Rams: (#13) 1st Round QB Ty Simpson

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Memphis Ram said:
I believe I've got a much better understanding of your point of view.

It appears that you value the overall impact of WRs far higher than I. So much so that it kinda begs the question of just how good Stafford really is if he needs so many, IMO.

BTW, Brandon Cooks was a pretty good WR. As good as Kupp was I'd say in that Super Bowl Goff missing his security blanket had more to do than the lack of talent at the position. But in the end, McVay had no answer for the Pats adjustment to his rushing attack.
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I believe every QB needs at minimum 2 better than average WRs no matter who they are.

Even Manning had 2 really good WRs at the top of his game.
 
Tano said:
Just wanted to point out it was Gastritus plus the 3 injuries

Lower back pains which he took medicine that cause the Gastritus - not sure how he got lower back pains
Bursitis of the elbow - have no clue how he got that
Rib injury from a hit against Indiana CB Hood

But I agree with what you are saying. He didn't have good support so those injuries probably were the directly the cause of his troubles and I am hoping an NFL conditioning program will improve his capacity to avoid these types of injuries in the future.
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We hope.

I think he's actually thick, in the legs at least, and seems sturdy. I really think he will be a good passer that uses his legs often to get those back-breaking 1st Downs that Defenses hate.
 
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Memphis Ram said:
I believe I've got a much better understanding of your point of view.

It appears that you value the overall impact of WRs far higher than I. So much so that it kinda begs the question of just how good you think Stafford really is if he needs so many, IMO.

BTW, Brandon Cooks was a pretty good WR. As good as Kupp was I'd say in that Super Bowl Goff missing his security blanket had more to do than the lack of talent at the position. But in the end, McVay had no answer for the Pats adjustment to his rushing attack.
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I truly believe Kupp would have caught those two contested throws that Cooks had knocked away from him/interferred with.
 
DzRams said:
I don't see why it wouldn't work. Here's a quote from a tweet a few pages back:

"Their WR3 in 2025 had a 4.39% target share and by week 18 they were in 13 personnel 66.7% of the time."

Sure, leaning on 13 even more makes the offense easier to defend, but there will always be negative consequences for a vital piece of the team missing time.

Can they temporarily adapt? Last year, McVay innovated with 13 and the offense continued to lead the league in scoring despite having a few games without Adams and Nacua. They can also adapt this year if necessary.
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I wouldn't want to have to rely on that. The games would probably come down to the last minute and I swear I am going to get a heart attack one of these days from these last second wins.

Having a good to very good 3rd WR would allow McVay to really up his game.

He has never had 3 really good WRs with Stafford.

I consider Van Jefferson to be average for the most part.

And don't get me started on Tutu
 
Tano said:
I wouldn't want to have to rely on that. The games would probably come down to the last minute and I swear I am going to get a heart attack one of these days from these last second wins.

Having a good to very good 3rd WR would allow McVay to really up his game.

He has never had 3 really good WRs with Stafford.
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Does it matter what we want? McVay was already leaning that direction and given the draft and how they're talking, 13 will be even more prominent than last year.

I doubt having a great WR3 is the plan for this year. Buckle up!
 
DzRams said:
Does it matter what we want? McVay was already leaning that direction and given the draft and how they're talking, 13 will be even more prominent than last year.

I doubt having a great WR3 is the plan for this year. Buckle up!
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Damn it - I really want Allen now.

I guess I just got to get used to this

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Coliseum Ram said:
To my point, focus on his legs, they seem thick to me. Like he's sturdy with a good base. And he's quick, and spry, with excellent reflexes and quick reaction. The arm is there. The brain is there.

I know I'm "glazing" him like my buddy Chapo says, LOL


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Oh I am starting to like his abilities for the most part, but if he does have a lower back issue - that has nothing to do with the legs.

Let's just hope it was a fluke.
 
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Tano said:
I believe every QB needs at minimum 2 better than average WRs no matter who they are.

Even Manning had 2 really good WRs at the top of his game.
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OK, but I think Woods and Cooks were the two good WRs in that Super Bowl loss.
 
Tano said:
You make a good point but I still like my version over your version because I think we will still be in QB purgatory. But I have already specified why I disliked picking Simpson.
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So really, the answer here is that you don't think Ty Simpson is a good enough prospect. That's fine. Opinions differ on that. I had a higher opinion of him than most, and I trust McVay's eye for QBs (and ability to get the best out of them). Unsurprisingly, then, I am supportive of the pick.
 
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jrry32 said:
So really, the answer here is that you don't think Ty Simpson is a good enough prospect. That's fine. Opinions differ on that. I had a higher opinion of him than most, and I trust McVay's eye for QBs (and ability to get the best out of them). Unsurprisingly, then, I am supportive of the pick.
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Oh I have no problem with that. That's your opinion and I respect that.

I was just explaining in my posts why I wanted Cooper. And somehow it got into the Cooper vs Simpson scenario which I had already gone over earlier why I don't want Simpson.

You must not have read those posts and I thought you had. My bad.
 
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DzRams said:
I don't see why it wouldn't work. Here's a quote from a tweet a few pages back:

"Their WR3 in 2025 had a 4.39% target share and by week 18 they were in 13 personnel 66.7% of the time."

Sure, leaning on 13 even more makes the offense easier to defend, but there will always be negative consequences for a vital piece of the team missing time.

Can they temporarily adapt? Last year, McVay innovated with 13 and the offense continued to lead the league in scoring despite having a few games without Adams and Nacua. They can also adapt this year if necessary.
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No guarantee the success rate will be the same. Better to be multifaceted for those changes to come. Defensive coordinators are too smart not to adjust and I'm sure have looked into ways of stopping it.
 
El Chapo Jr said:
No guarantee the success rate will be the same. Better to be multifaceted for those changes to come. Defensive coordinators are too smart not to adjust and I'm sure have looked into ways of stopping it.
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I'm gonna leave the success rate and innovation to McVay. He's already said he's working on answers for adjustments that DCs will make.

I'm not so sure McVay agrees that it's better to be multifaceted. At one point, he was running 11 98% of the time. As I stated to Tano, McVay was already leaning in the 13 direction, and given the draft and how they're talking, 13 will be even more prominent than last year.
 
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