New Defense - Ongoing season discussion

[Memento]

If Shula starts Reeder and Rozeboom again, he deserves to be fired before the game.

No excuse for those two to be anywhere near this team, even for special teams. Dump their sorry asses on the unemployment line. Poach Michael Barrett from the Browns for the active roster and start him and Speights (no, I don't suddenly trust Hummel).

White is fucking cooked as well (don't bring up Amon-Ra St. Brown's game; the wide receiver was clearly injured and not himself), and I want to see what we have in the younger cornerbacks (Witherspoon and Durant should start...if they're even healthy enough to start, but I still want to see Wallace, Woods, and Lampkin over the usual, see what we have. Hell, I want to see what we have in McCollough and Kinchens as well; if we're going to be bad and injured this year, if this is a lost year like I believe it is, there's no shame in playing younger players.

BB3 has played terrible. I don't care if he's not a traditional nose; I think Desjuan Johnson and eventually Tyler Davis could replace him without a shred of anything being lost. I'd trade him to a needy team, bring up Durden or Olajiga.

And Hoecht should not be starting over Brennan Jackson or Nick Hampton, should not be getting snaps over Verse or Young. Please stop pretending he should, Shula. I don't know what your thought process is with him.

 

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Week 2

 

[Merlin]

CObie has been good lake and white not so much

Seemed like Cobie's the one who shut Harrison down. Not sure of course, since I was busy distracting myself with damn near anything during that game.

 

[LOURam85]

Seemed like Cobie's the one who shut Harrison down. Not sure of course, since I was busy distracting myself with damn near anything during that game.

Yup same for jamo after he had field day with white… also held st brown to like 40 yards

 

[So Ram]

Yup same for jamo after he had field day with white… also held st brown to like 40 yards

So White was a BAD acquisition ?

Really want to see what Whiterspoon brings to The Grass ?

I don’t know The NFL rules,but if he was going to get suspended for anything ? Is there a time period for getting busted as a FA ?

Alaric Jackson was a long time holdout.His suspension just ended.Say those 2 were hanging out & something went down.Anyways YOU get what I’m getting at. You make THE STORY!!

It’s just not knowing & wondering that has to make US think about WHY differently.

Stetson had a story.Just letting EJ53 just walk , hurt The Rams short term if nothing else up The Middle.

Heard Troy Reeders interview & he sounds positive & down to earth.He is a Good Mentor & The Rams should(hopefully) be better from this lose (Cards).

 

[So Ram]

I’ll continue to want to see Olajiga ,but manly Cory Durden.

 

[LOURam85]

So White was a BAD acquisition ?

Really want to see what Whiterspoon brings to The Grass ?

I don’t know The NFL rules,but if he was going to get suspended for anything ? Is there a time period for getting busted as a FA ?

Alaric Jackson was a long time holdout.His suspension just ended.Say those 2 were hanging out & something went down.Anyways YOU get what I’m getting at. You make THE STORY!!

It’s just not knowing & wondering that has to make US think about WHY differently.

Stetson had a story.Just letting EJ53 just walk , hurt The Rams short term if nothing else up The Middle.

Heard Troy Reeders interview & he sounds positive & down to earth.He is a Good Mentor & The Rams should(hopefully) be better from this lose (Cards).

Yea I think those injuries caught up to white … when Williams come back he should take white spot CObie is probably a top 10-15 cb right now

 

[sjm1582002]

Take a look at salaries for Defensive units.

Positional Spending | Over the Cap

Positional Spending | Over the Cap

overthecap.com

Unsurprisingly, the Rams are at the very bottom of the barrel at +$44 million, which is $30 million less than the next lowest team (Panthers).

Interesting strategy, and given my revulsion to soft run defenses, a dubious one.

Through two game I see two well above average players on the Rams D (Verse and K Tuner).

With injuries to key personnel on the Rams offense (the highest paid unit in the NFL) we are in for a trying season.

 

[Ram_Rally]

We need 10 more players with Jared Verse's mentality.

 

[Tumak61]

Some concerning stats.
Opponent 3rd down % 54.00. Completely awful.
Opponent rush yards per att. 5.5. Totally pathetic.
Opponent rush yards a game. 197. WTF

Team has got to tighten up on Defense. This is not good team Defense.

 

[DzRams]

If Shula is in over his head McVay needs to take over the defense....

Brown is not ready to take the next step like we were told. Doubt he'll ever be more than a back of the rotation talent. Hoecht is a JAG. As are Reeder and Rozeboom. In fact we have too much JAG talent across the board and not enough blue chip talent.

I agree with your last paragraph. We need more talent on D. But if we lack talent, would it make a difference if McVay took over the defense?

 

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[0311rams]

I feel like we got a glimpse behind the curtain of the all mighty OZ (see 2024 rams) and it ain't Purdy.

 

[AllGasNoBrakes]

Defense is young. They’ll find their feet. Verse looks like a player.

 

[Steve808]

IMO, the defense overran too many plays with Murray last game. If you run past him and he takes off, none of those DL are going to catch him. That's why AD was so good, he rarely overran his pash rush which gives gaping lanes to mobile QBs. With players like Murray, it's better to forego a sack than to let him escape and make big plays down the field.

Although some of the plays by the DB's this past week were atrocious.

 

[Merlin]

We need to avoid crown mode with Verse. I'm happy we drafted him and have the highest hopes for him to be a dominant rusher but... Dude still has a lot to learn. Let's start with controlled rushes vs QBs who can move the chains with their feet.

Also this will be a great game to focus just on Verse. Assuming it gets ugly. Because he's going up against one of the best at LT, and SF has a QB who is a smart little fuckhead when it comes to running for first downs. So that's my plan for the game if we get trucked.

 

[Merlin]

IMO, the defense overran too many plays with Murray last game. If you run past him and he takes off, none of those DL are going to catch him. That's why AD was so good, he rarely overran his pash rush which gives gaping lanes to mobile QBs. With players like Murray, it's better to forego a sack than to let him escape and make big plays down the field.

Although some of the plays by the DB's this past week were atrocious.

Yeah the other day on overreaction Monday on the McAfee show the first thing out of Belicheat's mouth was criticizing the way the Rams rushed him. Shit was glaring.

What I wonder is whether our young DC called it that way, or whether our young defensive front just didn't play with discipline. Could be either, or a combination. But I am very worried they aren't gonna have that fixed for this weekend.

 

[So Ram]

If Shula starts Reeder and Rozeboom again, he deserves to be fired before the game.

No excuse for those two to be anywhere near this team, even for special teams. Dump their sorry asses on the unemployment line. Poach Michael Barrett from the Browns for the active roster and start him and Speights (no, I don't suddenly trust Hummel).

White is fucking cooked as well (don't bring up Amon-Ra St. Brown's game; the wide receiver was clearly injured and not himself), and I want to see what we have in the younger cornerbacks (Witherspoon and Durant should start...if they're even healthy enough to start, but I still want to see Wallace, Woods, and Lampkin over the usual, see what we have. Hell, I want to see what we have in McCollough and Kinchens as well; if we're going to be bad and injured this year, if this is a lost year like I believe it is, there's no shame in playing younger players.

BB3 has played terrible. I don't care if he's not a traditional nose; I think Desjuan Johnson and eventually Tyler Davis could replace him without a shred of anything being lost. I'd trade him to a needy team, bring up Durden or Olajiga.

And Hoecht should not be starting over Brennan Jackson or Nick Hampton, should not be getting snaps over Verse or Young. Please stop pretending he should, Shula. I don't know what your thought process is with him.

I’d say slow your horses ! You’re all over the Map first off !

2nd the schedule makers didn’t do The Rams any favors & there weren’t going to be many teams that would’ve beat The Arz. Cards Sunday..

There’s a lot of adjustments to be made.I like Troy Reeders view of what happened.As for now I’ll trust him,but I’ve already seen tickets on sale & think The NINER FANS lol to Kevin Demoff !!! He let The Cockroaches IN to SOFI ! They call it Levi South ?? We’ll see,but Merlin predicted it would be ALL RED !!

I predicted to a friend The Rams could be 0-3 when I go see them play in the Windy City.

 

[So Ram]

I turned the game of,but saw it coming. You know I’m still Oldschool(lmao) ,but the way The NFL is played today is FUNNY(stupid) IMO ? Well actually I talked to a coworker who doesn’t watch The NFL. He Loves CF .Taljed about the Eagles going for it on 4th down from the 8 ?

Point is to TAKE The POINTS !! Especially the first points of the season. SEAN MCVAY cursed THE FOOTBALL GODS against Detroit to start The Season & now is CURSED this 2024 Team & Season.

He says it ALL STARTS with HIM ! There is no I IN TEAM !! Take The Points to start The Season & the beginning of The Game. The RULE is to DO SO !! When you don’t it comes back to HAUNT YOU in Every Game ???

I sometimes wonder about scores & gambling.The last time The Rams actually beat The 9ers in regular season they were hurt at the Colosseum !! Mcvay & The Rams almost blew it !! I’m sure he didn’t want lose,but talk about to close to comfort.I think WADE PHILLIPS was still The Rams DC !

Shula is going to do just FINE as a DC !!

 

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