This ^^ is all true enough, BUT!! I think he still needs to report to camp, so he can practice the New system, and get his timing down with his team-mates! Am I wrong!?
Rams DE Aaron Donald has proven his point, now it's time to stop holding out
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It certainly is a head scratcher that a team that hasn't had a winning season in forever doesn't have the money to sign it's best player . Too many guys overpaid I guess . Very fustrating
Trade him for a 1st and a 2nd. If he's playing pizzed off he's no good to the Rams.
The sad part is that we trade one of the few 1st rounders that has been any d@mn good, for another 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder? We would probably much that up..:sneak:
Having years left on his contract should make no difference. The front office chose to reward Robert Quinn (deserved) and Tavon Austin (waaayy undeserved) before their rookie deals ended. Now the are dragging their feet with the most electrifying player we've witnessed in a long time? I don't get it. I absolutely side with Donald on this. This team has it's priorities all wrong - paying potential talent while letting the proven guys twist in the wind.
The Players Union/Association must have felt differently if they signed the last CBO (which they did). Do away with contracts altogether if they are not binding and pay according to performance....I guarantee players won't like that...
Aaron agent needs.to realize, if the Rams had.the cap.space.they would have already made an offer that both sides can live with, but they can't pay him with $ that are not there. Next off-season the Rams will have the cap space to pay AD what he deserves, probably more than he would get on the open market this year.
I know we're not privy to it, but I'm curious where they stand on the contract. Are the even close? Are they far apart? What's the hangup?
For measuring tools:
Von Miller, 6 years/$115M, 70M guaranteed, $19M/year
Ndamukong Suh, 6 years/$115M, 60M guaranteed, $19M/year
Fletcher Cox, 6 years/$102M, $63M guaranteed, $17M/year
I know we'll never know, but I'm curious what numbers are being thrown around.
6 years/$120M, 75 guaranteed, $20M/year?
For measuring tools:
Von Miller, 6 years/$115M, 70M guaranteed, $19M/year
Ndamukong Suh, 6 years/$115M, 60M guaranteed, $19M/year
Fletcher Cox, 6 years/$102M, $63M guaranteed, $17M/year
I know we'll never know, but I'm curious what numbers are being thrown around.
6 years/$120M, 75 guaranteed, $20M/year?
Fucked this up weeks ago....Fucked it up with JJ...lowballed him...in Williams fucked up system...Now we got an even better DC....and Donald doesn't wanna sniff the field...
Donald shouldn't move....hell no...Look at some of our players that have left that have gotten paid. Sam B, McLeod, JJ, who else??? Oh yeah, Kenny Britt, Jared Cook....gotten paid.
This is a billion dollar industry...yeah, you can't pay everyone $20 million....but you can pay a few $25 million a year....The team is worth, what, $2 billion...did I read $4 billion somewhere??? Donald is a huge reason for our minor success? and he can't get paid? Donald jersey's everywhere, and he can't get paid? Worse, now we got him holding out...getting fined...and developing bad blood...for what? That's gonna make him play hard when he returns?
Donald shouldn't move....hell no...Look at some of our players that have left that have gotten paid. Sam B, McLeod, JJ, who else??? Oh yeah, Kenny Britt, Jared Cook....gotten paid.
Agreed with everything except this....why? Pass rushers are game changers.
This is a billion dollar industry...yeah, you can't pay everyone $20 million....but you can pay a few $25 million a year....The team is worth, what, $2 billion...did I read $4 billion somewhere??? Donald is a huge reason for our minor success? and he can't get paid? Donald jersey's everywhere, and he can't get paid? Worse, now we got him holding out...getting fined...and developing bad blood...for what? That's gonna make him play hard when he returns?
SteezyEndo
The Immaculate Exception
Hmmmmm Defense isn't the only reason you win games. It wins games if you actually score. Which has been our downfall scoring points. As fas as I am concerned Donald is a contributor but honestly even with Donald on D our team overall still had a mediocre standing. He may have suceeded his expectations for himself making pro bowls, but lets be honest. I think we can fare off just fine if he decides to sit out we use who we got now. Our O should be more exciting anywho...
BonifayRam
Legend
If I am part of this Rams Org. .....knowing that signing AD to long term future contract @ mega $$$ causing major negative issues with the future available cap space $$$ for other important vital Ram players..... I would want to know first that AD can be as effective in this new defense as he was in the Fisher/Greg Williams 43 Defense.
They have yet to observe AD thus far in Training Camp in action with the pads in this new 3 player DL. As an Org. you have to be very smart on this & AD has put them in a terrible position. I don't like AD's positioning in this matter myself. If its me I am looking for possible options out of this IF Aaron Donald decides to take this situation into nasty depths of no return. Ram Org. has been cornered here & its not good.
The Org, knew it had AD under contract for two more seasons with the option of 2 more with a total of four more seasons & this was a entire new coaching unit & big changes ongoing. It would seem reasonable to me that AD would come in here with all this new changes & assist this Org, then after this season concludes he would engage his mandated demands then...not so early into this new reconstructive NFL Organization. Ad & his agent should know this & how critical this time is to this team. Its somewhat like hitting a guy while his back is turned. I say Face off face to face early next yr & go Mano to Mano.
They have yet to observe AD thus far in Training Camp in action with the pads in this new 3 player DL. As an Org. you have to be very smart on this & AD has put them in a terrible position. I don't like AD's positioning in this matter myself. If its me I am looking for possible options out of this IF Aaron Donald decides to take this situation into nasty depths of no return. Ram Org. has been cornered here & its not good.
The Org, knew it had AD under contract for two more seasons with the option of 2 more with a total of four more seasons & this was a entire new coaching unit & big changes ongoing. It would seem reasonable to me that AD would come in here with all this new changes & assist this Org, then after this season concludes he would engage his mandated demands then...not so early into this new reconstructive NFL Organization. Ad & his agent should know this & how critical this time is to this team. Its somewhat like hitting a guy while his back is turned. I say Face off face to face early next yr & go Mano to Mano.
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How do you know the Team is " Dragging their Feet"!!?! No one the I have heard of has any idea what either side has offered or declined!! Do you know something none of the rest of us do!?
All the Team keeps saying is "We know he deserves a Big Raise" / "We want him" I have heard nothing from Donald's side, him or his agent's!!
It will/would be interesting to see this 3rd preseason game without Donald...the dress rehersal. I just heard Dak wants to play Saturday....So, the 1st drive or so, we'll get a good picture too...How does Tree & Barron play without Donald....and now Easley....
I don't know how we'll play, honestly....It ranges from terrible for balanced offensive teams, to maybe average against strong passing, weak running teams. I don't think we can be a great defense without Aaron Donald.
I can't put this all on AD without knowing the details of what has been offered. I do feel, baring injury, which is what he's protecting himself from, he will be a HOF. AD has played at that level, should be paid at the level, and I want him in the Hall as a lifetime Ram------get the damn contract done, I don't care at this point whose "fault" it is.
This is all very reasonable, and Logical, and I agree with it! I also think AD is listening to his agents, not saying anything and letting the Court of Fan Power influence the debate! If I'm right, and this is the agents tactic, IT"S BS! For AD own good, and his careers he should tell his agents " enough is enough, I'm reporting in!"
SteezyEndo
The Immaculate Exception
We will see. Saturday is almost here...Whether or not lets see if he is the difference maker.
Boston Ram
Hall of Fame
BonifayRam
Legend
Lets see who AD might be lonely for ?Could AD be homesick? What part of the country is AD from? AFC North? Wonder who has the most instant cap cash ready to pay AD right now?
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/coaches/gregg-williams/73545e5f-e3f8-4f74-bd53-c92b3e746a21
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/coaches/clyde-simmons/17af3590-c25e-448e-bfe0-b42e58ef9986
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2017/04/29/browns-already-loaded-with-12-picks-for-2018-nfl-draft/
http://brownswire.usatoday.com/2017/05/01/browns-can-control-2018-draft-with-5-of-first-64-picks/
Boston Ram
Hall of Fame
Yes, starting next year though. Or they could tear up the current deal give him a 3M raise this year then add the big money next year and beyond. That caveat hear is Donald is under contract, he is signed and technically if the Rams were real ball busters they could franchise him for 2 years, essentially having him under contract for 4 years.
The way I see it, Donald under his current deal and getting franchised twice Donald is in line to make around 50M over the next 4 years.
What is in it for the Rams to extend him? What does Donald really want. Would he take 4 Yrs 50M all guarenteed? Is he looking for security, or a record/scoreboard type contract?
I know I am going off the rails here lol, but the Rams IMO are doing the right thing today. They should wait till next year to address this. They have no money this year and they have all the leverage.