duanevalle22
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It's not like I don't trust you.... But I'll rewatch to confirm....... Trust but verify .... I'll get back to you on Monday.
McShay Mocks Us Ty Simpson At 13
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I'm not sure if you meant me with this, but I didn't say either of those things.
I'm saying that both quarterbacks have played at roughly the same level (good and elite respectively), irrespective of the team that they were with or the OC that was in charge.
If you think the Raiders are going to trade out of 1 overall this year... When QB has been a glaring hole for them for years now, when there's a legit top QB prospect sitting there, when Brady has pushed his way into a decision making role as part of the ownership group, and when they have just brought in a top offensive mind to run their program... All I can say is maybe you'd better dial 911 and get them out to your place on the double for an emergency rectocraniectomy.
The problem is I'm not saying McVay isn't good with the quarterbacks, and I absolutely love the guy to death as our head coach, I have jumped into his defence numerous times in the GDT.
I'm saying that I hear on a regular basis that he's fantastic with QBs and whereas his record is very good, it's not like he's brought half a dozen quarterbacks back from the dead.
Just to reiterate, I love McVay., but this always just seemed a little bit strange to me.
TBF, I'd forgotten about Kirk Cousins.
But I'd be interested in digging deeper on the numbers and the players at his disposal Oline etc.
Then again, it seems more and more on message boards that if you're not dying on a hill with your opinion you're out of step and middle-of-the-road opinions have little merit.
Agreed. BPA definitely at R1.13. Then I might go BPA at R1.29.
They can start addressing needs starting R2.
And I was agreeing with you he's done good with a few but overall doesn't have a track record of a QB "whisperer" like the media sometimes makes out. He's more of an overall offense guy and making it better for some QB's than a guy who changes QB's.
McVay won in Washington with Kirk Cousins at QB in his first stint at OC. He took a young nobody QB and put him on the NFL map. His offense was also irritatingly impossible to get off the field.
McVay took over a Rams team that at the time of his hire had a young QB whose name was dogshit in league circles and in the media. And he went to the Super Bowl with that QB.
McVay traded for a veteran QB in Stafford who members of the media were asking "can he win a playoff game" his very first trip to the playoffs with the Rams. Turns out with McVay he won a lot more than that one playoff game.
McVay took Mayfield off the waiver wire, rebuilt his confidence in a quick turnaround during the season, and his career since being with McVay is 180 degrees out from where it was before he played for McVay.
So I would say to answer your question: yes. You have missed a lot.
"Stafford was already a top passer before he came to the Rams. He just needed a team around him"- so that wasnt McVay's influence?
"And he did okay with Goff, but I don't think he got Goff playing above the level he's playing at now."- That's not saying Detroit got more out of him?
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Yeah but 2 sounds better!!!
Honestly going 1-8 on 3rd is a lot worse than missing 2 4th downs though we didn't miss 2 4th downs
So you’re saying there’s a chance… (They’ll trade their #1 draft pick, stay with All Pro Geno Smith and select another TE in R1?!?).
Yeah it is the Raiders.
But I think Brady will be a solid decision maker for Bowlcut. Just someone not being retarded will be a massive upgrade.
I was mostly responding to this bogus idea I've seen around here (not neccessarily from you) that Goff wasn't good until later in Detroit .
TBH this concept of a "QB whisperer" is something i see thrown around but i, not sure if it's even a real thing.
any examples of a QB whisperer?
yeah this oddball "McVay isn't anything special with qbs" really has a strange narrative reality.
Stafford was considered somewhat of a JAG - now he is among the elite. I also forgot about Mayfield.
FWIW I kinda agree with you here.
I think McVay is fantastic at taking an excellent or elite quarterback and getting him in a situation where he can thrive and be in an offense that is one of the best in the NFL.
Taking an average talent and DEVELOPING him into an excellent quarterback? In my mind, that's a different type of coaching skillset.
Only other QB to mention would be Kirk Cousins from back in Washington. Cousins says he "owes his career" to McVay.
Regardless-- McVay sounds like a real tough QB coach. For those that have the talent and can stand the heat, they have a chance for greatness with McVay.
Was looking at the draft value chart for 2026 and it looks like the 13th and 29th pick are worth 1790 points, which place them roughly at pick 4 (1800). Pick 3 is way higher in value, plus Arizona owns it so probably doesn't want to deal with us anyway.
I would not want the Rams to trade up for the record. But Snead and McVay in that draft room with two picks burning holes in their coffee mugs...
I would not want the Rams to trade up for the record. But Snead and McVay in that draft room with two picks burning holes in their coffee mugs...
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Yeah. He could have been sitting on the bench for us for 3 consecutive years. All while his CAREER goes to complete waste. Damn, too bad for us and him.