make the final decision but i would think those decisions are based on scouting reports. if not why have scouts?

Well we must have some crappy OL scouts then

 

[iamme33]

Well we must have some crappy OL scouts then

Well we must have some crappy OL scouts then

yeah i am wondering about the hole scouting department.
here is a list of picks excluding this years because it has not been long enough to make a judgement.
offense acers a 2nd rnd pick havenstein a fisher pik henderson a 3rd rnd pick
higbee fisher pick hopkins a 4th rnd pick arlaric johnson a udfa
allen a 4th rnd pick jefferson a 2nd rnd pic cupp a 3rd rnd pick
atwell a 2nd rnd pick shelton a udfa skowroneck a 7 rnd pik
evens a 3rd rnd pick edwards a5th rnd pick noteboom a 3rd rnd pick
defense donald a fisher pick gains a 4th rnd pick hill a udfa jones a 3rd rnd pick lewis a 3rd rnd pick rapp a 2nd rnd pick
it looks to me like if you don't count the fisher picks and cupp we got very little out of all those picks which makes me think we need to take a serious look at our scouts. i know it is macsneed that make the decisions but i am pretty sure they just look at the tape the scout bring in.

 

[Tumak61]

Biggest issue is Wolford as our Backup QB? I mean WTF. McVay spent 4 years developing what exactly? He is not good enough. Now I get that maybe they thought he could develop, but he looks terrible out there. 4 years in the offense and he looks like he doesn't have a clue

 

[Steve808]

Honestly, I’m starting to lose confidence in these coaches and this FO.

Here we go…

Why pick Atwell over Humphrey?

Why keep starting Evans with Brewer, Aboushi, and Skura in the wings? Now we’ve got Stafford in concussion protocol. Geez…

Why take forever to integrate AR in the O after a reportedly stellar camp?

How and why did they allow TE corps to be reduced to essentially one functional player (Higbee)? They virtually unilaterally neutered their own TE room.

WTH happened between McVay and Akers?

Why is it that we have a non-productive RB corps that is habitually injured? Is it a scouting problem or a usage problem?

Why have they tolerated a weak overall run blocking OL, even when healthy, for years? Are they scouting/drafting the ‘wrong’ types?

Once the Atwell pick was already made, why have they not at least given him targets to see what they’ve got? Especially after a reportedly stellar camp?

How in the world did the ‘genius O savant’ McVay oversee the utter disintegration of his O so quickly this season while defending a SB victory?

The Liam Coen hire is looking like yet another misfire. O’Connell’s career path is looking infinitely better right now.

So, who exactly was it that thought Hollins/Lewis would be fine at edge, pressure wise? An asst coach, Morris, McVay? SOMEBODY screwed up, that’s for sure.

Why did Morris start Kendrick vs Brady after the 49er game performance? The kid had a target on his back from the jump. I predicted this in a Sunday morning post. WTH couldn’t Morris see this coming? It’s not as if Morris didn’t have 4 other healthy choices available.

Why didn’t Ram D deny the sidelines to Brady’s WR’s in that final drive? That’s prevent D 101.

Whose brilliant idea was it to have Dixon start out-kicking his coverage in this game? Was it because the Bucs’ kicker was kicking so deeply and so well?


Anybody that can logically explain any of the above? If so, I’m all ears.

I can't explain it but since we got the Lombardi, I'll give McVay a pass here.

 

[iamme33]

another thing that has me wondering is mcvay and sneed don't go to the college bowl games or the combine anymore is that because they plan on trading away our top picks.

 

[Steve808]

Honestly, I’m starting to lose confidence in these coaches and this FO.

Here we go…

Why pick Atwell over Humphrey?

Why keep starting Evans with Brewer, Aboushi, and Skura in the wings? Now we’ve got Stafford in concussion protocol. Geez…

Why take forever to integrate AR in the O after a reportedly stellar camp?

How and why did they allow TE corps to be reduced to essentially one functional player (Higbee)? They virtually unilaterally neutered their own TE room.

WTH happened between McVay and Akers?

Why is it that we have a non-productive RB corps that is habitually injured? Is it a scouting problem or a usage problem?

Why have they tolerated a weak overall run blocking OL, even when healthy, for years? Are they scouting/drafting the ‘wrong’ types?

Once the Atwell pick was already made, why have they not at least given him targets to see what they’ve got? Especially after a reportedly stellar camp?

How in the world did the ‘genius O savant’ McVay oversee the utter disintegration of his O so quickly this season while defending a SB victory?

The Liam Coen hire is looking like yet another misfire. O’Connell’s career path is looking infinitely better right now.

So, who exactly was it that thought Hollins/Lewis would be fine at edge, pressure wise? An asst coach, Morris, McVay? SOMEBODY screwed up, that’s for sure.

Why did Morris start Kendrick vs Brady after the 49er game performance? The kid had a target on his back from the jump. I predicted this in a Sunday morning post. WTH couldn’t Morris see this coming? It’s not as if Morris didn’t have 4 other healthy choices available.

Why didn’t Ram D deny the sidelines to Brady’s WR’s in that final drive? That’s prevent D 101.

Whose brilliant idea was it to have Dixon start out-kicking his coverage in this game? Was it because the Bucs’ kicker was kicking so deeply and so well?


Anybody that can logically explain any of the above? If so, I’m all ears.

The Rams won super bowl 56. That's enough for me to cut them some slack with the slew of injuries this season.

 

[Rams43]

The Rams won super bowl 56. That's enough for me to cut them some slack with the slew of injuries this season.

I hear ya, man.

But winning a SB does not absolve this team of criticism for numerous hard-to-explain errors.

 

[Kupped]

I hear ya, man.

But winning a SB does not absolve this team of criticism for numerous hard-to-explain errors.

Yes, it actually does.