BREAKING NEWS !! Myles Garrett to the Rams / Verse to the Browns

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WestCoastRam said:
I mean, I could be more respectful but appreciate the sentiment
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Honestly man I don't mind the jabbing but it's kind of easy to tell when someone's just being an asshole to be an asshole. Not saying I'm perfect and I'm sure some of us have done it to some extent, myself included, but if it comes my way, I will say something.
 
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El Chapo Jr said:
But claiming a rookie that never played down will be the next great QB isn't? Talk about hypocritical beliefs. Even though I disagreed with you on that you, you are entitled to your beliefs. However you really shouldn't go around criticizing people's football intelligence and saying a belief is a knock. That to me is a pretty douchey thing to say, but hey do you.
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Never claimed he would be the next great QB. Said he's a fine prospect and I think it was SMART we Drafted him (see Myles Garrett trade).

If you didn't know, Myles Garrett is an Active Hall-Of-Fame player.

Also a borderline "Mount Rushmore" Defensive player.

Where Aaron Donald, Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White, Ray Lewis, and a few precious others currently reside.

Happy to help.
 
RamDino said:
I think the bigger issue is that Verse did not progress after his first year. He was great in the playoffs in 2024... 2 sacks against the Eagles and a TD return against the Vikings, and we all thought he was gonna be a stud but didn't seem to get better after that. Maybe I'm missing something?
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I too, expected him to take a step. He did not. Said alot though, and taunted crowds.
 
DzRams said:
This feels like a misrepresentation of what people are saying. I'm not seeing anyone saying that Verse can't or won't get better. I'm seeing people saying that he will never be on Garrett's level.

Turner and Verse will likely both get better. But my opinion is, just as Turner will never reach AD's level, Verse will never reach Garrett's level.
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Of course. How can that not be seen yet?
 
DzRams said:
It's my opinion. I feel we underestimate how good the AD and Garrett types are.

There's a reason Verse isn't getting the sacks. He has one move - the bull rush. It's hard to throttle down and finish consistently from a bull rush. And I believe his arms are short. The skill set of Garrett at the same stage was far ahead of where Verse is.

If you want to say that potential is there, I disagree, but respect it.
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Not everyone underestimates how good AD and Garrett types are.......
 
jrry32 said:
I agree with your conclusion, but I disagree that Verse isn't explosive. He is. Verse doesn't have the bend to consistently turn the corner and win the edge. That's why he'll never be Garrett. He has to win with power, hand usage, and skill. Still has the potential to become a great EDGE, but he's never going to be an elite pass rusher. Can become a 10ish sack per year type of guy who gets a lot of pressure, but he won't be a 17 sack per year guy (Garrett's average over the last 5 years).
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Of course, Verse can become a Borderline Hall Of Fame Player, or a Hall Of Fame Player, but he will never be Myles Garrett, with ZERO discredit to HIM.
 
Coliseum Ram said:
Never claimed he would be the next great QB. Said he's a fine prospect and I think it was SMART we Drafted him (see Myles Garrett trade).

If you didn't know, Myles Garrett is an Active Hall-Of-Fame player.

Also a borderline "Mount Rushmore" Defensive player.

Where Aaron Donald, Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White, Ray Lewis, and a few precious others currently reside.

Happy to help.
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Dude GTFO with this BS post, I definitely don't need your help to form my own opinions. I know Garrett's accolades well and even stated multiple times he's a sure fired HOF. Saying Verse has a chance based on his elite QB pressure numbers (higher than Garrett's 1st 2 years and up there with some greats) isn't the biggest stretch in the world, but that's simply my stance. Verse has some ways to go, but he's still only going into his 3rd year so to me its too early. Garrett is the gold standard and we are lucky to have him now in our quest for a SB ring. Verse will continue to improve and I'll watch with curiousity to see how he turns out because frankly loved this dude as a Ram. I won't say never but it ain't gonna be easy at all.
 
DzRams said:
It's my opinion. I feel we underestimate how good the AD and Garrett types are.

There's a reason Verse isn't getting the sacks. He has one move - the bull rush. It's hard to throttle down and finish consistently from a bull rush. And I believe his arms are short. The skill set of Garrett at the same stage was far ahead of where Verse is.

If you want to say that potential is there, I disagree, but respect it.
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By the way, I sure as hell don't underestimate those guys. They are awesome although I put AD above Garrett personally because he did it as an undersized DT. However, greats won't stop showing up/developing. They'll have these guys as prime examples of how to play the game and hopefully use them as inspiration to put their own individual stamp on the game.
 
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Merlin said:
This is one of those conversations where I don't even want to have it tbh. Because I like Verse a great deal. And think a lot of him. But the dude has limits and that's why the Rams made this move.
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I feel like 99% of this board feels the same way. Happy about Garrett and the upgrade obviously but still bittersweet because Verse is a special dude. Once we get in pads and see Myles start wrecking shit it will feel different.
 
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MachS said:
I feel like 99% of this board feels the same way. Happy about Garrett and the upgrade obviously but still bittersweet because Verse is a special dude. Once we get in pads and see Myles start wrecking shit it will feel different.
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I'm sure we'll all be in awe, myself included. How blessed are we as fans to have had AD now Garrett? Now if AD comes back, I will most definitely be at a few games to witness this historical pairing. Who am I kidding, I'll be there anyways :laugh4:
 
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Coliseum Ram said:
Who's makin fun? Are you gonna say a young hot-shot Defensive Tackle who shines his first 2 years (Jalen Carter, Byron Murphy) may eventually be the next Aaron Donald??? You dont do it.

You JUST. DONT. DO IT.
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Still wrong to demean someone (maybe making fun was the wrong statement - demean is better).
 
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El Chapo Jr said:
I'm not worried, not his first time saying some douche bag shit. People not agreeing with me saying Verse has a chance is what it is. My stance is its way too early to judge what he'll ultimately end up as.
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I just don't like it when people demean someones comments. And I am going to speak out when I see it.
 
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Tano said:
I just don't like it when people demean someones comments. And I am going to speak out when I see it.
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So we can say ANYTHING and it cant be demeaned? Is there ANY point an "opinion" ( I know, everyone's entitled to one) can be demeaned??? (Serious Question)

"Hey, I really think Bryce Young is the next Patrick Mahomes."

Well its MYYYY opinion!!!!!!
 
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