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First 2 seasons are top tier, before show runner Frank Darabont was shoved aside greedily. I can go 4 seasons then no more.
Yeah I went 5 seasons until I found out the cure was a fraud.
 
Here is one problem that could arise with all the negative media attention on the refs. Circling the wagons. There have been times when one refs throws a flag, another had a better view. They confer and pick up the flag. That probably won't happen now. They will have each other's backs.

The ref who was behind the play and didn't have a clear view threw the flag on Wallace. The other ref had a clear view. Was not gonna throw a flag because he knew it wasn't PI. But he didn't tell the other guy what he saw. He had the other guy's back. We might see more of that now. Like the cops have the Blue Wall of Silence its gonna be the Striped Wall of Silence.
 
Thought this was interesting and belonged here because a lot of people are questioning the refs calls and how they relate to the integrity of the game.

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NFL asks U.S. Supreme Court to take up prediction market case​

The NFL is urging the U.S. Supreme Court to take up a hotly contested legal battle over prediction markets, arguing that the federal regulatory body overseeing the burgeoning industry may not be equipped to protect the integrity of sports.
 
NFL owner integrity?

dennis weening lol GIF by SBS6
 
The other ref had a clear view. Was not gonna throw a flag because he knew it wasn't PI.
If anything, it was OPI for grabbing and pulling Wallace's shoulder pad while the ball was in play, and I initially thought that was the call. It was right in front of the ref.
 
Thought this was interesting and belonged here because a lot of people are questioning the refs calls and how they relate to the integrity of the game.

Link to full article.

NFL asks U.S. Supreme Court to take up prediction market case​

The NFL is urging the U.S. Supreme Court to take up a hotly contested legal battle over prediction markets, arguing that the federal regulatory body overseeing the burgeoning industry may not be equipped to protect the integrity of sports.
 
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Yeah, I'll gladly be classless on this. Like I mentioned, all that Puritan shit should stay in the 1600s where it belongs, and children aren't forever innocent and something to smother and protect; a lot of them grow up early and are far more mature than parents know and know far more than parents think they do. I think it's a bullshit excuse, saying "Think of the children!" like the children are innocent little angels (and no, they aren't; they're human just like anyone else).

None of them should be idols for kids, much like music artists and movie stars or anyone other than family (of all kinds - if not birth parents, then found family) should be learned from. If kids are taking lessons from famous people who aren't their parents and can be assholes, well, it's not good, to put it very lightly.

And my main point (by the by, way to completely ignore everything I said and harp on this one point that barely has anything to do with what I was saying)? It's that we're talking about football players and athletes as a whole celebrating. They should be able to celebrate without consequences or fines and shit; if opposing players hate what they're doing so much, then they should try to beat them on the next play they have against them. Don't like it? Pity. Can't stop them? Tough shit.

So yeah, politely speaking, I will fucking judge much, especially on this, please and thank you.

Anger issues. Get some help.
 
I was watching a replay of the Rams iggles game last night. At about 5:30 left in the game, Stafford gets hit helmet to his chest with no call. Then Stafford gets hit out of bounds no call. Even the announcer said he's seen a whole lot less get called a personal foul.

And I almost lost my sh*t when Brady said the refs shouldn't throw a flag against philly's out of bounds hit again Stafford. He says the game is tight and the refs need to let em play. I think Mr. Brady was the biggest "whiner" of all time when he was playing. Not to mention Mr. Brady got away with a lot of calls that later needed rule changes.
 
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The Justice League movie was ok. Or at least I thought so, until I saw the
4hr long Zack Snyder’s exclusive director’s cut. Otherwise called The Justice League Black.
I was freakin blown away. How can one movie, basically the same movie be so different.
Zack Snyder took what I would rate a 6.5 /10 , and turn it into a 10/10. On top of all that
I HATE long movies. It never felt like a 4hr movie. I'm still in unbelief. lol.

Same here. Never got into The Walking Dead. Just not my gig. Though I probably would watch the episodes that Bernthal
is heavily involved. Enjoyed the convo Memento. cheers

Never saw the Snyder one. Maybe seeing it would change my mind, but honestly, DC should've done what Marvel did and introduced those characters for their own separate movies before going big and pretty much swinging and missing with the theater release (and not using the exclusive director's cut). I don't mind longer movies, so long as they're good, and yes, maybe Cavill not playing Superman after this played a part, but still, it was...disappointing.

But yeah, love the conversation, Coach! Glad to talk to you and geek out about superheroes and superhero movies!
 
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Never saw the Snyder one. Maybe seeing it would change my mind, but honestly, DC should've done what Marvel did and introduced those characters for their own separate movies before going big and pretty much swinging and missing with the theater release (and not using the exclusive director's cut). I don't mind longer movies, so long as they're good, and yes, maybe Cavill not playing Superman after this played a part, but still, it was...disappointing.

But yeah, love the conversation, Coach! Glad to talk to you and geek out about superheroes and superhero movies!

Oh yeah, the Snyder cut makes all the difference. The other version is weak and incoherent. It was barely a 4/10 for me. The Snyder version has a coherent plot, a reason to give a shit about the outcome and even Gal Gadot, this generation’s Kristen Stewart, didn’t seem AS wooden and monotone. Solid 8.5/10 and competes well with the better Marvel movies.

Which is funny because after Twilight, Kristen Stewart was in a few things where I was shocked to really enjoy her performance, especially American Ultra. Gal Gadot has the range of a mannequin and the acting chops of a coma patient.
 
I was watching a replay of the Rams iggles game last night. At about 5:30 left in the game, Stafford gets hit helmet to his chest with no call. Then Stafford gets hit out of bounds no call. Even the announcer said he's seen a whole lot less get called a personal foul.

And I almost lost my sh*t when Brady said the refs shouldn't throw a flag against philly's out of bounds hit again Stafford. He says the game is tight and the refs need to let em play. I think Mr. Brady was the biggest "whiner" of all time when he was playing. Not to mention Mr. Brady got away with a lot of calls that later needed rule changes.
The hit to the chest was clean....he didn't drive him into the ground.
The "hit" out of bounds wasn't much a hit and he was still moving forward.
Im fine with no call on either.
What irks me with Stafford and the refs is we have seen over and over and hand to his helmet in the pocket and he never gets that call while other QBs do.
Brady talking about letting the defense play is beyond ironic and gross, I agree.
 
Here is one problem that could arise with all the negative media attention on the refs. Circling the wagons. There have been times when one refs throws a flag, another had a better view. They confer and pick up the flag. That probably won't happen now. They will have each other's backs.

The ref who was behind the play and didn't have a clear view threw the flag on Wallace. The other ref had a clear view. Was not gonna throw a flag because he knew it wasn't PI. But he didn't tell the other guy what he saw. He had the other guy's back. We might see more of that now. Like the cops have the Blue Wall of Silence its gonna be the Striped Wall of Silence.
Yep, this happens a lot.
Look how quickly the MLB umpires adjusted and don't bitch about ball/strike challenges.
There should be something similar for certain flags in the NFL.....if the refs don't like, who gives an F?
 
I think you're onto something!

Reduce the severity of "judgment" calls.

Take PI: college doesn't penalize to the spot of the foul - I think it's a flat 10 yards.
Do the same in the pros. A flat 10 yards on PI - no exceptions.

Teams (including the Rams) throw bombs 40-50 yards downfield with the hope that a PI will get called. 40-50 yards has a big impact on a drive and a game.

Make it 10 yards and see how things change!!
What would change is every single deep ball the WR would just be tackled if there is remotely a shot of a catch.....why wouldn't you just take the guy down? It wouldn't make sense not too. This would be a disaster by the second week it was implemented.
 
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