Rams working to extend Kyren’s contract

[RamsOfCastamere]

Corum and Kyren are similar backs but I think Kyren (right now) has better vision and hands.

 

[Ramstien]

My feeling is RBs should not be given a second contract unless they are future hall of famers, draft one ever other year.

 

[dieterbrock]

*If* Kyren didnt have a fumbling problem, I dont think there would be any doubts about an extension.
Other famous "ifs"
*If* Ron Goldman didnt decide to return Nicole Simpson's sunglasses
*If* The Lincoln's would have gone to the afternoon matinee
*If* Portland would have picked Michael Jordan instead of Sam Bowie

 

[dang]

I’ll go one step further. If Kyren didn’t fumble against the Eagles in the playoffs - I don’t think there would be any doubts about an extension. Even more if the Rams had won.

I’m still seeing Williams and Limmer being singled out for the loss. I don’t agree but it’s still fresh for many.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I THINK I love this comment.

Lots of wine first

 

[Flatlyner]

Would you take:

Jeanty or Kyren?

Hampton or Kyren?

Henderson or Kyren?

Judkins or Kyren?

Skattebo or Kyren?

Neal or Kyren?

Harvey or Kyren?

Where would Kyren rank if he was coming out this year?

With contract in mind, I'd take those top 4 over him without question. It gets murky after that IMO. Skattebo seems like a Kyren back, but, based on his one testing measure, may be more athletic and runs with more power. I do like Harvey and he has breakaway speed. Not that high on Neal.

 

[dieterbrock]

I know that it is only a 1 year deal but if Tutu gets 10 milly for a season, not sure my 6-8 assumption for Kyren will hold up

 

[Lunchbox]

A number of you have made good points in this thread. For the record, I did not say another back more talented than Kyren would not start on this team. All I said is it's been a rarity under McVay for rookies. Then again, we haven't made an investment during that time in a back the caliber of a Gurley, Saquon or a number of rookies at the top of the current draft class.
Kyren was a fifth round pick for a reason. He lacks home run speed and has issues with ball security. That said, he started and received the bulk of the snaps in his second season over Akers because of his willingness to pass block and rushing skills.

 

[Corbin]

The way I see it, Corum has more weave to his game, Kyren has more power with one cut. Also think Corum has more speed (as combine suggested). Also, I believe Corum led all RB's in bench at combine. Not that its a super important stat, but does suggest he may have more power then he has shown in his brief chances.

I fully believe if you gave Corum those 300+ carries like KW, he would produce similar numbers.

I agree with this assessment. As someone who watched Corum his whole career in college I can confirm he has some wiggle to his game and a bit of power when he needs it.

However, college is not the Pro’s and I await for him to show us what he can do.

I will say this 100% he is a lot like Kyren where the more carries they get the stronger, more in tune with the game play, and harder they get. They are grinders. They are the same type of back, people need to realize this.

You keep saying ‘I believe’, but so far we haven’t seen any of it.

I liked the pick but I thought we would see more instant production. RB is not a difficult position to transition to the NFL. Good backs can shine in their first season.

We didn’t see much of Kyren his first year either. However if I do remember right Blake’s average per carry was higher than Kyrens his first year comparing the two like for like.

Are you suggesting no rookie runningback comes into the league able to pass block?

The HOF’r Marshall Faulk states “Every back that comes into the league needs to work on pass blocking”

The reason being is a lot of skills transition but generally the concepts from college to pro pass blocking are different.

Are you going to trust more? A rookie RB or a RB with a ton of game action experience (3 years worth) on a crucial 3rd and 10 to save the season or on a game winning drive to pass block?

I’m hands down going with the RB with 3 years experience as our experienced coaching staff has done.

That said to add to it Corum didn’t have much pass blocking to do as you well know with the 37 straight runs vs PSU his Sr. Year, he didn’t pass blocking to much tbh.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I agree with this assessment. As someone who watched Corum his whole career in college I can confirm he has some wiggle to his game and a bit of power when he needs it.

However, college is not the Pro’s and I await for him to show us what he can do.

I will say this 100% he is a lot like Kyren where the more carries they get the stronger, more in tune with the game play, and harder they get. They are grinders. They are the same type of back, people need to realize this.

We didn’t see much of Kyren his first year either. However if I do remember right Blake’s average per carry was higher than Kyrens his first year comparing the two like for like.

The HOF’r Marshall Faulk states “Every back that comes into the league needs to work on pass blocking”

The reason being is a lot of skills transition but generally the concepts from college to pro pass blocking are different.

Are you going to trust more? A rookie RB or a RB with a ton of game action experience (3 years worth) on a crucial 3rd and 10 to save the season or on a game winning drive to pass block?

I’m hands down going with the RB with 3 years experience as our experienced coaching staff has done.

That said to add to it Corum didn’t have much pass blocking to do as you well know with the 37 straight runs vs PSU his Sr. Year, he didn’t pass blocking to much tbh.

If they took a guy like Hampton in round one, he’s playing.

 

[Corbin]

If they took a guy like Hampton in round one, he’s playing.

I agree 100%, but then again Hampton is a 3 down back out the gate and has Gurley like skills. Total difference in comparison.

 

[muggmeister]

Aaron Jones just resigned with the Vikes for 2 years, $20M. Tutu resigned for $10M for 1 year. What do you suppose we will give Kyren at this point? Is $12M a year the starting point? I hope the fuck not. I would much rather roll with Corum and almost any draft pick versus paying Kyren big money. I was always thinking they could bring him back at around $7-8M per year, now not so much. Also would rather not have considerable dead cap for a RB at the end of a contract when they are no longer with us. Thoughts?

 

[DzRams]

Aaron Jones just resigned with the Vikes for 2 years, $20M. Tutu resigned for $10M for 1 year. What do you suppose we will give Kyren at this point? Is $12M a year the starting point? I hope the fuck not. Thoughts?

I've been saying $12-$14m for some time...especially now that the salary cap has significantly increased.

 

[RamFan503]

From the last interview I saw with Kyren, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rams wait until after the season starts before they make an offer.

 

[muggmeister]

I've been saying $12-$14m for some time...especially now that the salary cap has significantly increased.

Would rather have Hampton at 26 with Corum than pay that. My 2 cents worth.

 

[DzRams]

Would rather have Hampton at 26 with Corum than pay that. My 2 cents worth.

I'd rather use 26 on a CB, draft a RB in the mid-rounds, and let KW walk. So yeah, I agree I don't want to pay those numbers.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I'd rather use 26 on a CB, draft a RB in the mid-rounds, and let KW walk. So yeah, I agree I don't want to pay those numbers.

I’d be fine if the RB was a good one.

I would be fine with the Rams trading up for someone they love. Jeanty, or Warren maybe.

 

[muggmeister]

There's no way we pay Kyren after the Adams signing, do we ?

 

[Wisconsinram]

If we pay Kyren 14 mil, which is what it will likely take (minimum, thanks to Barkley resetting the market) to resign him long-term, I'll be disappointed. And I really, really like him. It's just such a rb-rich draft with quality through round 5, I just hope we don't spend resources there when our young D is going to cost a ton down the road.
BTW, the one area he's truly excellent at is pass protection. That can't be understated with a 37 year old qb, so I get the interest. But my goodness, if he prices himself out, let's take the comp pick.

 

[PhillyRam]

If we pay Kyren 14 mil, which is what it will likely take (minimum, thanks to Barkley resetting the market) to resign him long-term, I'll be disappointed. And I really, really like him. It's just such a rb-rich draft with quality through round 5, I just hope we don't spend resources there when our young D is going to cost a ton down the road.
BTW, the one area he's truly excellent at is pass protection. That can't be understated with a 37 year old qb, so I get the interest. But my goodness, if he prices himself out, let's take the comp pick

McShay was talking about paying backs. I believe it was him. Mentioned RBs taken in the first rd, with a 5 yr deal, one franchise year, maybe a 2nd, and you can lock up a great RB for 7 yrs at a reasonable cost.

Of course the RB might not be happy with it, so that is left out of the equation, but it makes some sense if it's a great back.