McShay Mocks Us Ty Simpson At 13

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Really???

I don't see anything in Mayfield that would make him nothing more than a good backup QB. I wouldn't want him as our franchise QB.
Dude had 41 TDs and 4500 yards a year ago lol.

The list of QBs who have ever had 40+ TDs consists in no order of Brady, Manning, Brees, Mahomes, Lamar, Stafford, Warner, Marino, Burrow, Luck, Wilson, and Mayfield. Calling him a backup QB is laughable.
 
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People usually use it to describe first round busts. The reclamation aspect is the promise they showed as a prospect.
Then basically every draft pick is a reclamation
No, Darnold showed promise, like Mayfield, and was able to "reclaim" that success
I'd even throw Zach Wilson in as a potential. Lance is literally one of the worst picks of all time and had no place being drafted that high.
Kurt Warner wasnt a reclamation project as a Ram, as a Giant and Cardinal he was
 
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Then basically every draft pick is a reclamation
No, Darnold showed promise, like Mayfield, and was able to "reclaim" that success
I'd even throw Zach Wilson in as a potential. Lance is literally one of the worst picks of all time and had no place being drafted that high.
Kurt Warner wasnt a reclamation project as a Ram, as a Giant and Cardinal he was
Not really. It might extend beyond the first round, but there's a consistent usage. People don't call late round picks reclamation projects. And correct, Warner was not a reclamation project when the Rams signed him. After all, he was a UDFA who washed out of the NFL.

You're not drawing a line that makes much sense here, frankly. Lance put up better numbers in his limited action in 2021 than Darnold and Wilson did with the Jets. Wouldn't that make him a reclamation project?

That said, I'm not optimistic about Lance. The reason why is that the Jets were/are a disaster, while Kyle Shanahan is maybe the best offensive schemer in football. If Lance couldn't succeed under Kyle Shanahan, hard to see him succeeding elsewhere. Still, who knows. Maybe he matures and improves.
 
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I don't consider him a good source on who the Rams like. I think he's making an educated guess there.

Rams probably "like" Simpson, sure. He's shown some shit that fits on film. But liking a player and identifying him at a spot as a target are two different things.

Rams also run a tight ship. So I don't think that fuck knows any more than people posting here.
Perhaps he's not but I've seen from multiple people that the Rams like Simpson. It could be a case of aggregate reporting or it could be a solid rumor.

You know the saying, it's rumor season.
 
Not really. It might extend beyond the first round, but there's a consistent usage. People don't call late round picks reclamation projects. And correct, Warner was not a reclamation project when the Rams signed him. After all, he was a UDFA who washed out of the NFL.

You're not drawing a line that makes much sense here, frankly. Lance put up better numbers in his limited action in 2021 than Darnold and Wilson did with the Jets. Wouldn't that make him a reclamation project?

That said, I'm not optimistic about Lance. The reason why is that the Jets were/are a disaster, while Kyle Shanahan is maybe the best offensive schemer in football. If Lance couldn't succeed under Kyle Shanahan, hard to see him succeeding elsewhere. Still, who knows. Maybe he matures and improves.
Sam Darnold threw 36 td in his first 2 seasons and the Jets were 7-6 in his 2nd year and had he not missed 3 games they might have made a run for the playoffs
Then actually in his last season in Carolina they were 4-2 in his starts on a team that only won 3 other games.
Lance had only started 6 games in his entire career, winning only 2 times. with only 5 td passes
It’s laughable to say that they are comparable in the slightest.
 
Sam Darnold threw 36 td in his first 2 seasons and the Jets were 7-6 in his 2nd year and had he not missed 3 games they might have made a run for the playoffs
Then actually in his last season in Carolina they were 4-2 in his starts on a team that only won 3 other games.
36 TDs in his first 2 seasons means 18 TDs per year. That's not impressive. That's not promising. As for the Jets' record in his second year, their offense ranked 31st in PPG and 32nd in YPG. He was a massive bust. He's not remotely comparable to Baker, who actually had a couple promising years in Cleveland. Kudos to Sam for turning it around, but his NYJ tenure was quite bad.
Lance had only started 6 games in his entire career, winning only 2 times. with only 5 td passes
It’s laughable to say that they are comparable in the slightest.
That's a hell of a straw man argument. I said that your reasoning for why Darnold (and Zach Wilson) showed enough "promise" to be a reclamation project could easily apply to Lance based on his 2021 season. But regardless of that, "reclamation project" is a phrase that is consistently used to describe first round busts getting another shot at making good on their potential. You're redefining the phrase and demanding we all adhere to your definition. That's my objection.
 
I don't consider him a good source on who the Rams like. I think he's making an educated guess there.

Rams probably "like" Simpson, sure. He's shown some shit that fits on film. But liking a player and identifying him at a spot as a target are two different things.

Rams also run a tight ship. So I don't think that fuck knows any more than people posting here.
Why would he say he knows personally if he's guessing?
 
Because he's full of shit.
Or he really knows that someone in the Rams organization or the organization likes the kid.

Some media people have relationships with people in team personnel departments. For example, at one point Riddick and Ray Farmer were up for the same job as Jets GM awhile back. Maybe a relationship was formed then or even before that time. Todd McShay claims to have exchanges with Les Snead. Brugler claims he talks to teams. He got his start by being some sort of intern with scouts or something. It happens.

But as previously stated, that doesn't mean he has any idea what their future draft board may look like or that they plan to take a player, if available, at one of their selections.
 
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Or he really knows that someone in the Rams organization or the organization likes the kid.

But as previously stated, that doesn't mean he has any idea what their future draft board may look like or that they plan to take them, if available at one of their selections.
IMO this would be the first time ever Riddick has had "inside information" on the Rams so color me a skeptic.
 
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IMO this would be the first time ever Riddick has had "inside information" on the Rams so color me a skeptic.
I'm not so sure about that either.

He really seemed to be connecting Mumpfield to the Rams pre-draft just last year. Didn't make sense to me at the time, but maybe he knew something.
 
Sounds like some shit you'd believe. :laugh3:
Sounds like something common sense would allow.:laugh2:

These guys aren't in a bubble 24/7 without relationships around the league. Scouts don't work for and pledge allegiance to the same teams their whole lives. And some media people were even NFL personnel people themselves like Riddick used to be at one time with I believe 2 or 3 different teams. He didn't just put his head down and not talk to or form relationships with anyone.
 
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