Kyren Williams future discussion

  • To unlock all of features of Rams On Demand please take a brief moment to register. Registering is not only quick and easy, it also allows you access to additional features such as live chat, private messaging, and a host of other apps exclusive to Rams On Demand.

dieterbrock

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jan 3, 2013
Messages
24,281
Not saying he hasn't. Just saying JT would be better and the only way to see it would be to envision how JT would fit in with a much better team such as the Rams. Guess you also missed the part where I said I wouldn't complain one bit if the Rams re-sign Kyren. I'm more so saying JT is just a better back and it would definitely show in our offense. I find it hilarious that anyone would allow that to rub them the wrong way when everyone knows that JT being a Ram is as realistic as any of us making the team lol. The conversation about this is pure fantasy at the end of the day.
Stop, you've dogged him from the jump over this ridiculous breakaway speed
Now you're contradicting yourself just to avoid giving him credit.
Taylor's breakaway speed does nothing more than give fancy stats. Less 1st downs and less TD's. Less effective
Only 2 guys in Rams history have had back to back 15+ TD seasons, Gurley and Faulk. And when they did it, they won AP offensive player of the year. Now at a mere 24 years old, we got an RB who's done it and we question whether he's worth a 2nd contract?
Good grief
 

gogoat1

Pro Bowler
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
Messages
1,292
Name
Troy
Get off KW. So he might not have break away speed but everything else he does is at a high level.
Just the fact that he stones pass rushers, McVay will keep him around.
The kid from Michigan was just cheap insurance IMO.
Sign Kyren to a contract good for both sides and lets rock.
When we continue to build out O line it will get even better.
Most of us have been clamoring for sticking with the run. And we are getting it, why bitch ?
I mean, McVay ran it on 3rd and 3 Sunday. And got it ! Proud of him ! I wish it was from under center, but I will take it.
We would not have seen that last season. Think he even ran it on 3rd and 6 recently too.
 

20hrswk

UDFA
Joined
Feb 26, 2024
Messages
49
Get off KW. So he might not have break away speed but everything else he does is at a high level.
Just the fact that he stones pass rushers, McVay will keep him around.
The kid from Michigan was just cheap insurance IMO.
Sign Kyren to a contract good for both sides and lets rock.
When we continue to build out O line it will get even better.
Most of us have been clamoring for sticking with the run. And we are getting it, why bitch ?
I mean, McVay ran it on 3rd and 3 Sunday. And got it ! Proud of him ! I wish it was from under center, but I will take it.
We would not have seen that last season. Think he even ran it on 3rd and 6 recently too.
Kyren does many things well.

He is not the same level back as the top 10+ in the league.

PFF ratings through week 15 of 2024.
 

Attachments

  • Kyren Williams compared to rest of league 2024.png
    Kyren Williams compared to rest of league 2024.png
    16.8 KB · Views: 10

gogoat1

Pro Bowler
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
Messages
1,292
Name
Troy
Kyren does many things well.

He is not the same level back as the top 10+ in the league.

PFF ratings through week 15 of 2024.
Save it. I do not think there are 10+ better backs in the NFL.
Keep the one we have and sign to a reasonable contract.
 

jrry32

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jan 14, 2013
Messages
30,122
Stop, you've dogged him from the jump over this ridiculous breakaway speed
Now you're contradicting yourself just to avoid giving him credit.
Taylor's breakaway speed does nothing more than give fancy stats. Less 1st downs and less TD's. Less effective
Only 2 guys in Rams history have had back to back 15+ TD seasons, Gurley and Faulk. And when they did it, they won AP offensive player of the year. Now at a mere 24 years old, we got an RB who's done it and we question whether he's worth a 2nd contract?
Good grief
TDs are situational statistic. Gurley had 12 TDs in 2019 after his knees were shot. Some HBs are better than others at converting TDs, and Kyren certainly is good at it. But opportunity also plays a major role in it. Jonathan Taylor had 18 rushing TDs in 2021 and 11 rushing TDs as a rookie in 2020. It's not a skill he suddenly lost. I don't question whether Kyren is worth a second contract. I question whether he's worth the second contract he'll command.
 

Londoner

Twitchy sophomore.
Joined
Apr 29, 2023
Messages
2,617
Just think how many TDs KW would have if McVay didn’t go with an empty backfield inside the ten-yard line all the bloody time!
 

Ramstien

Hall of Fame
Joined
Oct 15, 2016
Messages
2,566
Name
Ramstien
I don't know if it is just me or what, but Williams seem to have a little Faulk in him and is also an underrated blocker.
 

Loyal

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jul 27, 2010
Messages
30,822
I love me some Todd Gurley now with his breakaway speed and smarts!
I remember in his first year, he broke away from all Cardinal(?) defenders and just lay down on the one yard line to let the time run down.. He could have had a TD, but chose to secure the win instead.
If I'm drafting a RB in the 1st round, it would be a Jahmyr Gibbs-like player. But we didn't draft Kyren in the first round and look at the production he has had for the team, which has been great. He is shifty with great awareness. He doesn't quit, ever. He's a blocking son-of-a-gun and TD machine! Will he hit a wall after a new contract? I don't know, but you roll the dice with this kid. I say re-sign him, Demoff!
 

dang

Legend
Joined
Mar 15, 2018
Messages
7,661
Save it. I do not think there are 10+ better backs in the NFL.
Keep the one we have and sign to a reasonable contract.
KWill is definately a top 10 RB this year. No 2 RBs are the same so comparing them is difficult. But his ability to set up his blocks, get yards after contact yardage and score are special. Best the Rams have had since 2017 Gurley (I’m projecting KWill to finish stronger than 2018 Gurley).
 
Last edited:

RamsSince1969

Ram It, Do You Know How To Ram It, Ram It
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jul 27, 2010
Messages
3,678
I love me some Todd Gurley now with his breakaway speed and smarts!
I remember in his first year, he broke away from all Cardinal(?) defenders and just lay down on the one yard line to let the time run down.. He could have had a TD, but chose to secure the win instead.
If I'm drafting a RB in the 1st round, it would be a Jahmyr Gibbs-like player. But we didn't draft Kyren in the first round and look at the production he has had for the team, which has been great. He is shifty with great awareness. He doesn't quit, ever. He's a blocking son-of-a-gun and TD machine! Will he hit a wall after a new contract? I don't know, but you roll the dice with this kid. I say re-sign him, Demoff!
Gurley was similar to the worlds most perfect beautiful stallion. This is still one of my favorite Rams photos in my 63 years of life.
 

Attachments

  • Gurley.jpg
    Gurley.jpg
    70.3 KB · Views: 2

RhodyRams

Insert something clever here
Rams On Demand Sponsor
SportsBook Bookie
Moderator
Joined
Dec 10, 2012
Messages
12,470
the Moderators apologize for having a life and not acting faster on all this

Its been handled
 

Memphis Ram

Legend
Joined
Jun 26, 2010
Messages
7,442
Given his size and current usage, I question if Kyren is going to hold up enough to make a large second contract a good investment. Last I checked he's played about 100 more snaps than the next NFL RB this season.

It might make the most business sense to let Kyren play out his contract and then make a decision during the 2026 free agency period. They could then franchise him for a season, re-sign him to an agreeable contract, or move on.

He's a good RB. But, with the possible exception of punter and long snapper, finding a good RB might be the easiest thing for an NFL personnel person to find, IMO.

The ultimate goal is the Super Bowl and remember this team won one with a Sony Michel / Darryl Henderson combination.
 

Faceplant

Still celebrating Superbowl LVI
Rams On Demand Sponsor
2023 ROD Pick'em Champion
Joined
Aug 11, 2010
Messages
10,113
the Moderators apologize for having a life and not acting faster on all this

Its been handled
Unacceptable!! We are children and we need our mommies to protect us from the meanies!!!
 

jrry32

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jan 14, 2013
Messages
30,122
KWill is definately a top 10 RB this year. No 2 RBs are the same so comparing them is difficult. But his ability to set up his blocks, get yards after contact yardage and score are special. Best the Rams have had since 2017 Gurley (I’m projecting KWill to finish stronger than 2018 Gurley).
2018 Gurley was an absolute monster until his injury. Kyren isn't that good. Not a knock on him. Gurley was playing at a near MVP level.
 

Kupped

Legend
Joined
Aug 5, 2021
Messages
8,787
Name
Kupped
Gurley was similar to the world’s most perfect beautiful stallion. This is still one of my favorite Rams photos in my 63 years of life.
Was at that game..

Gurley was an all-time talent… only health prevented him from having a HOF career.
 

Loyal

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jul 27, 2010
Messages
30,822
2018 Gurley was an absolute monster until his injury. Kyren isn't that good. Not a knock on him. Gurley was playing at a near MVP level.
Gurley was. It was an outright shame his career lasted so short of a time.