Jalen Ramsey traded to Pittsburgh

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Even the best reporters play connect the dots - especially when they know no one is going to officially refute their story. A reporter really has nothing to lose on these kinds of stories. But if they are repeatedly cited by others in media, they are getting clicks and looks. That’s primarily how they are making their money these days.

The Rams are not going to reveal any of the negotiations and neither were the Steelers or the phins. Breer could have easily heard the Rams gave Miami a call as soon as the word that Ramsey wanted out hit the presses. I’m sure the Rams did call them at that point or maybe Miami contacted Les as soon as Ramsey made his position known.

Did they go much deeper into negotiations than that? Who knows. But from what our organization was saying, it didn’t look like they were taking it all that seriously - probably from sticker shock and realizing they were not going to go anywhere near where other teams might.

Ramsey has made it clear that he loved his time with the Rams. The Rams are known for the “all in” narrative. Les is known for making bold moves. The league knows Les is not afraid to pick up the phone and test the waters. The entire media and most of the fan base consider our CB room to be a glaring weakness. Connect the dots.

I tend to belief Breer has solid sources. He’s one of the better reporters imo. I don’t think he risks the reputation that took years to build by simply connecting the dots, and reporting things as factual. That’s more a tactic for people trying to get lucky.

Either way it doesn’t matter. If you choose to think Breer is faking his reports, it’s no skin off my back.
 

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I tend to belief Breer has solid sources. He’s one of the better reporters imo. I don’t think he risks the reputation that took years to build by simply connecting the dots, and reporting things as factual. That’s more a tactic for people trying to get lucky.

Either way it doesn’t matter. If you choose to think Breer is faking his reports, it’s no skin off my back.
I'd like to know what the Rams were offering. Maybe it'll eventually come out.

Breer, like any other good reporter, quotes sources. I don't think that he's faking anything, as all he has said is, the Rams were the only other team 'interested'.

He wouldn't lose any credibility if it became known, they only offered a 6th round pick and wanted Miami to pay some cash. That qualifies as 'interested'.

Like I said hopefully we'll eventually find out to what degree.
 

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Please don't. I stated my opinion....... Once........ and I am not a paint sprayer
It's just that you stated an opinion with 100% certainty and that is just begging for an argument.

Now if you had said that Ramsey probably would have been beaten whether AD got to Burrow or not, then I would have zero problem with your statement. It's your opinion and you could be right. I just have a different opinion and I could be right.

Don't know and don't really care any more about that - it's just the 100% certainty statement that I have a beef with.

Cheers
 

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I can't believe I checked back in on this thread 48 hours ago and you all are still arguing over the same shit. Let it die already, pop a beer, take a bong hit, something, damn.
 

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I swear this place turns into a sewing circle this time of year. Some of you will bicker over fucking ANYTHING.

Also, Ramsey was beat like a rented mule on the final play of SB56. AD did AD things and saved the Rams season.

Argue with a paint sprayer....
Way to try to add fuel to a fire.

You found a meat beater. Was always a Jalen Fan just to keep it together.

I like Ahkello SO much more & his upside is nice.He brings a lot to the table.Ramsey is a great player.He is an excellent tackler.He does get exposed at times & even if he was beat,he could have read the play well ?! It’s SO in the past.

Emanuel Forbes is going to be a joy to watch as a Ram.He has such a high skill level.That reach & body control. IMO - he’ll make a play in 2025 that’s jaw breaking.
 

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Also - the Steelers letting Ahkello go was a mistake. We’ll all see on Sunday’s that The Rams played there cards right.

Especially with Alaric Jackson getting a blood clot.Being able to sign to veteran OT’s is such a luxury.
The hope is Alaric Jackson is healthy,but in the meantime The Rams push players to be better.

Mcvay believes in team & players growth .The willingness to learn & continue to improve, AJ is a perfect example of that.McClendon needs to earn his spot.
 

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I can't believe I checked back in on this thread 48 hours ago and you all are still arguing over the same shit. Let it die already, pop a beer, take a bong hit, something, damn.
I am no longer arguing about the play. I am just stating I have beefs with 100% certainty statements. Pet peeve of mine. Sue me.

If you ever see me say something, I almost always say "I believe" unless I am stating a statistic. If I don't, well I meant to and you can call me out on it. And I will admit to it every time.

Edit - Maybe I should just post this from now on whenever I see a 100% certainty statement. Probably just save a lot of time.

the dude your opinion GIF
 
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3 things I'm sure of as a 62 year old: death (no explanation needed), taxes (thank God I dont pay CA taxes though), and just because you get the last word in doesn't mean you win the argument. Sometimes conversations can just die with no winners or losers.
 

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Unflattering report emerges about Jalen Ramsey’s Dolphins tenure​

The Miami Dolphins traded cornerback Jalen Ramsey last week, but some new claims suggest that the move was a long time coming.

Miami Sun-Sentinel sports columnist Dave Hyde wrote this week that Ramsey had worn out his welcome with the Dolphins thanks to some controversial behavior over the past few years. Hyde claims that Ramsey was regularly late to practices, and would at times show up while the rest of the team was already stretching.

In addition, Ramsey was accused of undermining former defensive coordinator Vic Fangio in 2023, and supposedly did the same to coach Mike McDaniel in 2024 “in a manner that spread like a bad odor through the larger team.”

Interestingly, the Dolphins signed Ramsey to a big new contract while all this was going on. At that point, they clearly felt that either Ramsey was not a big problem, or that the issues were worth putting up with to keep his high-level play. The frustration with Fangio was not much of a secret at that point, though by that point, the defensive coordinator had left the organization.

Ramsey was ultimately traded to the Pittsburgh Steelers, who got former Dolphins DB Minkah Fitzpatrick back in return. There were some signals that the Los Angeles Rams were motivated to move on from Ramsey in 2023, so one could argue this is becoming a trend.
 

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Interesting. The Rams like to keep things "in house", so it might not be 'media knowledge', but I wonder if anything like that brought on his trade to Miami?

Remember, he pulled some stuff in Jacksonville to get traded too. IIRC, some injury that miraculously healed in L.A.
 

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I'd like to know what the Rams were offering. Maybe it'll eventually come out.

Breer, like any other good reporter, quotes sources. I don't think that he's faking anything, as all he has said is, the Rams were the only other team 'interested'.

He wouldn't lose any credibility if it became known, they only offered a 6th round pick and wanted Miami to pay some cash. That qualifies as 'interested'.

Like I said hopefully we'll eventually find out to what degree.

I’d love to know also. I could be completely wrong and the Steelers did bid against themselves. Cowherd seems to think they are making moves just for the sake of making moves, because they don’t make a lot of sense. Like trading Minkah who is younger and cheaper for Jalen, or trading a problem child reveiver in Pickens only to acquire similar problem child in DK Metcalf.
 

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McDaniel is a strong OC but a weak head coach. So if those rumors are true the Dolphins additionally have been making excuses for Ramsey and enabling his worst behaviors.

They're a shitty org.
 

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I’d love to know also. I could be completely wrong and the Steelers did bid against themselves. Cowherd seems to think they are making moves just for the sake of making moves, because they don’t make a lot of sense. Like trading Minkah who is younger and cheaper for Jalen, or trading a problem child reveiver in Pickens only to acquire similar problem child in DK Metcalf.
They signed Rodgers so they're rolling the dice! Reminds me of the fishing trip in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest. "This is Doctor Ramsey and here is Dr Metcalf and this is Professor Rodgers.'
 

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Read this morning that the squealers are possibly going to play Ramsey at safety and that Ramsey likes that idea. First I've heard of this but it's probably a smart "move".

But...

Paying a safety $26 million a year (or whatever the fuck giant amount) is stupid if you're asking me.
 

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Read this morning that the squealers are possibly going to play Ramsey at safety and that Ramsey likes that idea. First I've heard of this but it's probably a smart "move".

But...

Paying a safety $26 million a year (or whatever the fuck giant amount) is stupid if you're asking me.

That is a lot for a safety. I wonder if he will really be an upgrade over Minkah. Maybe they want him to play SS, so he can neutralize the Ravens running attack. That’s how I’d want him playing if the Rams had traded for him.
 

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That is a lot for a safety. I wonder if he will really be an upgrade over Minkah. Maybe they want him to play SS, so he can neutralize the Ravens running attack. That’s how I’d want him playing if the Rams had traded for him.


When Brandon Staley coached him with the Rams he would use Ramsey all over the D... sometimes like a hybrid LB even. Back then, Ramsey still seemed to relish the physical tackling he was always known for. It really took advantage of some of his rare skill-sets at times.

However...

I have watched his playing style change a lot since we shipped him to South Beach. He doesn't relish the physical part of the game nowadays like he used to. Hell, I watched him straight up avoid getting even involved in a tackle last year. Something he would have NEVER done in the past. This wasn't just an older player saving his body either... it was straight up avoidance of getting physical at all. It surprised me big time because I've been watching Ramsey play since he was a Nole and I had never seen him play anything like that before. The way it looks to me is... if the squealers expect him to lay some wood like he's always been known for, they're likely to be very disappointed and may not have him on the field for very many games.

But hey, maybe he was just playing like Marcus Peters and running from contact because he wanted out of that clown show down there. Sounds like he was showing up late for practices and undermining the coaches too. So who really knows. It was just so shocking for me to see him completely avoid contact like I watched him do countless times last season.