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the rams did what they did last year in 2 regular season losses. Played 4 man fronts too much which gave up big ground plays, and did not have ramsey one on one with debo. Same results here. Debo with the big 50 td when ramey was elsewhere, and gtting gouged with 4 man fronts. In the NFC title game, rams came out with 5 and 6 man fronts and they won. I'm saying that if you look at the tape, they revertted back to the losing scheme of last regular season against the niners.


——-AND——- were able to consistently generate pressure and had a second CB who could be counted on in tight coverage.. AND Long was playing his best football…. AND they had Weddle communicating and executing.

Much more about the Jimmy’s & Joe’s than the X’s and O’s.

You answered your own question, in a way.

Why wouldn’t Morris use what worked? If you think the answer is anything but he doesn’t have the horses, you’d have to explain to me why. (Not really.. you don’t owe me anything.. just saying)
 

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Well, lets be real. Superbowl champs rarely repeat. Why? A myriad of reasons. Usually injuries are at the top of the list. But there's another. The one that bothers me the most. Are they fat and content now? I hope not. Because if that is the case don't expect a playoff run. You have to be at 110 percent focus and intensity to win in this league.

I think the injuries are a factor, but the whiners also had injuries, so I think that's a wash. I don't think the Rams are content. I think, in my opinion, that Allen Robinson has been absent. Obviously, it's not only him but his absence and not having Van Jefferson highlighted the problem. Kupp and Higbee got almost all the targets and it made things too easy for the whiners. Plus the Rams didn't have the plays called for the 2 second release which is what we always get from rat boy. That's why IMO, it's not that important to try and sack crapolo, but to man up and flood the passing zones. I think you still bring the pass rush on third and long but that's about it.
 

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——-AND——- were able to consistently generate pressure and had a second CB who could be counted on in tight coverage.. AND Long was playing his best football…. AND they had Weddle communicating and executing.

Much more about the Jimmy’s & Joe’s than the X’s and O’s.

You answered your own question, in a way.

Why wouldn’t Morris use what worked? If you think the answer is anything but he doesn’t have the horses, you’d have to explain to me why. (Not really.. you don’t owe me anything.. just saying)

I don't recall Ramsey covering debo on any of his 4 tds gainst the rams. On Monday, Ramsey was on the other side of the field. I just don't like a scheme that keeps giving up those kinds of plays. The niners got 7 yards a play to the rams 3.5. That says soft d to me. I doubt long and wagner forgot how to play during the offseason so what's going on there.
 

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It'll be a quick turnaround anyway... All home games... Dallas, Carolina, the bye and then whiners again....
Can we hope for some home cooking?!??
I'm not nearly as negative about the team as many here but Home Field Advantage?

I would not expect much there. Not with Cowboys and Niners fans at SoFi.
 

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Heavily invested front 7 vs bargain bin oline...that's the problem. It's 2019 all over again.
 

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I don't recall Ramsey covering debo on any of his 4 tds gainst the rams. On Monday, Ramsey was on the other side of the field. I just don't like a scheme that keeps giving up those kinds of plays. The niners got 7 yards a play to the rams 3.5. That says soft d to me. I doubt long and wagner forgot how to play during the offseason so what's going on there.

Again..
They gave up 17 points, on the road. What are we talking about?
They have their #6 & 7 corners playing the majority of snaps.

Wagner wasn't a superstar last year.. that's why he was available... and he's actually grading out significantly higher on PFF this year than last.

People absolutely HATE the soft coverage shown often... I get it.. but don't let it get in the way of looking at the big picture.. which is stopping teams from scoring.
 

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Again..
They gave up 17 points, on the road. What are we talking about?
They have their #6 & 7 corners playing the majority of snaps.

Wagner wasn't a superstar last year.. that's why he was available... and he's actually grading out significantly higher on PFF this year than last.

People absolutely HATE the soft coverage shown often... I get it.. but don't let it get in the way of looking at the big picture.. which is stopping teams from scoring.
wagner led the league with 170 tackles last year behind a dline that couldnt give him any help. I dont give a shit what pff says when he's on pace for HALF the tackles he had last year behind a shitty line. He should be killing it right now. It's not just scoring allowed. It's the time it takes to allow the score. Why are our corners playing 10 yards off on 3rd and 13? Our corners are better playing closer than than that. The soft coverage is exactly what is getting in the way from our defense being better. At least change it up for one game like we did last and see if thats an improvement.
 

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wagner led the league with 170 tackles last year behind a dline that couldnt give him any help. I dont give a shit what pff says when he's on pace for HALF the tackles he had last year behind a shitty line. He should be killing it right now. It's not just scoring allowed. It's the time it takes to allow the score. Why are our corners playing 10 yards off on 3rd and 13? Our corners are better playing closer than than that. The soft coverage is exactly what is getting in the way from our defense being better. At least change it up for one game like we did last and see if thats an improvement.
Tackles are one of the most overrated stats in the NFL. How many of those were behind the line of scrimmage?
Where was he on the touchdown run? Completely washed out and misread the play.

I do care about PFF.. it's not the be all, end all.. it's just a tool, just like counting stats.

His teammate.. Brooks.. had more tackles than him.. more tackles for loss, significantly.

Can you say who lead the NFL in tackles last year off the top of your head? Probably not.. you know why? It's just not a number that matters that much.

The Rams had about 10 minutes more possession time than the 9ers in that game.

The soft coverage is protecting young corners and depleted safety group while they get up to speed. As the season goes on, you'll see more tight coverage mixed in... just like they did last year.
 

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Again..
They gave up 17 points, on the road. What are we talking about?
They have their #6 & 7 corners playing the majority of snaps.

Wagner wasn't a superstar last year.. that's why he was available... and he's actually grading out significantly higher on PFF this year than last.

People absolutely HATE the soft coverage shown often... I get it.. but don't let it get in the way of looking at the big picture.. which is stopping teams from scoring.
I get it, 17 points on the road to this offense, not bad, but look at how those points were given up. those mistakes should not happen, especially the repeat offender with debo cruising to his 4th td in the last 4 games because ramsey was on the other side of the field. The ofense was the main culprit in this game, oline, sacks, too much focus on getting kupp the ball leading to pick 6, but the defense can't allow 7 yards per play to a rusty and "fatigued" arm of jimmy g, jeff wilson running the ball against last years leading tackler in wagner, and behind no gaines and AD. Denver held them to 10 points and I think we're better.
 

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I'm not nearly as negative about the team as many here but Home Field Advantage?

I would not expect much there. Not with Cowboys and Niners fans at SoFi.
This makes me so sad because it's true. I wish LA showed up for it's teams more. It's frustrating seeing opponents having an advantage in SoFi. Same crap that used to happen at Edward Jones Dome back in the day. So frustrating!
 

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This makes me so sad because it's true. I wish LA showed up for it's teams more. It's frustrating seeing opponents having an advantage in SoFi. Same crap that used to happen at Edward Jones Dome back in the day. So frustrating!
It’s kind of embarrassing that a home team sometimes needs to go with a silent count on offense.
 

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I get it, 17 points on the road to this offense, not bad, but look at how those points were given up. those mistakes should not happen, especially the repeat offender with debo cruising to his 4th td in the last 4 games because ramsey was on the other side of the field. The ofense was the main culprit in this game, oline, sacks, too much focus on getting kupp the ball leading to pick 6, but the defense can't allow 7 yards per play to a rusty and "fatigued" arm of jimmy g, jeff wilson running the ball against last years leading tackler in wagner, and behind no gaines and AD. Denver held them to 10 points and I think we're better.

Well.. of course those mistakes shouldn't happen. What was the mistake on defense that lead to the cascade of shit on the Deebo TD? It was a rookie making a play on the ball instead of the player. Who knows.. if he hits Deebo, maybe Deebo doesn't make the catch.. we saw that happen with Scott. Was that a coaching point? Or just bad execution? Because the player WAS IN THE RIGHT SPOT TO MAKE THE PLAY.

As for whether the Rams D is better than the Broncos? Right now? Who knows? I know it's not constructed the same way... Broncos have two very good outside pass rushers.. the Rams have none.

Statistically, there's no comparison.. Broncos D ranks much higher in both yards and points.
 

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Doesn't fucking matter boys. It's preseason with a depleted line. It is what it is.

We're not getting a first-round bye. If we can accept that, then we can accept that our record doesn't matter as long as we get into the playoffs. Then it's anyone's game.

If anything we should be grateful to have good competition to sharpen our blade on.

:sunglasses:
 

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Well.. of course those mistakes shouldn't happen. What was the mistake on defense that lead to the cascade of shit on the Deebo TD? It was a rookie making a play on the ball instead of the player. Who knows.. if he hits Deebo, maybe Deebo doesn't make the catch.. we saw that happen with Scott. Was that a coaching point? Or just bad execution? Because the player WAS IN THE RIGHT SPOT TO MAKE THE PLAY.

As for whether the Rams D is better than the Broncos? Right now? Who knows? I know it's not constructed the same way... Broncos have two very good outside pass rushers.. the Rams have none.

Statistically, there's no comparison.. Broncos D ranks much higher in both yards and points.

thats what im saying; if ramsey is on debo, the rookie doesnt have the opportunity to make the mistake. All of debo's tds aghainst the rams have been when ramsey is not covering him. Debo has been the ram killer over that time so why not have ramsey on him 100% of the time. It might not work, but fuck, 6 straight regular season losses against these fuckers tells me it's worth a shot.
 

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thats what im saying; if ramsey is on debo, the rookie doesnt have the opportunity to make the mistake. All of debo's tds aghainst the rams have been when ramsey is not covering him. Debo has been the ram killer over that time so why not have ramsey on him 100% of the time. It might not work, but fuck, 6 straight regular season losses against these fuckers tells me it's worth a shot.
Because it makes it that much easier to attack a defense.

Also… ummm remember what happened when Ramsey was “covering” Deebo on that 4th Quarter drive in week 18?

And… did Deebo get the tying TD?

Lining up on a guy 100% of the time doesn’t happen in the NFL anymore…. Especially when an offense can move a guy like Deebo around.. think about how the Rams make it impossible to do that to Kupp,
 

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It makes me wonder about the evaluation process in determining our starters. Everything we've seen of Jackson since he was pressed into service indicates he should be on the field, and I agree that Shelton is better than Allen too.

Some players are just better on Sundays
 

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Which doesnt help on Monday Night Football....
That is why The Rams lost . Malcom Brown didn’t play on Sunday like you said. All us posters had as good of a chance to have played.
The FACT he is on the practice squad is another thing though.He was available to play any day of the week The Rams we’re.
Love the perception & insight though. Posters will be negative all year long which makes the regular season more tangible.
 

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Doesn't fucking matter boys. It's preseason with a depleted line. It is what it is.

We're not getting a first-round bye. If we can accept that, then we can accept that our record doesn't matter as long as we get into the playoffs. Then it's anyone's game.

If anything we should be grateful to have good competition to sharpen our blade on.

:sunglasses:

Why can’t we get a first round bye? Who in the NFC is playing head and shoulders above our depleted team?
Outside of the Eagles-who haven’t played anyone we are right in the mix. Our talent and coaching measures up with anyone and eventually we will get healthy.

There’s no way we shouldn’t go into the bye at 4-2 and we will get some guys back after that. I’m not sweating anything right now.