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Nah this is fine we need to just accept it and be silent.
The actual numbers to be silent a out.
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You are not alone Bruddah. You'd have to beat be to the punch as they say if you'd want to get the first Crack in on Benovich. I'd also have a number of choice words to share with him after I jacked-up his face with much more than a bitch slap. That guy believes he is immune to any consequences and above all others. People like that are in desperate need of an "eye opening" reality check. The mother fucker needs to be knocked the fuck off of his imaginary high horse. There are a number of others who believe they are The Show too instead of the game and the players.
Especially Benovich... Hopefully I spelled it wrong. That pos wouldn't be safe anywhere close to me. I'm old enough to know better, but growing up in The 808 also taught me that throwing hands isn't always bad. In fact, sometimes it's inexcusable NOT TO THROW HANDS. Just don't permanently hurt someone or worse.
You can give em a few bitch slaps after I Crack em just to drive the point home! We'll work as a team lol! You're definitely not alone... but we're some of the few proud cavemen left Bruddah.
Refs have a tough job. Mistakes will happen. You can disagree with a call or an official, but threats against them are way over the top and not setting a good example.
NFL suspends officials Jeff Seeman, Adrian Hill for conduct toward players
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...cials-jeff-seeman-adrian-hill-conduct-players
NFL refs are the worst. They have a huge ego. Think they're untouchable. Want to be noticed. Don't care if they get calls wrong. The only reason the NFL is holding them accountable is the unprofessionalism. Not the poor job they do on the field.
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Same here. I know it's sad but I have seen " BRAND NEW DAY" 3 times
Freakin - Jonathan Bernthal as the Punisher put this Spidey flick at the absolute top
for me. Bernthal quickly became one of my faves after seeing The Accountant 1-2.
love the new Black Widow and Zendaya is hands down my favorite Spidey girlfriend whether it's
MJ OR Gwen. Geez I guess I had better shut up. This ain't a spidey thread.
Anyway, Cheers Memento. Have a Great Night.
Back during the covid lockdowns I binged all the Marvel defender series on Netflix. The Punisher, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Luke Cage. The Punisher was my favorite followed closely by Daredevil. There have been Punisher movies before the series. But Jon Bernthal was by far the best.
It shows the derangement of the NFL owners that they care more about optics than they do complete fucking incompetence by their officials.
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Puka was right! Fuck these bitches. Zero accountability means we have to deal with this bullshit all year long.
Don't forget The Walking Dead. That's where I really saw him first, and he absolutely knocked it out of the park playing Shane. Thomas Jane played a great Punisher as well, but I love Bernthal's the most.
I'm just a superhero nerd, both Marvel and DC. I watched Batman: The Animated Series, Batman Beyond, Static Shock, and Teen Titans - the original, not that abomination known as "Go" - as a kid and young teen, and like Snacks, I also binge-watched all of the Defenders in my free time, along with a fuckton of Marvel movies and miniseries (especially the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy; one of the best trilogies of all time in any movie series, as well as the X-Men, Deadpool, Venom, and Spider-Man/SpiderVerse movies).
Also loved the occasional DC movies for the most part, Batman, in particular. Yes, the Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy is one of my favs, but Robert Pattinson was also surprisingly good as an analytical and intelligent actual-detective Batman. Loved Henry Cavill as Superman as well in the first movie (even though every other movie featuring him was an immense disappointment in every way, especially compared to the Avengers. DC made the mistake of not building up all of the characters before they became a team like Marvel did and instead went for the big enchilada and failed. Also, in Batman vs. Superman, Affleck's Batman was basically Punisher in a weird suit (the no-guns/no-killing rule got totally thrown out the window, which took away from everything that made Batman...well, Batman.), which made me really hate the movie. The Joker movies were some of the least favorite movies I ever watched (and my eyes all but bled at the second).
I even based a Pokemon fanfic deuteragonist character more than a fair bit on Zatanna (who is normally from the Constantine series, except she's also a secret detective consultant for the Justice League, an ally of Batman, and a stage magician in her normal day job, if anyone's curious), except my character has way less OP powers than Zatanna and less control over her powers when negative emotions come to the fray (sort of like Raven). ...What can I say? Stage magician magic is sooo much fun to play with.
Sorry for the huge off-topic rambling; I can nerd out when it comes to superheroes/superheroines/comic book people with superpowers all day long.
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Fuck you, tell your members to be better at their job.
The NFL demands accountability. How much is it willing to accept?
Several recent on-field incidents have offered a reminder of the imbalance inherent in the NFL.
www.nytimes.com
By Jourdan Rodrigue
Oct. 6, 2026
When I saw the video of NFL line judge Jeff Seeman directing what appeared to be an angry profanity toward Arizona Cardinals tight end Trey McBride during Sunday’s game, my first reaction was shock. (Not because of the language; if you’re around football at all, you’re going to hear some language.)
Players and coaches argue with officials all the time — some coaches are notorious for it. Coaches and players can be flagged or otherwise penalized at that official’s discretion. How many times have we seen clips of a coach screaming at a sideline judge, headset askew and spittle spraying, before that official, stone-faced, throws a yellow flag into the air?
To see an official cursing at a player, though … that virtually never happens. Until it seems like it did.
Seeman has been suspended for two games, the NFL said on Monday. Another official, Adrian Hill, was also suspended for one game after a separate incident in Sunday’s Vikings-Dolphins game, during which Minnesota linebacker Eric Wilson appeared to accidentally run into Hill after a play. It looked like Wilson tried to help Hill up, and Hill reacted animatedly in response. A league source, who was granted anonymity because they were not cleared to speak publicly on the matter, specified that both suspensions are without pay. The league said both suspensions were for “an instance of unprofessional conduct,” on which point many would agree.
And sure, credit to the NFL for acting swiftly on the matter. But what else was the league going to do? The video created accountability. You know, the thing the league makes sure the players face when it comes to officiating or even touchdown celebrations.
Is NFL officiating getting worse?
Mike Sando
My second thought, after seeing the video of McBride and Seeman, was: What if there were no camera around to catch the incident? Would Seeman still be held accountable? Or would this just turn into another story swapped between players, coaches and officials — all of whom can speak to the intense emotions of a game, and the outbursts those emotions yield?
That camera forced the NFL to take a genuine look at a moment when the discrepancy between what the league allows for some, but prohibits for others, was on full display.
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NFL suspends 2 officials for conduct toward Cardinals’ Trey McBride, Vikings’ Eric Wilson
Line judge Jeff Seeman has been suspended two games and referee Adrian Hill one game for the incidents.
Players and coaches are fined by the NFL when they publicly criticize referees. If an organization disagrees or wants clarity from the league on certain calls, it has to submit them for review and response. That is the only course of action; it’s hardly a soothing one. It might make things worse, as in a notable case last week when Los Angeles Rams head coach Sean McVay said the league told him that, upon review, a controversial pass interference call that held significant weight in a loss to the Denver Broncos was actually incorrect. McVay was responding to a question posed by local reporters. The league’s own response? To share a not-so-subtle memo reminding clubs that such conversations between teams and officials are to remain confidential.
I.e., “we may have gotten it wrong, but don’t you dare talk about it.” And had McBride engaged in a hostile manner with the official (either to prompt the incident, or in response), he would likely be the one subject to an in-game or retroactive league penalty. (CBS sideline reporter Aditi Kinkhabwala, who was standing nearby during the entire interaction, said that McBride did not curse at Seeman. The Cardinals declined to comment when asked about the sequence of events.)
In Minnesota, all Wilson could do was appear to try, and fail, to explain the innocent nature of the collision to Hill, and then walk away. On to the next play. The NFL’s system working as designed — by the NFL.
Officiating is a really difficult and brutally public part-time profession. The people who do it truly love it, because otherwise why subject themselves to the ire of at least one-half of a stadium each week? It is a human craft, and therefore inevitably flawed. And so I do believe there have to be some boundaries in place to protect officials from unnecessary criticism from fans and organizations; however, the players and coaches draw the short straw here when they can’t say anything in disagreement.
This is the imbalanced system the league has installed: The referees officiate the games, the players and coaches don’t like some of their calls but can’t say so or change them and the NFL makes decisions for profit that make everyone’s jobs harder.
In September, the league fined San Francisco 49ers fullback Kyle Juszczyk, Indianapolis Colts guard Matt Goncalves, Dallas Cowboys tight end Jake Ferguson and Denver Broncos guard Quinn Meinerz, among others, for their celebrations. The NFL’s code of conduct is collectively bargained with the NFL Players Association, but the nature of these supposed infractions stood out.
Meinerz said the fine came because he mimicked a dice roll, which the league called an illegal celebration. Juszczyk and Goncalves both celebrated by pretending to drink a beverage. Juszczyk, whose nickname is “Juice” and who has long celebrated by drinking out of an imaginary juice carton, said the league told him he was imitating drinking a beer — which he has denied. Goncalves didn’t deny the nature of his pretend beverage, but aptly noted that the NFL itself is partnered with Bud Light (and has been since 2011).
Kyle Juszczyk celebrates after scoring a touchdown against the Miami Dolphins in Week 2 of the 2026 season.Ezra Shaw / Getty Images
The NFL used words like “offensive demonstration” to categorize some of the gestures. This, despite profiting from its beer partnership. This, despite having commercial agreements with multiple sportsbooks, each of which can say it is an “official sportsbook of the NFL.”
The league doesn’t want its players to hint at anything involving beer or gambling but instead to pantomime a perfect game, all while it crawls into bed with imperfect entities. It doesn’t want its officials criticized by players or coaches, even while it directly associates with a gambling industry that incites more pressure from the public than ever on them all.
Sunday, that sideline camera gave everyone a look at a small moment of inequity: what an official appeared to do when he thought nobody was looking, involving a player who wouldn’t be allowed to complain about it.
But it was just a reminder of the bigger system at work, one that goes beyond referees and fines and eventually broadens to every corner of the NFL. It’s a system that often says it wants to partner with players but can never authentically do so when it assigns them different standards from its own, then actually partners with entities that reduce players to product.
Will the NFL ever offer to turn that camera on itself? Will it even care about what it might see?
Jourdan Rodrigue is a senior NFL writer for The Athletic. Previously, she covered the Los Angeles Rams for The Athletic, the Carolina Panthers for The Athletic and The Charlotte Observer, and Penn State football for the Centre Daily Times. She is an ASU grad, a recipient of the PFWA's Terez A. Paylor Emerging Writer award (2021) and the creator of "The Playcallers" and "Finding Rams" series.
S-Jax would be pissed that his signature celebration would be called "illegal".
I also think it's bullshit, especially considering how closely and intimately in bed the league is with gambling and alcohol. What next? Ban fake cigar smoking for a touchdown celebration? Ban gun and bow-and-arrow motions (oh, wait, they already did for the latter with Cooks!) for first downs?
Just let the players celebrate how they wish; that's who the fans go to see, anyway. Fucking hell, nobody who even goes to the games gives a shit, except for the biggest Puritan prudes - and they have their own issues that suck, and nobody with a brain gives a shit about what they think. And if someone says, "Think of the children!", I'll remind them that kids do tend to grow up as they get older and that they shouldn't idolize or copy the players rather than the people in their lives (unless the people suck) anyway.
Good on Jourdan to write that column; it's apparently fucking necessary when it comes to the bullshit with the refs, the league, and the players/coaches and the unbalanced power dynamics when it comes to the league defending the refs with their lives and all of the bullshit that players can't get away with when the NFL are being complete hypocrites.
I call bullshit.
Iv'e seen those jakeleg fucks confer about an offsides call, or 5 seconds on the fucking clock, or 6" on ball placement (not first down), so I don't want to hear "they're human" bs.
They have a fucking agenda - see Patriots first SB.
Fucks.
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