Jalen Ramsey traded to Pittsburgh

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He has a ring, and knows winning another is a long shot. His name can still get top dollar from some teams in the league. I don't begrudge Ramsey for getting what he can, while he can.

Oh well, I would have liked him back in the horns. This was not a make or break for the Rams season. If it is they have way more issues than any of us are talking about.
 

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Anyone else think the steelers gonna implode this season? Lots of aging players and lots of egos.....
Yesterday, after seeing several posters predict failure in Pittsburgh, I made a quick positive comment regarding the 2025 Steelers. Just some roster thoughts below.

Age is certainly a factor; and bringing in so many Name-Guys could blow-up in their faces.
Could be another version of the 2011 Eagles Dream Team that also had a successful veteran head coach.

That said, I think the Steelers are going to be good ... and I am right about this stuff 23.17% of the time!

They are better at Quarterback
Rodgers is an asshole (my opinion), and not the player he was but he's better than what the Steelers have had at QB in recent seasons ... also just my opinion.

They are better at WR/TE
Metcalf is kind of a D-bag ... but not as big a D-bag as Pickens ... and he is more talented than Pickens.
I really liked Roman Wilson in the 2024 Draft. Missed much of the '24 season but should be ready to go; and Gabe Davis may be added. Throw-in Calvin Austin and Cordarrelle Patterson, plus three former Rams.

Jonnu Smith joins Freiermuth and a monster in Darnell Washington for three diverse talents at tight end.

The Backfield looks solid
They replace one power-back (Harris) with another (rookie Kaleb Johnson) to compliment Warren; and there's depth at the position.

The Key may be the O-Line but there is young talent at the position, including two recent, highly-regarded first round draft choices (Jones and Fautanu) at OT.

The Defense ... traditionally solid ... is old (Heyward, Watt, Slay and Ramsey are all 30-plus) but it's talented, with recent high draft choices (Porter, Harmon, Benton and Wilson). Throw-in recent free agents (LB Queen and S Elliott), plus solid veteran Highsmith opposite Watt ... both backed-up at Edge by rookie Jack Sawyer.

Not rooting for the Steelers but THAT seems like a very good roster to me.
 

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I think the Steelers will be very good this year. They may be on the 30 plus side of age. But their veteran savvy will make age a nonissue. The Steelers might give the Ravens a run for their money.
 

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Yesterday, after seeing several posters predict failure in Pittsburgh, I made a quick positive comment regarding the 2025 Steelers. Just some roster thoughts below.

Age is certainly a factor; and bringing in so many Name-Guys could blow-up in their faces.
Could be another version of the 2011 Eagles Dream Team that also had a successful veteran head coach.

That said, I think the Steelers are going to be good ... and I am right about this stuff 23.17% of the time!

They are better at Quarterback
Rodgers is an asshole (my opinion), and not the player he was but he's better than what the Steelers have had at QB in recent seasons ... also just my opinion.

They are better at WR/TE
Metcalf is kind of a D-bag ... but not as big a D-bag as Pickens ... and he is more talented than Pickens.
I really liked Roman Wilson in the 2024 Draft. Missed much of the '24 season but should be ready to go; and Gabe Davis may be added. Throw-in Calvin Austin and Cordarrelle Patterson, plus three former Rams.

Jonnu Smith joins Freiermuth and a monster in Darnell Washington for three diverse talents at tight end.

The Backfield looks solid
They replace one power-back (Harris) with another (rookie Kaleb Johnson) to compliment Warren; and there's depth at the position.

The Key may be the O-Line but there is young talent at the position, including two recent, highly-regarded first round draft choices (Jones and Fautanu) at OT.

The Defense ... traditionally solid ... is old (Heyward, Watt, Slay and Ramsey are all 30-plus) but it's talented, with recent high draft choices (Porter, Harmon, Benton and Wilson). Throw-in recent free agents (LB Queen and S Elliott), plus solid veteran Highsmith opposite Watt ... both backed-up at Edge by rookie Jack Sawyer.

Not rooting for the Steelers but THAT seems like a very good roster to me.

No doubt the Steelers have talent on their team, but IMO it's an aging talent, with a HC that reminds of Jeff Fisher. Great defensive mind but hasn't grasped the concept that he needs a competent offense to compete in the NFL. Since Big Ben has retired the Steelers have on a slow downward spiral in the NFL rankings. Yes, their defense has carried them for many years but with aging vets, and a bunch of divas on their team it's just a matter of time until that team is at a point of no return. Obviously this is all hypothetical and winning cures most deficiencies.

I'll say this, if the Steelers start out the season slow and get off to a rocky start, I think Tomlin is gone by mid season.
 

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No doubt the Steelers have talent on their team, but IMO it's an aging talent, with a HC that reminds of Jeff Fisher. Great defensive mind but hasn't grasped the concept that he needs a competent offense to compete in the NFL. Since Big Ben has retired the Steelers have on a slow downward spiral in the NFL rankings. Yes, their defense has carried them for many years but with aging vets, and a bunch of divas on their team it's just a matter of time until that team is at a point of no return. Obviously this is all hypothetical and winning cures most deficiencies.

I'll say this, if the Steelers start out the season slow and get off to a rocky start, I think Tomlin is gone by mid season.

Very possible.

Without a clear rooting-interest, the AFC Steelers should be a fun and interesting watch for Rams' fans.
 

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I look at that play at the end of this video and I don't see him in celebratory jump mode. I see him crapping his pants and falling on his face when he realizes he's beaten for what could have been the TD that lost the Super Bowl.

Agreed! Looks like he just fell down--I don't see anything that looks like a celebration, AND he shouldn't have been looking back at the QB anyway in that situation, so it was bad technique at the very least. Anyway, unless Ramsey himself is claiming that he saw the sack and then fell down trying to celebrate, I don't see anything that shows that on the All-22.

Ramsey also blew the coverage early on that last drive at the 27 of the Bengals, Ramsey goes hard for the interception and ends up letting Chase get away to the 42...and out of bounds. So, instead of tackling Chase for a short gain IN BOUNDS at the 27, Ramsey goes for the INT or breakup and misses by about 10 feet--didn't even come close to the ball.

Again, this is not to say that that final play meant anything--it didn't because it didn't count. I think what we're trying to say is that Ramsey didn't play that well in the playoffs that season.

Also, this kind of thing is so sad because it does prove that you can't listen to guys on the internet who solemnly swear that something happened. You can't ever believe it unless they SHOW you the proof.
 

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I'm glad this drama is over. And while I appreciate the contributions he made while here, I also think those that are observing him falling off a little in the Super Bowl run are onto something. Not that Ramsey sucks, but he's not worth the money we would have had to pay him. I'm also looking forward to the possibility of Forbes making this issue moot.
 

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A couple milliseconds is more like it. And if you examine this thread, you'll see Allen2 McVay agrees with me.
Milliseconds vs seconds - it still happened AFTER Ramsey looked back - saw Donald wrapping up Burrow and then falling down.

No matter how you put it - it still happened after.

And that is what people are agreeing with me. Not the milliseconds vs seconds bullcrap.

In this picture it is fuzzy but in full speed shows Ramsey looking back. But he was still on his guy at this point.

And this picture shows Donald wrapping up Burrow. Jalen then fell. Milliseconds after but still after Donald was wrapping up.

And that is my final point on this.

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People that think fractions of seconds are whole seconds? That imagine people are jumping and then decide they didn't when it doesn't fit their narrative? Who are these people?
And as to the jumping up, I recall seeing another angle of Ramsey back in 2021 and it kinda looked like he jumped and then fell.

But that was in 2021 when I reviewed this play and maybe I just imagined it. This angle doesn't show it so I can't say if he did or not.
 

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Milliseconds vs seconds - it still happened AFTER Ramsey looked back - saw Donald wrapping up Burrow and then falling down.

No matter how you put it - it still happened after.

And that is what people are agreeing with me. Not the milliseconds vs seconds bullcrap.

In this picture it is fuzzy but in full speed shows Ramsey looking back. But he was still on his guy at this point.

And this picture shows Donald wrapping up Burrow. Jalen then fell. Milliseconds after but still after Donald was wrapping up.

And that is my final point on this.

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Guess we should just not give a shit about all the other great plays Ramsey made for us huh lol.....Ramsey can still ball. He just won't be doing it on a winning team and that's his loss. Honestly I see your point. Definitely a crazy woulda coulda type conversation.
 

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Theres our answer. Money is more important to Ramsey than a ring is.
Wait, what?
What does money have to do with it? He surely has a better chance of playing for a winner in Pittsburgh than he does in Miami. As far as money is concerned, he's going to have to pay a crap ton more in state income tax in PA than he would have in Miami
 

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I'm just glad we didn't spend that crazy money. We are going to need it for future extensions for our young players. Puka will want to be paid first after this season.
 

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Yesterday, after seeing several posters predict failure in Pittsburgh, I made a quick positive comment regarding the 2025 Steelers. Just some roster thoughts below.

Age is certainly a factor; and bringing in so many Name-Guys could blow-up in their faces.
Could be another version of the 2011 Eagles Dream Team that also had a successful veteran head coach.

That said, I think the Steelers are going to be good ... and I am right about this stuff 23.17% of the time!

They are better at Quarterback
Rodgers is an asshole (my opinion), and not the player he was but he's better than what the Steelers have had at QB in recent seasons ... also just my opinion.

They are better at WR/TE
Metcalf is kind of a D-bag ... but not as big a D-bag as Pickens ... and he is more talented than Pickens.
I really liked Roman Wilson in the 2024 Draft. Missed much of the '24 season but should be ready to go; and Gabe Davis may be added. Throw-in Calvin Austin and Cordarrelle Patterson, plus three former Rams.

Jonnu Smith joins Freiermuth and a monster in Darnell Washington for three diverse talents at tight end.

The Backfield looks solid
They replace one power-back (Harris) with another (rookie Kaleb Johnson) to compliment Warren; and there's depth at the position.

The Key may be the O-Line but there is young talent at the position, including two recent, highly-regarded first round draft choices (Jones and Fautanu) at OT.

The Defense ... traditionally solid ... is old (Heyward, Watt, Slay and Ramsey are all 30-plus) but it's talented, with recent high draft choices (Porter, Harmon, Benton and Wilson). Throw-in recent free agents (LB Queen and S Elliott), plus solid veteran Highsmith opposite Watt ... both backed-up at Edge by rookie Jack Sawyer.

Not rooting for the Steelers but THAT seems like a very good roster to me.
They should be good. (They also added Joey Bosa). Are they a playoff team in the AFC? I’d say a likely wild card. I don’t think they are better than the Ravens, Bills, or Broncos.

Rodgers is more of a game manager these days. . Robert Woods is their number 2 receiver on the depth chart right now. I don’t think DK is much, if any of an upgrade over Pickens. Age is likely to be a factor but they have been reloading nicely lately. TJ Watt didn’t have a stat in the final three games of the season. Heyward is still able to be good against the run. Bosa didn’t look good either the Chargers.

I like Cowherd’s take on this. He pointed out that the teams that spend on offense are the last teams standing in the playoffs. The Steelers have the most expensive defense in the league.
 

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They should be good. (They also added Joey Bosa). Are they a playoff team in the AFC? I’d say a likely wild card. I don’t think they are better than the Ravens, Bills, or Broncos.

Rodgers is more of a game manager these days. . Robert Woods is their number 2 receiver on the depth chart right now. I don’t think DK is much, if any of an upgrade over Pickens. Age is likely to be a factor but they have been reloading nicely lately. TJ Watt didn’t have a stat in the final three games of the season. Heyward is still able to be good against the run. Bosa didn’t look good either the Chargers.

I like Cowherd’s take on this. He pointed out that the teams that spend on offense are the last teams standing in the playoffs. The Steelers have the most expensive defense in the league.
Bosa is with the Bills
 

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I am really not pro-Steelers. This is just another observation.

Looking at their roster, I only count six projected starters 30 or older, and three (Ramsey, Watt and Seumalo) are 30 or 31. By comparison, the Rams project to have seven starters 30 or older.