Robert Woods Traded to Titans

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We would have to be stupid to trade Woods.

Of course it would make the Tutu pick look better...
 

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We would have to be stupid to trade Woods.

Of course it would make the Tutu pick look better...

I do realize that the Rams WR Position is getting kind of crowded and that the Rams are really tight with their salary cap situation BUT I will sure be very disappointed if Robert Woods is not a Ram this coming season(s)!!!
 

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We aren't trading Woods. Not a smart move at all when our WR corps got so decimated last year that it almost cost us the Superbowl.
Especially considering two are coming off ACLs and both are 30.
They other two are not rookies either.

Then consider what that Super Bowl or even playoffs looks like if the Rams had Robinson last year.
We would have to be stupid to trade Woods.

Of course it would make the Tutu pick look better...
The only thing that could possibly make that pick look better is if TuTu ends up becoming an above average receiver.

Powell contributed more to the team than Atwell did
 

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I find it interesting that robinson is the youngest among woods/obj/Kupp/Robinson (they are all about the same age, but still). Feels like he has been in the league forever. Guess not.
 

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Yeah, they were hung up on his precision route running with Jefferson, and with Atwell they were trying to get the speed guy like they had in Cooks.

I still think Atwell could have a roll in the offense... Even if just initially a small roll as an occasional deep threat & a jet sweep here or there.
Nothing against your post. After reading it I thought about Kupp’s fourth down sweep. Thank Gawd it was him and not Atwell. I just don‘t feel Atwell will turn into anything more than a gadget guy. Those guys fail because the defense knows a gadget play is coming.

Sorry for the rant off your post, nothing against you or your post!
 

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Rams owe Robert Woods a roster bonus on Sunday, will he still be on the Rams by then?

Bonuses often incite transactions before they kick in
By Kenneth Arthur@KennethArthuRS Mar 19, 2022

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If I have learned anything over the last two years of writing at this website, it is that people do not like it when you mention the possibility of trading Robert Woods. Unfortunately, the possibility that Woods and the LA Rams are heading for a separation has grown more likely by the week since he tore his ACL on November 13 of last year.

Since that time, Odell Beckham Jr. made his Rams debut and took flight in the postseason, giving the team a glimpse of what life on offense without Woods could still like if Matthew Stafford had a different great receiver, and then Les Snead signed Allen Robinson to a contract on Thursday. That signing came three days before L.A. was obligated to pay Woods a $3.5 million roster bonus, which is now due in less than 24 hours.

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Will the Rams pay it, trade Woods, or release him before it kicks in?

By cutting Woods on Saturday, L.A. would save $3.6 million and have $12.1 million in dead money in 2022, $6.4 million in 2023, and $4.2 million in 2024. The release would come less than two years after the Rams signed Woods to a four-year, $65 million extension at the age of 28. Like Jared Goff, Todd Gurley, and Brandin Cooks, Snead would be cutting or trading Woods before his extension even started. The team would also still have $2 million in dead money on the cap in 2025.

By trading Woods, the cap gets a little more friendly. The team would save $7.1 million in 2022, but the dead money in 2023, 2024, and 2025 would remain the same.

Is there a team interested in trading for Robert Woods and accepting his contract though? The acquiring team would not only have to pay Woods’ $3.5 million bonus tomorrow, they would also have to pay a $10 million base salary in 2022 and $13.75 million in 2023. That would essentially mean that Woods is a top-20 paid WR to his new team in 2022 and most likely a top-10 paid WR in 2023.

Essentially, Woods would only be slightly less expensive than 2021 Offensive Player of the Year Cooper Kupp. And Woods is turning 30 in April, tore his ACL in November, and as fantastically talented as he truly is, has never made a Pro Bowl, a first or second-team All-Pro roster, and never caught more than six touchdowns in a season.

These are merely accolades but could a team justify giving up anything in return to pay over $23 million in salary for the next two seasons when Woods has three fewer career 1,000-yard seasons than someone like Amari Cooper—traded to the Browns last week for merely a fifth round pick and a sixth round pick swap?

Woods would presumably need to be traded to a team that a) could afford him, b) is desperate for a receiver, and c) has faith in his knee, no concerns about his age.

The Seahawks employ Shane Waldron, a person very familiar with Woods, but exist in the NFC West and might not be contenders right now.

The Chargers employ Brandon Staley and have $27 million in cap space, but just signed Mike Williams to a three-year, $60 million contract.

The Saints just went through hell and back to get under the 2022 cap, would they now commit $10 million to a receiver when they failed to land their next starting quarterback? No.

So if the Rams are only down to one or two teams, like the Jets and Steelers, and it gets around the league that there isn’t a strong trade market for Woods, then would either bid against themselves? Or would they simply wait to see if L.A. releases Woods and then bids to sign him to a new, less expensive deal that doesn’t require trading any picks?

I would be surprised if Robert Woods is traded today. So is Snead overly concerned about avoiding the $3.5 million roster bonus and $3.5 million in guaranteed 2022 salary, leaving a $12.1 million dead cap hit this season if he releases Woods?

That’s what we’ll find out... I just know that if he does, it won’t be popular.
 

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Who says Stafford didn't gel with Woods?? Talking heads? Yeah Woods did voice that he wanted to be thrown to more but it's not like Stafford can't gel with anyone especially an all around team player like Woods. He just saw how smart like a QB Kupp was and discussed more Xs and Os with him.

Would like to keep Woods... but I get if if the Rams trade him for a positional need.
Somebody claims Woods isn't "the type" of receiver who meshes with Stafford as much as ARobinson will. Whatever. Kupp caught 75.9% of the balls Stafford threw him and we'd all agree, Kupp has great hands. So does OBJ and he caught 56.5% of the passes Stafford threw him. Woods caught 65.2% and VJ 56.2%. Robinson has played in Jacksonville and Chicago, with a variety of QBs, none as good as Stafford and the best he's done is 67.5% in 2020 (with Trubisky). He had a 57.5% with Fields (understandable) but from 2015 to 2019....missing all but one game of 2017....he had 52.9%, 48.3%, 58.5% and 63.6%. But he's supposed to be great at contested balls. Besides all that, Woods is an 8.6mil cap hit if traded prior to June 1st with a savings of 7.1mil.....a minus 1.5 mil net. Now does trading him sound like a wise move? It may be, now that they have Stafford (and his deal will get restructured and extended prior to Sept) McVay and Snead don't want to be caught short handed at WR, like in 2018, 2019 and 2021 (if not for the great fortune of OBJ coming available....don't want to bank on that type of event in the future). Any way you slice it, it's hard to make trading Robert Woods a good move. But those guys are a lot smarter than I am.
 

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I will be very happy if woods gets his bonus tomorrow because then I know they have a plan for edge and CB without having to sacrifice our beloved receiver. With hunter seemingly out of the picture, per schefter, I still think there's a chance woods is traded to acquire gilmore or other CB. As much as I love having Robert in the building, edge and CB seem the higher priorities than our 3rd receiving option. And remember, last season there were rumblings that woods wasn't happy with the lack of targets because stafford was dialed into kupp. Well, I think that situation only gets worse with Arob on the team because robert has never had to be the 3rd guy.
 

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I will be very happy if woods gets his bonus tomorrow because then I know they have a plan for edge and CB without having to sacrifice our beloved receiver. With hunter seemingly out of the picture, per schefter, I still think there's a chance woods is traded to acquire gilmore or other CB. As much as I love having Robert in the building, edge and CB seem the higher priorities than our 3rd receiving option. And remember, last season there were rumblings that woods wasn't happy with the lack of targets because stafford was dialed into kupp. Well, I think that situation only gets worse with Arob on the team because robert has never had to be the 3rd guy.
Didn't Rochell "impress them"? I don't know if the team reporters said that or the coaching staff. And Long came on towards the end of the season. I'd agree Edge is a hole with just Floyd and either TLew, Hollins or Garrett (another kid who impressed). But as far as the lack of targets, is Robinson going to be the #1? He's been a #1 his entire career. Targeted over 150 times 4 of his 8 seasons, grabbing 353 balls for 4680 yards those 4 years with 33 TDs. How's he going to adjust to non-#1 status? Woods has been the #2 or #1a with Kupp so he's used to playing other roles.....like run blocking and running the ball. I don't think RW would have a problem with another WR around. More likely to take more from Jefferson than Woods.
 

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Didn't Rochell "impress them"? I don't know if the team reporters said that or the coaching staff. And Long came on towards the end of the season. I'd agree Edge is a hole with just Floyd and either TLew, Hollins or Garrett (another kid who impressed). But as far as the lack of targets, is Robinson going to be the #1? He's been a #1 his entire career. Targeted over 150 times 4 of his 8 seasons, grabbing 353 balls for 4680 yards those 4 years with 33 TDs. How's he going to adjust to non-#1 status? Woods has been the #2 or #1a with Kupp so he's used to playing other roles.....like run blocking and running the ball. I don't think RW would have a problem with another WR around. More likely to take more from Jefferson than Woods.

I hope rochell impressed them enough to not chase gilmore, howard, or patrick, we just don't know. If that's the case, then bring in wagner and lets see the best rush defense we've had since forever. Our LB's seem to be young, promising, but injury prone, so what is the answer for that. Me, I like wagner if hunter if off the table. He can make all of them better players for us after only one year. As for robinson, he's not worried about being 1a or 1b. He knows kupp is going to get him more one n ones because he's never been opposite a guy like cooper with the covergae he demands. He should be very excited about his production this year. I expect both to get double digit td's and at least 1500 yards in what will be one of, if not the best combined statistical years for 2 starting WR's.
 

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But as far as the lack of targets, is Robinson going to be the #1? He's been a #1 his entire career. Targeted over 150 times 4 of his 8 seasons, grabbing 353 balls for 4680 yards those 4 years with 33 TDs. How's he going to adjust to non-#1 status? Woods has been the #2 or #1a with Kupp so he's used to playing other roles.....like run blocking and running the ball. I don't think RW would have a problem with another WR around. More likely to take more from Jefferson than Woods.

I hadn't thought about targets? A good question.

Staford threw 601 times completing 404 passes. He could throw even more in 2022.

Kupp had a whopping 191 targets with 145 catches. That's almost one-third of the targets to Kupp. For Kupp's health, he can't be getting nearly that many targets in 2022.

I imagine if they keep Woods they would cut Jefferson's targets. I'm not going to guess how many each gets right now. Here is a link to last year's receiving numbers. I think the Rams are smart enough to spread the ball around a little more evenly. Stafford's dependence on Kupp would be a detriment should Kupp get injured and his career longevity. I see the targets get spread more evenly with Kupp still number 1 with Robinson and Woods 2A and 2B. Woods could be given more short passes/smoke screens and runs.


 

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So no news... Please Les... don't do it...
 

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We threw 39 more passes to WRs than any year under McVay. 5% more than any other year. The first two years we threw to RBs 19.8% and 18%. Since 10%, 12.6 and 12.6. TEs went 17.3% in 2017, 15.6%, 25.6%, 22.4% and 15.6 last year. The percentages for our 2 SB years:

WR: 71.8% in 2021, 66.5% (2nd highest of 5) in 2018
TE: 15.6% in 2021, 15.6% in 2018
RB: 12.6% in 2021, 18.0% in 2018

We could have 5 good receivers on this team and give them enough balls
 

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Woods is a good player. So the question here is whether they can afford to pay a WR3. If they can everyone will be fine with it. If they can't fans gonna be mad but it's business.