Men identifying as women in sporting competition

[LesBaker]

That blue font isn't gonna save you from a solid frog punch next time I see yo ass.

Here's another shot of MP...

I'm sure she's a very nice person with a great personality.

:fuelfire:

 

[Selassie I]

I'm sure she's a very nice person with a great personality.

:fuelfire:

I gotta tell ya Les... I really didn't notice her nice personality.

She was in her early 20's, her pro tennis bod was unbelievably tone, and she could speak French when the moment was right. That particular combo is all I seem to remember for some crazy reason. It's one HELL of a combo though... that, I will not forget.

 

[OregonRamsFan]

The way I look at this, if you are taking drugs (i.e. steroids and/or hormones) to physically change your body composition, for whatever reason, you should be banned from sports competition. There are plenty of examples of men that chose to go through this hormone therapy becoming transgendered women and them gaining a huge physical advantage. Women transgendered to men may not be an issue though. Still I’d say Lance Armstrong was only blood doping and he was stripped of all his wins.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Maybe it would work if a boy went through the change at an early age. Some of the transgender pageant participants in Thailand don't have any signs of having gone through puberty as a male.

The pageant contestant from Canada looks pretty soft too.

So, it makes me instantly question motifs when I see a transgender athlete that physically looks male. If they truly wished to become women, then the masculine physique wouldn't seem to go with the reasoning for the switch. Then consider that they likely wouldn't even be ranked if they competed as a male.

To me it is totally unfair, and shouldn't be allowed.

 

[shaunpinney]

This is an interesting topic and one that is becoming blurred in the sporting community. I think there should be, as @jrry32 mentioned an official acceptable levels of testosterone / oestrogen for athletes. I remember an olympic scandal when I was younger where the IAAF did menstruation tests on female athletes from Russia and Germany to 'check' if they were female, could this be something?

Personally I believe if you are born a particular sex, that's what you are. But there are people that throw that theory out of the window. Caster Semenya for instance is 'Intersex' - she was born with both sets of sexual organs and has a high level of testosterone naturally.

There are a number of international female athletes have publicly said that they have NO chance of beating Caster because of her genetic make-up. I think it's unfair on the born female athletes.

Have you seen Caster compete, she really does look like a man competing in the women's race.

 

[jrry32]

This is an interesting topic and one that is becoming blurred in the sporting community. I think there should be, as @jrry32 mentioned an official acceptable levels of testosterone / oestrogen for athletes. I remember an olympic scandal when I was younger where the IAAF did menstruation tests on female athletes from Russia and Germany to 'check' if they were female, could this be something?

Personally I believe if you are born a particular sex, that's what you are. But there are people that throw that theory out of the window. Caster Semenya for instance is 'Intersex' - she was born with both sets of sexual organs and has a high level of testosterone naturally.

There are a number of international female athletes have publicly said that they have NO chance of beating Caster because of her genetic make-up. I think it's unfair on the born female athletes.

Have you seen Caster compete, she really does look like a man competing in the women's race.

It's unfair for me that Randy Moss could run a 4.2 40 and jump 40+ inches. Life is not fair. That is doubly so in sports. The top athletes are top athletes because of genetic advantages.

 

[LesBaker]

Still I’d say Lance Armstrong was only blood doping and he was stripped of all his wins.

He did HGH and some other drugs as well. He was an accomplished cheater.

It's unfair for me that Randy Moss could run a 4.2 40

Denny Green once said he ran 4.1, here is the exact quote. He was talking about a play where Moss got the ball on a short pass and just blew by everyone as if they were wearing concrete blocks for shoes. The burst in this play is amazing, he was the fastest player I ever saw.

You wanna see a 4.1 40? Watch the thanksgiving game against Dallas. That's what a 4.1 40 looks like.

 

[coconut]

Apparently there is now an agender. As in identifying as neither male nor female. This one identifies as an alien. Not sure how that fits into earthly sports competition.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...n-nipples-removed-believes-agender-alien.html

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Extraterrestrial: The 33-year-old has gone as far as having surgery to remove their nipples in order to make them appear 'less human'

 

[shaunpinney]

It's unfair for me that Randy Moss could run a 4.2 40 and jump 40+ inches. Life is not fair. That is doubly so in sports. The top athletes are top athletes because of genetic advantages.

That's true, you will get people who are obviously genetically gifted (Usain Bolt etc) but that wasn't the argument.

 

[jrry32]

That's true, you will get people who are obviously genetically gifted (Usain Bolt etc) but that wasn't the argument.

I pointed out that while athletes can complain about Caster, every top athlete is benefiting from genetic advantages.

 

[fearsomefour]

This is an interesting topic and one that is becoming blurred in the sporting community. I think there should be, as @jrry32 mentioned an official acceptable levels of testosterone / oestrogen for athletes. I remember an olympic scandal when I was younger where the IAAF did menstruation tests on female athletes from Russia and Germany to 'check' if they were female, could this be something?

Personally I believe if you are born a particular sex, that's what you are. But there are people that throw that theory out of the window. Caster Semenya for instance is 'Intersex' - she was born with both sets of sexual organs and has a high level of testosterone naturally.

There are a number of international female athletes have publicly said that they have NO chance of beating Caster because of her genetic make-up. I think it's unfair on the born female athletes.

Have you seen Caster compete, she really does look like a man competing in the women's race.

That's because he's a man.

 

[fearsomefour]

It's unfair for me that Randy Moss could run a 4.2 40 and jump 40+ inches. Life is not fair. That is doubly so in sports. The top athletes are top athletes because of genetic advantages.

Amongst many other contributing factors.

 

[LesBaker]

Usain Bolt

IMO the entire Jamaican track team has been circumventing the rules for years. And I mean the mens and womens teams not just the mens team.

 

[Raptorman]

He did HGH and some other drugs as well. He was an accomplished cheater.



Denny Green once said he ran 4.1, here is the exact quote. He was talking about a play where Moss got the ball on a short pass and just blew by everyone as if they were wearing concrete blocks for shoes. The burst in this play is amazing, he was the fastest player I ever saw.

You wanna see a 4.1 40? Watch the thanksgiving game against Dallas. That's what a 4.1 40 looks like.

Always remember, when they vacated Lances wins, they gave them to no one. Why? Because every rider in the top 10 around him was eventually busted for doping. So those 6 years, the Tour has no winner.

 

[Memento]

Apparently there is now an agender. As in identifying as neither male nor female. This one identifies as an alien. Not sure how that fits into earthly sports competition.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...n-nipples-removed-believes-agender-alien.html

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Extraterrestrial: The 33-year-old has gone as far as having surgery to remove their nipples in order to make them appear 'less human'

Technically, the term is "non-binary" for people who don't identify in the typical gender spectrum, and they go by they/them pronouns.

I don't know why this person identifies as an alien, but to each their own.

 

[1maGoh]

Technically, the term is "non-binary" for people who don't identify in the typical gender spectrum, and they go by they/them pronouns.

I don't know why this person identifies as an alien, but to each their own.

I was under the impression that they could go by whatever pronouns that wanted, to include ones not found in standard English (such as things that sounds like she/her/hers but are spelled and pronounced differently). Is that not actually a thing?

 

[Force16X]

That blue font isn't gonna save you from a solid frog punch next time I see yo ass.

Here's another shot of MP...

i got mary pearce right here....................

 

[coconut]

Always remember, when they vacated Lances wins, they gave them to no one. Why? Because every rider in the top 10 around him was eventually busted for doping. So those 6 years, the Tour has no winner.

Wow I didn't know that.

 

[Memento]

I was under the impression that they could go by whatever pronouns that wanted, to include ones not found in standard English (such as things that sounds like she/her/hers but are spelled and pronounced differently). Is that not actually a thing?

Well, pronouns are a tricky thing for sure. Some non-binary folks gravitate to male or female pronouns. There's also genderfluid people who identify as male and female. Others go by "they/them" or a combination of "they/them" or "she/her" or "he/his".

Gender is a spectrum. People fall on the spectrum in different ways.

As for your question, yes, people can pronounced "he/his" and "she/her" differently. It's a lot like some feminists spelling woman/women as "womyn." I admit that it's confusing; hell, I don't understand some of it myself because I'm only transfemale.

I think that the most important thing is trying your best to understand, use the pronouns they want, stuff like that.

Cheers!

 

[Karate61]

I completely disagree with men, pretending to be women, competing against real women.

If transgenders want fairness, then they can go compete against themselves.

What's next? Maybe someone will declare themselves handicapped and go rack up the gold in the special olympics?

Get transgenders out of women's sports...every single one of them...hormones or not!