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MVP is a stats based award. There is no way Rodgers was more valuable than Stafford. Stafford had 4 bad games and we lost them all. When he plays well, we win. The one exception was week 18 when we blew a 17 point lead. Hell Rodgers wasn't as valuable as Mahomes or Burrow. If he was truly valuable, with the statistical seasons he's put together the Packers would have more titles. 7-9 in the postseason and 4 MVPs. Something is wrong there.

MVP is just the QB that played the best that year. Kupp was much more valuable than Stafford or even Rodgers, easily.
 

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MVP is just the QB that played the best that year. Kupp was much more valuable than Stafford or even Rodgers, easily.
It's all a game of semantics really.

Kupp was definitely better at his job than any QB was last year, but it's almost impossible for a WR to have more of an impact (value) on a game than the QB.
 

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It's all a game of semantics really.

Kupp was definitely better at his job than any QB was last year, but it's almost impossible for a WR to have more of an impact (value) on a game than the QB.
I’m not a pff rating guy but Kupp had to rate the highest of any offensive player in the NFL last year. He was close to perfect. For that he deserved and was crowned the offensive player of the year in the NFL.
However The NFL QB position is clearly the most important position in the league. As a result the best QB in the league is likely the most valuable player in the league. It’s just not close to the value of any other position. I would like to see the awards include performance in the playoffs. Including playoffs might have elevated Kupp to MVP.
 

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MVP is just the QB that played the best that year. Kupp was much more valuable than Stafford or even Rodgers, easily.
Kupp was the most obvious "true MVP" I've seen in a long time
They ought to just change the name of the award to the "QB of the year"
14 of last 15 MVP are QB, depending on whether you consider Lamar Jackson a QB or not...
 

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Kupp should have been league MVP yeah. But that said I am fine with the Rams getting the hardware that really matters this year. :startstruck::trophy:
 

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Kupp should have been league MVP yeah. But that said I am fine with the Rams getting the hardware that really matters this year. :startstruck::trophy:
ikr. wish we could split hairs like this every year about which Ram should have gotten the league / superbowl MVP.
that said, Kupp's dominance at the WR position this year was special. we've never seen a WR like him on this team or any other. dude is a walking WR clinic on how to do all the little things right & proof of just how far that focus can elevate your game.
what a joy it would be to have this same discussion after the 2022 season wraps up.
 

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I’m not a pff rating guy but Kupp had to rate the highest of any offensive player in the NFL last year. He was close to perfect. For that he deserved and was crowned the offensive player of the year in the NFL.
However The NFL QB position is clearly the most important position in the league. As a result the best QB in the league is likely the most valuable player in the league. It’s just not close to the value of any other position. I would like to see the awards include performance in the playoffs. Including playoffs might have elevated Kupp to MVP.
They defend Rodgers (and other QBs) getting it by saying, "the QB touches the ball on every play". I don't agree with that but I also understand most years, you could point to a QB and say, "that's the MVP". The biggest factor Rodgers has won is his QB rating. And what negatively affects QB rating to an unbalanced degree? Interceptions. In the QB rating formula TD's are worth 20% less than Ints. Why? Not every interception costs the team but every TD goes on the scoreboard. If they tweaked the formula to reward TDs the same but penalize for interception half as much as TDs, Rodgers would have had a 113.8 QB rating and Stafford would have had a 110.0 QB rating. Not a huge difference. Hell I go so far to say they should reward yards per attempt a little more. Reward the guy more who throws it downfield over the guy who dinks and dunks.
 
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