Rams picking up Emmanuel Forbes on waivers

[PhillyRam]

Opposite of that. This guy is 6'1. He's like a daddy long legs spider.

Forbes in 8th grade...

 

[fearsomefour]

It is amazing how these football players have to put weight on. My son played Pop Warner with a kid that was a big kid, but not fat. Was a FB/TE in 6th grade. He went on to an elite private high school and put on weight to be an All Area OG. He was 6-3 280lbs. Signed a letter of intent to go to William & Mary. He never went. My son saw him a year later at a local gym he was about 185 lbs and was playing in a weight limited league at UPenn.

He just didn't like carrying the weight. This kid had pedigree. He was related to Sean McDermott, who grew up locally to where I live.

In fact I can say Sean McDermott once attended a Pop Warner game, when he was the Eagles DB coach, and saw my son score a couple of TDs.

Unfortunately my kid was like Forbes. As a 5-8 130 lb 9th grader, he figured to stick with baseball and pass on football. As a senior he was still only 6-0, 160lbs soaking wet.

It was actually baseball players, pitchers specifically, I worked with.
Mostly to develop throwing velocity.
Baseball is a chronically undertrained sport.

 

[fearsomefour]

McVay and the Rams are probably the last team you want to see claim a high pick castoff.

What do you mean?

 

[fearsomefour]

The only positive with this guy is that he makes Tutu look huge when he stands next to him

Tutu bowing up....

 

[dang]

It was actually baseball players, pitchers specifically, I worked with.
Mostly to develop throwing velocity.
Baseball is a chronically undertrained sport.

In Virginia where I live baseball academies, travel/showcase teams and specialized lessons/training starts early for many kids/parents that buy into it (as early as 8 years old). Very expensive and time consuming but the promise of high school glory and college scholarships is quite the racket. Much earlier and expansive than football. Few if any kids get a 1/3 or 1/2 scholarship to a Division 1 college team only guaranteed year by year.

 

[fearsomefour]

In Virginia where I live baseball academies, travel/showcase teams and specialized lessons/training starts early for many kids/parents that buy into it (as early as 8 years old). Very expensive and time consuming but the promise of high school glory and college scholarships is quite the racket. Much earlier and expansive than football. Few if any kids get a 1/3 or 1/2 scholarship to a Division 1 college team only guaranteed year by year.

Same out West.
The truth is kids play waaaaaay too many games and train waaaaay too little.
Way, way too little training.

 

[Merlin]

What do you mean?

The Rams are one of the top coaching staffs in this league. So if you draft a player high and cut him, and he ends up with the Rams, there is a better chance you're going to look stupid than if he ended up with, say, the Browns.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

The Rams are one of the top coaching staffs in this league. So if you draft a player high and cut him, and he ends up with the Rams, there is a better chance you're going to look stupid than if he ended up with, say, the Browns.

My guess is Quinn won’t care if Forbes succeeds elsewhere. I don’t think Forbes fits what Quinn likes in a DB.

That’s likely the case for many teams too. Now that defenses have evolved to stop the pass and teams use multiple DBs more often, it’s even more important that the DBs can tackle. Especially against a team with a strong run game. Forbes isn’t a great fit for any NFL defense right now. Back in Deion’s day he would be a better fit.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Didn’t the Rams have a super skinny DB back in St. Louis? Was it Jeremetrius Butler?

 

[Merlin]

My guess is Quinn won’t care if Forbes succeeds elsewhere. I don’t think Forbes fits what Quinn likes in a DB.

That’s likely the case for many teams too. Now that defenses have evolved to stop the pass and teams use multiple DBs more often, it’s even more important that the DBs can tackle. Especially against a team with a strong run game. Forbes isn’t a great fit for any NFL defense right now. Back in Deion’s day he would be a better fit.

Well the way I think I would be fucking pissed if a first round player I cut before his second season was complete succeeded somewhere else.

Just like I am still pissed about Bettis.

 

[dang]

I’m local to Commode country. Local sports radio is all up the ass of Washington’s CBs. They want to cut starter St-Juste (3rd TD pick) and are replacing the other (2nd rd pick) with Marshawn Lattimore. Something is off in that room.

 

[PhillyRam]

It was actually baseball players, pitchers specifically, I worked with.
Mostly to develop throwing velocity.
Baseball is a chronically undertrained sport.

Yeah, saw that first hand. Lou Trevino, the pitcher for the A's & Yankees, grew up near us. My son worked out with him when my kid was a teenager and Lou got drafted. He threw in the low 90's in college. He worked with a guy who really worked on his mechanics and all of a sudden he got into the high 90's and put together a nice career before getting hurt last year

 

[fearsomefour]

Yeah, saw that first hand. Lou Trevino, the pitcher for the A's & Yankees, grew up near us. My son worked out with him when my kid was a teenager and Lou got drafted. He threw in the low 90's in college. He worked with a guy who really worked on his mechanics and all of a sudden he got into the high 90's and put together a nice career before getting hurt last year

The travel ball thing has really made this worse. It has always been bad, but, the travel ball thing has made it much worse.

 

[PhillyRam]

The travel ball thing has really made this worse. It has always been bad, but, the travel ball thing has made it much worse.

Well, him getting up in the high 90's made him a few million dollars.

 

[Psycho_X]

Some nice highlights of him at end of video, looks very sticky in coverage. I guess most of these were from rookie year. Wonder what it was about current defense that didn't click for him overall. Dan Quinn generally runs a type of defense that benefits speed and coverage skills which would be in Forbes favor.


View: https://x.com/wtframs/status/1864893798914113890

 

[dang]

Some nice highlights of him at end of video, looks very sticky in coverage. I guess most of these were from rookie year. Wonder what it was about current defense that didn't click for him overall. Dan Quinn generally runs a type of defense that benefits speed and coverage skills which would be in Forbes favor.


View: https://x.com/wtframs/status/1864893798914113890

Speaks well. Appears to have a good demeanor. Go EF Huntin’.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Some nice highlights of him at end of video, looks very sticky in coverage. I guess most of these were from rookie year. Wonder what it was about current defense that didn't click for him overall. Dan Quinn generally runs a type of defense that benefits speed and coverage skills which would be in Forbes favor.


View: https://x.com/wtframs/status/1864893798914113890

Quinn also values physicality and run defense. Look at the LoB DBs. They were bigger, more physical and good tacklers.

 

[Corbin]

Some nice highlights of him at end of video, looks very sticky in coverage. I guess most of these were from rookie year. Wonder what it was about current defense that didn't click for him overall. Dan Quinn generally runs a type of defense that benefits speed and coverage skills which would be in Forbes favor.


View: https://x.com/wtframs/status/1864893798914113890

Excited to see what our staff can do with him here. He seems like a mature guy and pretty level headed. Coupling him next season with another CB or two is going to be fun to watch.

 

[fearsomefour]

Well, him getting up in the high 90's made him a few million dollars.

We are talking about different things.
You are talking about someone with a high level of natural ability that worked with a coach teaching technique that helped him realize his talent.
Im talking about the average.
Very little development is done with the average player through travel ball.

 

[PhillyRam]

We are talking about different things.
You are talking about someone with a high level of natural ability that worked with a coach teaching technique that helped him realize his talent.
Im talking about the average.
Very little development is done with the average player through travel ball.

Well, depends on the coaching. My kid played a lot of travel ball and it helped him to not only learn to play the right way, but also gain confidence in his game and in himself. He went on to play college ball, only D3, but he excelled there and that confidence carried over into his schoolwork and into professional career. He has a great job and is doing very well.

Now, I did see bad stuff in travel ball/ tournaments etc... He was lucky in that he mostly had a good experience. There was one year where we tried an organization after his little league days ended and it was not great, but then we found a very good organization that was well run and had their priorities in order, was not expensive and seemed to really put the effort into skills & personal development.

I will add that I was a big believer in playing local ball as well. My kid still played Legion Baseball, especially after he committed to a college, so he ended his summer ball days playing with the kids he played with growing up from 9-13 yrs of age on his local little league teams and his HS teams.