Garrett Reynolds or Travis Bond or Brandon Washington or any of the other not as great players that might make the roster. Like it or not, he's better than some guys on the team. Hell, I'd carry an extra OL and cut one of our RBs in Watts or Pead or any of them.
Joe Barksdale signs with Chargers
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Garrett Reynolds or Travis Bond or Brandon Washington or any of the other not as great players that might make the roster. Like it or not, he's better than some guys on the team. Hell, I'd carry an extra OL and cut one of our RBs in Watts or Pead or any of them.
lockdnram21
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12intheBox
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I think Bond and Washington may be on the outside looking in as it is. I think Reynolds would have been the battle - but I'm thinking positional flexibility would win out. Or am I wrong in thinking that Joe can't play guard?
lockdnram21
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He probably did. there is nothing another $100K cannot fix. I have no confidence this staff can get their OL rookies ready by game 1 or even this year.
I don't know if he's played guard, but his huge size and dominating run blocking would translate well. Also, he struggles with speed rushers but he wouldn't have a problem with that at guard. I think he very well could. Probably not any worse than Reynolds.
Either way, even if those guys are on the outside looking in, I'd rather keep Joe at that cheap price than keep a guy like Pead or Watts or any other player that might make it purely because of ST that can be replaced.
lockdnram21
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Well I think there going in the right direction by letting him go. I s sorry but imo he was horrible vs our division in pass protection
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12intheBox
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Its hard to fill out the 53 man roster with an eye on making sure that your STs are all covered.
Covering kicks seems replaceable and trivial until you give up a long return.
We have the players to do it. We can put Bailey or Joyner or McLeod or any of those guys back on STs. It's not like we don't have the players.
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I know Bailey can get it done - I've seen it. Didn't get to see Joyner enough to say that he 'can do it' - but I know he got a look out there last year. It is a skill though - not just the kind of thing you can throw an athletic body at and call it a day.
Can you imagine the tension in the room on cut day? The ST coach, the OC, and the DC all out to make sure that their guys make it - but someone's guys are going to get the axe.
Yeah, it's tough. Someone is going to have to get cut. I'd just rather have an extra reliable vet on this young OL, and I think it's more beneficial than some other positions on the team, but I agree with you that you can't neglect other positions either. It's over now with Barksdale, obviously they disagreed with me, we'll see what they do from here.
I think we made a mistake in not bringing him back on a prove it deal. This team can never have enough depth on the OL (we always suffer injuries there) and it would have been nice to have a veteran presence. But oh well, it is what it is.
Pretty sure Joe was mad with us and not sure if he wanted the challenge of beating out our second round draft pick after all Snisher have piled on about the big kid with the belly fat.( I'm not happy JB did'nt think he could'nt beat out a rookie) Loved the PSU kid so much better who went before us even when Snead wanted to trade up, I believe for him. Think Bucs got my guy. Now Havenstein is my guy and JB is now playing on another prove it deal at a fairly young age to get a nice bigger contract, if he performs.
But was'nt that what he was on last year when all hell broke loose with Joseph, Wells and the pass rushers from the skins and chiefs both got 3 sacks a piece off ol'e JB. Many want to blame it on Joseph and Wells forcing JB to try and help more inside first and then got his lunch handed to him from 2 guys and 1 is just coming into his own on the skins thanks to JB.
Don't think JB could be a better guard than who and what we have now on the squad. So it was another versatility thing.
But was'nt that what he was on last year when all hell broke loose with Joseph, Wells and the pass rushers from the skins and chiefs both got 3 sacks a piece off ol'e JB. Many want to blame it on Joseph and Wells forcing JB to try and help more inside first and then got his lunch handed to him from 2 guys and 1 is just coming into his own on the skins thanks to JB.
Don't think JB could be a better guard than who and what we have now on the squad. So it was another versatility thing.
CodeMonkey
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That's cheap. It's not really possible that we could have offered much less, if any at all.
In San Diego JB is supposedly being told that he can be the RT. In St Louis he might start the season as the starter, but Havenstein is likely to take over whenever he is ready. Can't say as I blame him - if he starts the full season and does okay he should get a lot more money next year.
Plus, he probably is a little peeved that the Rams told him his market value, stuck to it, and then were proven correct. Gotta hurt JB's ego a little.
Plus, he probably is a little peeved that the Rams told him his market value, stuck to it, and then were proven correct. Gotta hurt JB's ego a little.
Market money is what SD payed him. Anything wrong to given him 20% more and is Barksdale not worth $1.2+ million to a team that is ranked near bottom in their OL capabilities?