Rams meeting with Jalen Milroe

[Flatlyner]

I'm not going to lie, Milroe would be fun on the Rams. He is also the only QB prospect that could be utilized this season in our offense (outside of an injury). A huge armed 4.3 athlete back there is appealing. He certainly needs time to learn the NFL game, but is immediately a threat to run when he steps on the field.

 

[dieterbrock]

One of the knocks on Daniel's last year in the draft was how little he threw over the middle. Turns out he's been able to do it more and successfully in the NFL.

A good example of a guy getting dinged for not showing something but learning to do it anyways.

Which is why you cant be hung up on the "experts" opinions
They arent paid to be right, they are paid by people reading them

 

[WestCoastRam]

Which is why you cant be hung up on the "experts" opinions
They arent paid to be right, they are paid by people reading them

Sure but I also don't see why one can't pay attention to smart people with well reasoned examinations or a track record of being accurate and use that data to inform one's opinion (these people seem to care more about being accurate than who reads and if you're good, accuracy will drive readership anyways).

And if I can watch a little tape in there that isn't a highlight reel, more the better!

 

[WestCoastRam]

Better QB and draft by the consensus media ratings yes. Takes years to really know.

While teams do a not so great job analyzing individual players, most do an actually very good job analyzing draft strengths in the aggregate.

Predictions of weak drafts and strong drafts have typically played out, especially at position groups. I think it's worth taking that into consideration if we're trying to predict what can happen.

Can we find a trader partner to trade down? Absolutely. Do I think it's likely given the makeup of this draft. No.

 

[gogoat1]

I'm not going to lie, Milroe would be fun on the Rams. He is also the only QB prospect that could be utilized this season in our offense (outside of an injury). A huge armed 4.3 athlete back there is appealing. He certainly needs time to learn the NFL game, but is immediately a threat to run when he steps on the field.

"immediately a threat to run when he steps on the field"
That is the problem.
In the end, it takes from the team.
Its the ultimate team game. Not about one player.
The "Mike Vick" experience does not work in the NFL.

 

[dieterbrock]

The "Mike Vick" experience does not work in the NFL.

Ever heard of Lamar Jackson?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I don't like the 29 fumbles, 4 losses last year with an Alabama team, or the missed throws. His 64% completion is way overblown if you actually watch his games. He is being compared to Justin Fields for a reason, great legs and scattershot arm. When is the last time an Alabama QB actually looked "bad". He was a product of their system, just like Fields at Ohio State, although Fields did throw 41 TDs his final season. I just don't think even McVay can fix field vision and accuracy issues. Like I said, go back and watch his games, when Bama lost it was directly due to QB play.

I think accuracy issues can be fixed through reps and developing muscle memory with proper mechanics. I don’t think vision and timing can be fixed.

Do any of these QBs really inspire you, outside the top two or three that aren’t likely to be there at 26?

If taken later, Milton could be brought in on short yardage, red zone run plays or trick plays where he throws deep because the defense plays close to the line because they fear his running ability. That could help the Rams this year.

 

[Ram Ts]

I want a QB who has the ability to extend the play and/or run.
Not a running QB.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Ever hear of Lamar Jackson?

Didn't he replace Jermaine when Michael's big brother went-off to start his solo career?

I think he is on the top-right ...

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Which is why you cant be hung up on the "experts" opinions
They arent paid to be right, they are paid by people reading them

Except the stats provided on that tweet are not opinion

 

[gogoat1]

Ever heard of Lamar Jackson?

That guy is lucky he has not been broken to bits a long time ago.
If you want to use him a QB model, good luck. Most humans are not made of granite.
Besides, do a search of Ravens Pro Bowl WRs. Not so many.
If your QB takes off and runs all the time, or has lots of designed QB runs...... it takes from your team in the end.
Show me all of Lamar's Super Bowl wins ?????????

 

[dieterbrock]

Except the stats provided on that tweet are not opinion

And stats can be presented to support one's "narrative"

 

[Merlin]

Ever heard of Lamar Jackson?

Out of how many running QBs. And he still doesn't have the title in spite of multiple seasons of having a top team around him.

Reading quickly and throwing the ball will always be faster than running the ball. Mobility has value but only if you can win from the pocket. If you can't win from the pocket in this league your career will likely be shortened and it will be harder to win those big games when you run into a defense that shuts down the run game.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

One of the knocks on Daniel's last year in the draft was how little he threw over the middle. Turns out he's been able to do it more and successfully in the NFL.

A good example of a guy getting dinged for not showing something but learning to do it anyways.

Yup, that cart says shit. Defenses are better, coverages disguised better, quicker pressure, etc. We shall eventually see who's good though lol

 

[El Chapo Jr]

 

[dieterbrock]

Out of how many running QBs. And he still doesn't have the title in spite of multiple seasons of having a top team around him.

Reading quickly and throwing the ball will always be faster than running the ball. Mobility has value but only if you can win from the pocket. If you can't win from the pocket in this league your career will likely be shortened and it will be harder to win those big games when you run into a defense that shuts down the run game.

Jalen Hurts?
How many Superbowls has Burrow won?

 

[Memphis Ram]

If not for this last Super Bowl, Jalen Hurts would be added to the same no title argument that folks use with Vick and Jackson.

But my follow up question would be if their skillset are the reason that they don't have titles, then please explain why perhaps the best pocket passer this league has ever seen in Dan Marino doesn't have a title? Neither does Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, Phillip Rivers and others.

Matthew Stafford didn't get one until his 13th season and if he didn't join an All-In F them picks team in LA he'd probably still wouldn't have one. The main reason John Elway got his two titles during his final two seasons was by handing the ball off to Terrell Davis who carried those teams. Shoot, he missed 4 games his final season and the team was undefeated with Bubby Brister at the helm.

Winning a title isn't solely about the QB. It's still a team sport and breaks along the way for each team.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Yup, that cart says shit. Defenses are better, coverages disguised better, quicker pressure, etc. We shall eventually see who's good though lol

Mind you the guy was "dinged" for it and all it meant was a few people put Drake Maye above him in the draft but it wasn't like anyone didn't think he was a top 15 pick!

 

[gogoat1]

Out of how many running QBs. And he still doesn't have the title in spite of multiple seasons of having a top team around him.

Reading quickly and throwing the ball will always be faster than running the ball. Mobility has value but only if you can win from the pocket. If you can't win from the pocket in this league your career will likely be shortened and it will be harder to win those big games when you run into a defense that shuts down the run game.

You got it.
Thrown ball moving faster than anyone running is a great analogy.
QBs need to concentrate on passing the ball. RBs need to concentrate on running the ball.
IMO if a QB concentrates too much on running the ball, his passing game has to suffer.

 

[Flatlyner]

"immediately a threat to run when he steps on the field"
That is the problem.
In the end, it takes from the team.
Its the ultimate team game. Not about one player.
The "Mike Vick" experience does not work in the NFL.

Its not a problem on 3rd/4th and 1 or on the goal line. Seems to work for the reigning champs.