More Boston BS....

[bnw]

Like the old adage goes,
If you can't beat em...
Accuse them of cheating.
Oh wait, that's the new age thinking. Lol

Don't have to accuse since they admitted it.

 

[dieterbrock]

Don't have to accuse since they admitted it.

Stealing signs is stealing signs. The whole thing is a joke. Using technology? Cmon.
I'm embarrassed that my team started all this.

 

[Boston Ram]

Stealing signs within the rules is a very legit part of the game. Using any technology to aid in the stealing has always been against the rules. In other words more cheating from Boston. Probably only the tip of the cheating iceberg of the Cheat Sox.

As for that former Cardinals employee the difference is he acted alone and not with the permission or acquiescence of team management.

Of course it different, it's your team. That's why I try to be careful when calling teams cheaters. If it's your defense is that said employee acted alone then you now sound like a Patriot fan......sorry. If your guy didn't get busted information gained would have been for the Cardinal organization.

 

[Boston Ram]

Stealing signs is stealing signs. The whole thing is a joke. Using technology? Cmon.
I'm embarrassed that my team started all this.

I'm embarrassed we did it and still suck lol. This Sox team is hard to like this year. Kind of hope you guys over take us....cant believe I'm saying that

 

[bnw]

Stealing signs is stealing signs. The whole thing is a joke. Using technology? Cmon.

You're wrong. So so wrong. It is illegal to use any technology, period. So you can't have a spotter in the bleachers or scoreboard that conveys the sign (pitch) to the batter no matter the method of signaling used. You can't have any electronic devices to convey info to the batter.....like an ear piece etc. What is legal is for the runner on second base to signal (without electronics or other technology) the batter as to what pitch to expect and possibly where. That is why the battery will frequently (for the Cardinals) change the signs with a runner on second base. There is more than one set of signs for backup since both teams have video replay in their clubhouse that batters can watch during a game and thus determine signs used. Thats why the runner at second base can necessitate a new temporary set of signs.

 

[bnw]

Of course it different, it's your team. That's why I try to be careful when calling teams cheaters. If it's your defense is that said employee acted alone then you now sound like a Patriot fan......sorry. If your guy didn't get busted information gained would have been for the Cardinal organization.

He acted alone and did so to see if the Astros were using the Cardinals proprietary information. He was immediately fired and upon admitting guilt was sentenced to prison. That in no way sounds like anything a Cheatriots fan would say! See a Cheatriots fan has the league office destroy evidence to stop any real investigation cold!

Own it. Cheat Sox.

 

[dieterbrock]

You're wrong. So so wrong. It is illegal to use any technology, period. So you can't have a spotter in the bleachers or scoreboard that conveys the sign (pitch) to the batter no matter the method of signaling used. You can't have any electronic devices to convey info to the batter.....like an ear piece etc. What is legal is for the runner on second base to signal (without electronics or other technology) the batter as to what pitch to expect and possibly where. That is why the battery will frequently (for the Cardinals) change the signs with a runner on second base. There is more than one set of signs for backup since both teams have video replay in their clubhouse that batters can watch during a game and thus determine signs used. Thats why the runner at second base can necessitate a new temporary set of signs.

Mountain out of a molehill
Not like they hacked somebody. Now THAT is cheating

 

[bnw]

Mountain out of a molehill
Not like they hacked somebody. Now THAT is cheating

Really? What was won? See you're wrong again.

 

[dieterbrock]

Really? What was won? See you're wrong again.

Speak English please.

 

[bnw]

Speak English please.

Pull your lip up over your head and swallow. Or use a dictionary.

 

[Boston Ram]

He acted alone and did so to see if the Astros were using the Cardinals proprietary information. He was immediately fired and upon admitting guilt was sentenced to prison. That in no way sounds like anything a Cheatriots fan would say! See a Cheatriots fan has the league office destroy evidence to stop any real investigation cold!

Own it. Cheat Sox.

Sox did own it. Now why don't you? Patroit fans have no control over what the league does. What Patriot fans do is deny, excuse, deny. What you have done is deny and excuse lol. Lots of synergy going on here.

Imagine the Cardinals fired the guy who went to jail for hacking. How forward thinking of them lol. No fooling around in that front office!!! Yes this paragraph should be blue but I'm on my phone

 

[Boston Ram]

You're wrong. So so wrong. It is illegal to use any technology, period. So you can't have a spotter in the bleachers or scoreboard that conveys the sign (pitch) to the batter no matter the method of signaling used. You can't have any electronic devices to convey info to the batter.....like an ear piece etc. What is legal is for the runner on second base to signal (without electronics or other technology) the batter as to what pitch to expect and possibly where. That is why the battery will frequently (for the Cardinals) change the signs with a runner on second base. There is more than one set of signs for backup since both teams have video replay in their clubhouse that batters can watch during a game and thus determine signs used. Thats why the runner at second base can necessitate a new temporary set of signs.

Red Sox were quilty of being lazy and stupid, bottom line. Minor infraction but a bad look for a team that has acted like a bunch of beaches this year. Not a proud time right now for Sox fans

 

[bnw]

Red Sox were quilty of being lazy and stupid, bottom line. Minor infraction but a bad look for a team that has acted like a bunch of beaches this year. Not a proud time right now for Sox fans

I disagree about the "lazy" and the "minor infraction". They wanted to maximize run production with a baserunner in scoring position and they achieved it. By cheating. It was definitely stupid since rosters are constantly changing and something like that will get out.

 

[bnw]

Sox did own it. Now why don't you? Patroit fans have no control over what the league does. What Patriot fans do is deny, excuse, deny. What you have done is deny and excuse lol. Lots of synergy going on here.

Imagine the Cardinals fired the guy who went to jail for hacking. How forward thinking of them lol. No fooling around in that front office!!! Yes this paragraph should be blue but I'm on my phone

Don't smear another team with Cheat Sox and Cheatriots stink. Hacking into another business computer system is a crime. It isn't a cheat. Videotaping opponents practice and illegally obtaining signs is against the rules, i.e. cheating.

 

[Boston Ram]

Don't smear another team with Cheat Sox and Cheatriots stink. Hacking into another business computer system is a crime. It isn't a cheat. Videotaping opponents practice and illegally obtaining signs is against the rules, i.e. cheating.

Ok, your right. What the Sox did is not a jailable offense lol. Your boy hacked scouting info, the opitimy of cheating. Not only is it cheating is unethical. You called out an entire city, so man up and own the fact that BS happens in St Louis too.

 

[dieterbrock]

Pull your lip up over your head and swallow. Or use a dictionary.

Ok. Sober up and we'all try again

 

[bnw]

Ok, your right. What the Sox did is not a jailable offense lol. Your boy hacked scouting info, the opitimy of cheating. Not only is it cheating is unethical. You called out an entire city, so man up and own the fact that BS happens in St Louis too.

No it isn't a cheat. It was a crime. No on field advantage was gained. The hack was to see if proprietary info was being used by the Astros. He claims he found proof of it.....regardless it was stupid and a crime.

It is going on 16 years since that city embraced the theft of Super Bowl 36. I won't stop calling it what it was...... cheating and theft.

 

[RhodyRams]

:boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing:

:cheers: :grouphug:

 

[Boston Ram]

No it isn't a cheat. It was a crime. No on field advantage was gained. The hack was to see if proprietary info was being used by the Astros. He claims he found proof of it.....regardless it was stupid and a crime.

It is going on 16 years since that city embraced the theft of Super Bowl 36. I won't stop calling it what it was...... cheating and theft.

I get it, your a typical fan. You will defend your team at all cost. Its no different than what a Patriot fan does. There is nothing wrong with it. My only issue was your attack on Boston. Perhaps you are jealous. Boston has won like 10 Championships in the last 14 year and lost in 3 or 4 finals. Thing is you are pissed at the city. We fans have not done anything, we dont play the games we just root for the teams....just like you. Boston fans are guilty of enjoying an unprecedented period of success. I agree the Patriot SBs are tainted but Im not a Patriot fan, so I get their side too. You insist in looking through your lens and refuse to acknowledge your own teams mis steps. Patriot fans are just like you. They defend, say its not a big deal, they were railroaded, etc, just like you have done in this thread.

My only point is dont rip my city. Fans are fans and will protect their team, just like you protect yours.

Im not going back and forth any more, its just a conversation that will go in circles. The title of this post is the only reason I even responded in the first place. I hope you would consider changing the title of this thread...thats all.

 

[dieterbrock]

I get it, your a typical fan. You will defend your team at all cost. Its no different than what a Patriot fan does. There is nothing wrong with it. My only issue was your attack on Boston. Perhaps you are jealous. Boston has won like 10 Championships in the last 14 year and lost in 3 or 4 finals. Thing is you are ticked at the city. We fans have not done anything, we dont play the games we just root for the teams....just like you. Boston fans are guilty of enjoying an unprecedented period of success. I agree the Patriot SBs are tainted but Im not a Patriot fan, so I get their side too. You insist in looking through your lens and refuse to acknowledge your own teams mis steps. Patriot fans are just like you. They defend, say its not a big deal, they were railroaded, etc, just like you have done in this thread.

My only point is dont rip my city. Fans are fans and will protect their team, just like you protect yours.

Im not going back and forth any more, its just a conversation that will go in circles. The title of this post is the only reason I even responded in the first place. I hope you would consider changing the title of this thread...thats all.

Boston is awesome.
Its not their fault that the Red Sox and Patriots suck
Haha