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Yeah, I don't think the Browns are gonna want him and the Giants prob don't want another veteran. Do Steelers do a little work on him?

This may just be a guy trying to use what little leverage he has to find a better situation and one's not really out there and this all amounts to nothing.
The Browns traded for Kenny Picket and just signed Flacco, so they're set for the time being.
The Steelers are interesting, waiting for Aaron Rodgers to bless them with his presence....
 

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The Browns traded for Kenny Picket and just signed Flacco, so they're set for the time being.
The Steelers are interesting, waiting for Aaron Rodgers to bless them with his presence....
Forget who said this but they said there's a non-zero chance that Rodgers announces retirement during draft to stick it to Steelers for making him wait on them figuring out if they can take a QB in the draft and now it's all I want.
 

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Forget who said this but they said there's a non-zero chance that Rodgers announces retirement during draft to stick it to Steelers for making him wait on them figuring out if they can take a QB in the draft and now it's all I want.
Wait, Rodgers wants to stick it to the Steelers? They've been waiting on him. I cant see him retiring, he wants to play for Minnesota and I think he has been putting off the Steelers in hopes that the Vikings reconsider
 

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Wait, Rodgers wants to stick it to the Steelers? They've been waiting on him. I cant see him retiring, he wants to play for Minnesota and I think he has been putting off the Steelers in hopes that the Vikings reconsider
I mean, it's more a thought experiment of how Rodgers operates than anything. But even if they're waiting for him, them about to pick a QB or picking one and him immediately saying he's retiring is an absolute Rodgers move even if it may not happen cause he's holding out for some other teams QB dynamic to change.
 

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The Browns traded for Kenny Picket and just signed Flacco, so they're set for the time being.
The Steelers are interesting, waiting for Aaron Rodgers to bless them with his presence....
Pickett and Flacco make a team set at QB? Yikes
 

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I mean, it's more a thought experiment of how Rodgers operates than anything. But even if they're waiting for him, them about to pick a QB or picking one and him immediately saying he's retiring is an absolute Rodgers move even if it may not happen cause he's holding out for some other teams QB dynamic to change.
I guess. I just dont see why he would need to retire though. He can just not agree to sign with the Steelers. If they sign him and then he retires they hold his rights.
I cant see a world where they dont draft a QB this year, Rodgers signing or not
 

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Steelers, Browns, Colts, Giants all come to mind.
He's due 50 mill in 2026 so if he is truly injured and '25 is in question, what good is he? He's not an upgrade to what the Giants and Browns have already added and the Colts have invested in Daniel Jones and Richardson.
The Steelers are waiting on Rodgers and will draft a QB. So I dont see how any of them are a fit
 

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2026 draft looks nice, particularly at QB:
Manning
Iamaleava
Sellers

Nussmeier
Allar
Klubnik

And there will for sure be a riser amongst the others. Personally love the top 3 as prospects. They all have top end arms and are athletic (especially Manning and Sellers). Guessing Ward would be, at best, 4th QB in next years draft at this moment (obviously, things can and will change).
I’m a Penn State Alum. Allar has the arm talent but he just looks lost on too many plays. Maybe he takes a leap this year, but I’ve never seen a QB with the ‘deer in the headlights’ look on his face after so many plays.
 

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Forget who said this but they said there's a non-zero chance that Rodgers announces retirement during draft to stick it to Steelers for making him wait on them figuring out if they can take a QB in the draft and now it's all I want.
That was on 301 today. The guy on with Tice said it Matt Harmon

Harmon has very different takes on the DT/edge guys in this draft. He isn’t very high on any of them. His grades are much lower than Bruglers
 

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The number one thing I want to see from a college QB is improvement year to year. Red flag for me with Dart. Not saying he can't become a starter in the NFL. Just think that's one more bit of ammo why he won't.
If that is your criteria, then Dart should be #1 on your list.
Dart improved greatly year over year and just had his best season. Career highs in basically every measurable category

Like him or not, this is textbook "massive improvement year over year"
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If that is your criteria, then Dart should be #1 on your list.
Dart improved greatly year over year and just had his best season. Career highs in basically every measurable category
Is it possible that you just really want the Rams to take a QB this year and you have only decided to look at aspects of Dart's game that feed that narrative?

I concede that Dart improved things like QBR. Would you be open to conceding that he did not show improvement in mastering the offense and going through his progressions and being able to read defense post snap?
 

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View: https://x.com/greggrosenthal/status/1912210357655146720


The number one thing I want to see from a college QB is improvement year to year. Red flag for me with Dart. Not saying he can't become a starter in the NFL. Just think that's one more bit of ammo why he won't.

Not only did he run the same system for three years, Kiffin often ran the same plays many times per game. Once defenses adjusted and took away the first read, Dart struggled. How many times do you run the same play until you learn to find the second and third reads?

On the flip side, Lamar had that problem in the NFL and has improved on it. He’s still in more of a college style offense though. I don’t think Lamar excels in McVay’s offense.

In that regard, maybe when trying to guess what the Rams want in a QB, football IQ and processing speed should trump everything else. McVay hasn’t proven to be willing to drastically change his scheme. He did it for Goff near the end and he was very frustrated that whole season.
 

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Is it possible that you just really want the Rams to take a QB this year and you have only decided to look at aspects of Dart's game that feed that narrative?

I concede that Dart improved things like QBR. Would you be open to conceding that he did not show improvement in mastering the offense and going through his progressions and being able to read defense post snap?
Dude. Stop. Every measured statistic improved year over year. The only way you can deny that is because of your narrative
Come on now
There's about 15 different guys I would be happy with the Rams drafting and he is merely one of them.
I get the criticism, and understand why folks dont like him as a prospect, but saying that a player who does this isnt showing major improvement year over year is completely disingenuous
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