Ok now that Fisher is gone?
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If they were to attract Harbaugh there is no way in hell they'd dictate his staff. Bringing in Harbaugh is where that action stops, then it's a question of who has final say (probably Harbaugh to get him to come btw) and how to balance the front office around that direction.
Dieter the Brock
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I would bring Haley in of course for an interview, just like with McDaniels, Shanny Jr, and Cooter. But I think the dude has some serious personality flaws and it's hard for me to view him favorably. McDaniels is similar in that way, although he's done a better job this year with less optimum pieces with the way he steered them to a 3-1 record without Brady.
But IMO and of course depending on how they interview I do think I favor Shanny and Cooter over both those guys.
I can't stand Harbaugh... but he is the perfect fit.
He matches up with your personnel nicely.
Not sure how realistic it is however.
He matches up with your personnel nicely.
Not sure how realistic it is however.
Well, yeah... it sort of goes without saying that whomever anyone names that they nail the interview.
I would absolutely change my outlook if any candidate didn't get along with players and/or staff during the interview process. I mean, that's about as friendly and as easy as it gets.
I know Todd Haley used to be a real jerk. I was about as hard on him as anyone when he went to KC (that was the Glenn Dorsey debacle... it wasn't good, no sugar coating it.) The ONLY reason he's not only gotten off of my "do not consider" list and onto my short list is because he really seems to have taken stock of his failures, both in AZ and KC. He wasn't the most liked guy in AZ, either.
So, yeah, a LOT will depend on the interview process and we'll have to hope that whomever is a part of this process will be thoughtful and really have a vision for where they want this franchise to be a year from now...3 years from now...10 years from now.
Exactly. And that is why I am trying to avoid judgments on these guys and instead enjoy this process, since it is so crucial. I really don't like Haley, but yeah he might have changed who knows, and I'm not gonna get my boxers all in a knot if he's the guy, I will get behind him and hope I'm wrong.
But again I want to see the Rams cast a wide net and leave no stone unturned.
Gruden is going to be like most of the top candidates: he will want the job. We're already hearing it in the media, guys are lining up all over for this one. It is THE job.
Rams just gotta get it right.
My top three choices in order:
David Shaw.
Jim Harbaugh.
Matt Patricia.
I know that Patricia is a risk, having never been a head coach before, but the guy is undeniably intelligent enough to run both offense and defense - and I believe that he's done both.
David Shaw.
Jim Harbaugh.
Matt Patricia.
I know that Patricia is a risk, having never been a head coach before, but the guy is undeniably intelligent enough to run both offense and defense - and I believe that he's done both.
Great !! College coaches ?? Really ?? When was the last successful college coach in the NFL ??
Harbaugh ain't coming either. He is enjoying coaching at Michagan. He will leave a legacy.
Boston Ram
Hall of Fame
College Coaches who had success in the NFL
Jimmy Johnson
Tom Coughlin
Bill Walsh
Jim Harbaugh
Bobby Ross--only coach to get SD to a SB.
Dennis Green
Pete Carroll
Steve Mariucci
Don Coryell
Dick Vermiel
Just about all these guys went to a SB outside of Green and Coryell I believe. I didnt include Barry Switzer because he was a tool.
I hope this answers your question.
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I like this list except for gruden don't want someone that has been in the booth this long. I think he would last 2 or 3 years and go back to the booth. I want someone like belicheat that will keep us in sb contention for 15 or 20 years. not asking much am i.
Well -- let's just say then. I''m not a big fan of David Shaw !! He just does not win the big games.
Niner fans say that about Harbaugh , but I think Jim Harbaugh is a different bred & heck off a coach. He gets the most out of his players & they buy in !!
Pete Carrol is the opposite. He was more of an NFL that coached at USC !! He is the perfect raw raw guy.He probably coached one of the best defensive teams in the Niners.Dion Sanders was on his prime .
Want to stay with The Stanford Tree Bill Walsh was one of a kind.
Coryell had Maddon & Fred Dryer with him. A very special time.
Bobby Ross was a military coach who went to GT. Some good times.
Denny Green ? Don't really recall.
DV at ucla was back in the day when things were different. The game has changed.He changed with the game, but never could see him back in college after Philly.
Jimmy Johnson -- was top of the top !! His teams were amazing.He knew how to coach players with attitudes . M. Irvining was a special player for him.
T. Coughlin might be a good hire for 2 years,but I don't recall his college coaching off hand.
---David Shaw is not in that category !! Talk recent years.The guy from Ohio State ?? I. Myers ?? There is a solid coach. He knows how to win !!!
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With all due respect, I don't feel like that's an accurate statement. David Shaw is 2-2 in BCS Bowls and 3-0 in the Pac-12 Championship Game in his career at Stanford.
How do we know? Many would have said Jim Harbaugh isn't that category before his NFL success. Shaw's winning percentage at Stanford is about as good as Harbaugh's at Michigan. I'm not going to compare Shaw and Harbaugh at Stanford because that's not fair to Harbaugh.
But Shaw has been wildly successful at Stanford. And runs pro style schemes on both sides of the ball. I cannot agree at all with the implication that Shaw doesn't know how to win.
Urban Meyer isn't a guy who will ever end up in the NFL.(imo) He doesn't run pro style schemes, and his strongest attribute is his ability to recruit. Don't get me wrong, he's as good of a college coach as you can find. But he's the type of guy whose game doesn't translate to the Pros.
I take him over boy wonder any day of the week to be honest. Just not sold on Josh able to keep his emotions in check on and off the field. I read the feel good article about his dad etc etc
just sayin I think Patricia is going to have a better future imho