- Joined
- Nov 3, 2013
- Messages
- 40,563
Drafting a cb edge or dt doesn't guarantee an elite player either.Drafting a LT this year in the 1st certainly does not guarantee us as having an elite LT. I think history will show that be true.
Drafting a cb edge or dt doesn't guarantee an elite player either.Drafting a LT this year in the 1st certainly does not guarantee us as having an elite LT. I think history will show that be true.
If glaring means a complete void then only DT has a glaring need. We are in literal need of bodies at that position. At edge we have Hoecht who is a 6 sack guy. That's not a complete void at all.To me "glaring" means a complete void currently. I'd say DT or Edge essentially has a complete void. LT has a guy who played well the entire last season. Not sure how that could be considered the most "glaring" need. A need for an elite LT? Sure, be we need an elite at lots of positions.
Yes, I'm aware of that. I didn't suggest it to be the case.Drafting a cb edge or dt doesn't guarantee an elite player either.
True that. There are no guarantees especially in the NFL draft but if the Rams do draft a LT in Round 1 especially via a trade up, as some have speculated, I do have confidence that they have identified a special talent for a premier position.Drafting a LT this year in the 1st certainly does not guarantee us as having an elite LT. I think history will show that be true.
I can't get past how our SB rings came with Warner/Pace and Stafford/Whit and am honestly just extending your logic. We are completely void of an elite Left Tackle - - thus making the position our most glaring need.To me "glaring" means a complete void currently. I'd say DT or Edge essentially has a complete void. LT has a guy who played well the entire last season. Not sure how that could be considered the most "glaring" need. A need for an elite LT? Sure, be we need an elite at lots of positions.
Yes. But you are quoting an acknowledgement that a rookie OT may start the season on the bench for the Rams.LT can be very impactful on the game.
That would entail giving up next year’s first.I just wouldn't be surprised to see Les swing big and trade up for Joe Alt.
We are complete void of a lot of elite talents at numerous positions. That argument doesn't make much sense. I'd love to have an elite LT. It would take a massive gamble to acquire one this year, especially when we have such glaring needs we need to try and address before the season starts. To have the best shot of drafting an elite LT, we'd need to move to 4? 6? Not sure where Alt goes, but it would cost 2 1st minimum. And that wouldn't be all, likely some assortment of our 2nd and possibly 3rd (not sure on the math here). Either way, FAR too high a price to pay for a position that we have a more then capable starter in IMO.I can't get past how our SB rings came with Warner/Pace and Stafford/Whit and am honestly just extending your logic. We are completely void of an elite Left Tackle - - thus making the position our most glaring need.
I'm with everyone on the importance of stocking good disrupters and difference makers along the D-Line. I hope we do so.
I just wouldn't be surprised to see Les swing big and trade up for Joe Alt.
A franchise LT could put our team over the top and keep Stafford around for 3 maybe 4 more seasons.
Add everybody else via elite scouting. (I seem to like using the word "elite" don't I?)
Go Rams!
Nope.Drafting a cb edge or dt doesn't guarantee an elite player either.
Kupp and Puka are solid WR2s, but we need a WR1.
Yes we are complete void of a lot of elite talents at numerous positions.We are complete void of a lot of elite talents at numerous positions. That argument doesn't make much sense.
That would entail giving up next year’s first.
Not sure we are in a position to do that, especially with both Stafford and Kupp getting older.
How many 50/50 balls did Robinson drop?You honestly think we lost that game because we didn't have enough WR talent? Puka went 9/181, Robinson had a solid game, Kupp didn't get much yardage but caught 5 passes. Not having our starting TE didn't help. Not pressuring Goff or covering St.Brown was a big problem. Ultimately,perhapswe lost that game because the refs decided to not call one of 2 penalties on our last play. Or we win that one despite our issues.
Um - you are talking about a guy who won the triple crown and had the 2nd best season by a WR ever (if not the best) and a kid who had the best rookie season as a WR in the history of the NFL
Neither of those guys is a number 1?
That doesn't make it a need for a, "Number 1" WR.I am talking about someone who can stretch the field and isnt 5 foot 8.
Our waterboy often pours luke warm gatorade too, but you didn't mention him?Yes we are complete void of a lot of elite talents at numerous positions.
But yet I'm not advocating for an elite long snapper, am I?
My argument is that teams will go farther with elite players at the top 4 premier positions. QB, LT, WR, Edge.
We do not have an Elite LT. We have a serviceable LT.
An elite Left Tackle is the biggest upgrade I believe we could "magically" add to this team. I have no idea how to responsibly get one. Not sure that was the original poll question though.
You're not going to change my mind on this one. I appreciate your passion though.
And a rookie dt edge or cb could do the same.Yes. But you are quoting an acknowledgement that a rookie OT may start the season on the bench for the Rams.
I'm 100% on the edge bandwagon and have been for a while. That said I won't be upset with an ot or wr even if we don't trade down. That's all I've been saying and people keep not understanding what I'm trying to say so it's all good.Nope.
But you could certainly justify the gaping hole on the DL for making a choice there.
That being said.. if there isn't a player with a first round grade there at DL? Either go in another direction or trade down.
I thought we were having a healthy debate, and you bring up gatorade?Our waterboy often pours luke warm gatorade too, but you didn't mention him?
I don't think either of us will change the others mind, but that's ok because I'm right!
I’ll take the guys who break NFL records for receiving, myself.I am talking about someone who can stretch the field and isnt 5 foot 8.