Projecting Rams’ offensive line

[Reddog99]

I'll guess that the starting OL will look something like

LT Jackson
LG Bruss
OC Allen or a free agent
RG Anchrum
RT Havenstien

That's if Noteboom isn't ready in time. If he is then Bruss is depth, Jackson is LG and Boom is LT. I also think if Boom is ready then Allen is gone so that they aren't starting two of the same guys that are injury prone again. Allen could be gone either way though.

 

[PARAM]

For those looking at Joseph Noteboom as being" it" @ LT?

Noteboom allowed the second-most hits, and the third-most sacks and pressures on the team in 2022, and he played in just six games before going out on the IR for the rest of the season.

According to PFF?

The way I saw it, he "allowed" 2 sacks and if the numbers are that far off on sacks, I can only imagine how far they're off on pressures and hits.

Unless of course you blame him for a sack when his guy and the LGs guy run a stunt and he picks up the guard's guy but the guard doesn't pick up his guy.

Or the QB climbs the pocket and scrambles left only to be grabbed by Noteboom's guy. The only way to prevent that is holding.

Gamepass all-22 should be required viewing for fans that believe Noteboom isn't a good LT.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I see some possibilities.

The following guys will almost certainly be gone: Paris Johnson (Ohio St), Broderick Jones (Georgia).

That leaves an intriguing second group of prospects including Darnell Wright (Tenn), Anton Harrison (Oklahoma), Cody Mauch (ND State), and Jaelyn Duncan (Maryland).

I think it’s worth considering.

I'd rather have a stud center like John Michael-Schmitz. Stafford couldn't even step up half the time when our interior line got manhandled. We need some bulk and nastiness there. I think it'd benefit the offense much more.

 

[Riverumbbq]

I'd rather have a stud center like John Michael-Schmitz. Stafford couldn't even step up half the time when our interior line got manhandled have the time. We need some bulk and nastiness there. I think it'd benefit the offense much more.

John Michael-Schmitz would make for a very solid future Center, I just wish he had some experience at OG as Allen is still our likely starter for 2023. LG would be a new position for him, even if it's just temporary. I highly doubt the Rams would risk moving both Allen & Shelton this off-season. jmo.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

John Michael-Schmitz would make for a very solid future Center, I just wish he had some experience at OG as Allen is still our likely starter for 2023. LG would be a new position for him, even if it's just temporary. I highly doubt the Rams would risk moving both Allen & Shelton this off-season. jmo.

They should move on from Allen. He's very injury prone and I doubt his knees are gonna hold up in the short and especially long term.

 

[Riverumbbq]

They should move on from Allen. He's very injury prone and I doubt his knees are gonna hold up in the short and especially long term.

I think they will, just seems to me that would be more likely next year.

 

[So Ram]

Watching the Superbowl only makes me see how bad The Rams missed on one of 2 excellent Center/guards.

Lance Dickerson will be a Stud for years.If anyone pays attention to OFFENSIVE LINE play would have noticed how GREAT he is.
I know Creed Humpries was the guy Ram Fans wanted instead of Tutu Atwell.My point is when a player that looks like a Pro Bowler & see draft picks slipping in the 2nd rounds
I liked Johnathan Taylor in 2020.In 2021 Lance Dickerson would have been The Best choice & reasoning is a BIG CENTER GUARD when needing depth.
—Shelton & Creed Humpries would have been a perfect duo though because they at both LEFT HANDED Centers.

Moving forward is a tough call? Allen was signed for 1 more season & Brian Allen for 2 more seasons. I guess my point is if The Rams draft a center he will have to be big enough to play Guard. —Blythe,Shelton & Allen don’t cut it as guards. Even though Shelton was OK.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I think they will, just seems to me that would be more likely next year.

I'll be honest and say I don't know the difference in cap savings between this and next year but if it's even close, I'd move him. Either way, it's gonna be interesting to see how the front office/McVay reshape the offensive line because we need to keep Stafford upright to have any chance.

 

[oldnotdead]

Shelton can play both Center and OG so yeah he's worth more than Havenstein who is at times a turnstile. I'd rather have Shelton than Havenstein. Release Havenstein and clear about $10M cap space. That $14M quoted includes a bunch of guys that won't make the roster next year. Releasing Havenstein allows them to retain Shelton and Gaines. There is no reason to think Shelton will declare himself a FA at this time. It more media stirring the pot. In fact when you come down to it I'd rather have Mayfield than Havenstein who continues to struggle against speed and whose run blocking has deteriorated the past few years. They have Jackson to play RT and who IMO would be an upgrade.

Priority signings are Mayfield, Gay, Gaines, Scott, Powell, Nsekhe, and with guys like Howard, Hoecht, and Copeland being ERFA I don't see a horrific firesale required to get these guys back. The first four I listed IMO are the key UFA that they need to extend. Nsekhe and Powell won't be very expensive (relatively speaking). ERA is a matter of tendering them.

 

[Ram_Rally]

I see some possibilities.

The following guys will almost certainly be gone: Paris Johnson (Ohio St), Broderick Jones (Georgia).

That leaves an intriguing second group of prospects including Darnell Wright (Tenn), Anton Harrison (Oklahoma), Cody Mauch (ND State), and Jaelyn Duncan (Maryland).

I think it’s worth considering.

Agreed. I like Harrison. I like Duncan but he feels like more of a project. For me, I don't like any of those guys over who will be available at edge or corner though.

 

[Ram_Rally]

They should move on from Allen. He's very injury prone and I doubt his knees are gonna hold up in the short and especially long term.

Something tells me that they like the versatility of Coleman Shelton to the point that they won't move on from Allen unless it's a vet or a high level prospect.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Something tells me that they like the versatility of Coleman Shelton to the point that they won't move on from Allen unless it's a vet or a high level prospect.

I hope you aren't correct because as much as I'd like to depend on Allen, he is the very definition of injury prone. This is the same guy that had to take it easy in training camp and have his knees drained. He's not going to get healthier knees. We should not depend on someone like that as much as I'd want the guy to succeed.

 

[dang]

I’m going for some changes. Can’t bring myself to settle for some of the same old injury prone JAG lineman::

LT AJax
LG Nate Davis or Dalton Risner (FA)
R2 Draft Pick
RG Anchrum or Bruss
RT Hav

 

[blackbart]

I think @BonifayRam is probably right about Shelton he is going to get paid and probably not by the Rams. Unfortunately I think that means Allen is most likely in play for the starting C next year. Using their first pick to grab one of the top C coming out would be a great start in the draft.

Jackson hopefully is able to get healthy and not have a reoccurrence of the blood clots. I don’t think Noteboom has shown he can be healthy and should not be counted on any more than Allen. I would keep Nsekhe around, I think he earned a look in camp.

Bruss, Anchrum and Brewer (if he’s retained) fighting it out for the two guard spots. Picking another guy in the draft to compete would be a good addition unless they can find someone in a trade but I don’t think that is likely.

Havenstein ar RT is a lock.

 

[Merlin]

@BonifayRam I am fine with Shelton leaving. Not sure he'll get as good an opportunity elsewhere that he will here, but bottom line I think when you stack a roster with too many mediocre fucks bad shit happens. And that's where we're at with the OL.

We have a plethora of mediocre fucks on this line and projected to step up next season on this line. So IMO if they try to run it back with the same bunch McVay is going to suffer losing season #2. But hopefully it won't come to that. Hopefully they'll add some quality.

 

[Ram_Rally]

I hope you aren't correct because as much as I'd like to depend on Allen, he is the very definition of injury prone. This is the same guy that had to take it easy in training camp and have his knees drained. He's not going to get healthier knees. We should not depend on someone like that as much as I'd want the guy to succeed.

I agree. I think Allen is a better player than he gets credit for but we can't keep rolling the dice on the line or with their health.

 

[PhillyRam]

Would be great if they can confidently trade down 5-8 picks, get another top 100 pick, and then draft that Minnesota center. Risky, but centers don't often go top 40.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Would be great if they can confidently trade down 5-8 picks, get another top 100 pick, and then draft that Minnesota center. Risky, but centers don't often go top 40.

I wouldn't chance it as that gives more opportunity for someone to jump us as well. Remember Bobby Wagner.

 

[oldnotdead]

Gamepass all-22 should be required viewing for fans that believe Noteboom isn't a good LT.

Couldn't agree with you more. Too many people believe PFF who have proved they don't know shit. The Rams know they have their starting OTs of the future in Noteboom and Jackson. For cap reasons Allen IMO will get one more year to prove he can stay healthy. If not then Shelton will be starting in 2024. In the meantime, he can play OG probably at LG. I really think Thomas is destined for RG.

There is nothing to say Shelton will "opt out" of his contract. After one partial year as a starting C and I doubt anyone is going to pay him a big contract based on that. His best option would be to stay a Ram. IMO it's just more media in search of a story. In the long term, I think the Rams see Shelton as their center and he knows it.

 

[fanotodd]

@BonifayRam I am fine with Shelton leaving. Not sure he'll get as good an opportunity elsewhere that he will here, but bottom line I think when you stack a roster with too many mediocre fucks bad shit happens. And that's where we're at with the OL.

We have a plethora of mediocre fucks on this line and projected to step up next season on this line. So IMO if they try to run it back with the same bunch McVay is going to suffer losing season #2. But hopefully it won't come to that. Hopefully they'll add some quality.

Agree. It’s not the depth I find concerning, it’s the STARTERS. It’s easy to draft day 3 OL, but what the Rams really need is to acquire someone who comes in and starts—an immediate upgrade.