It's getting ridiculous

[payote75]

The last 2 seasons, the worst defense in the NFL allowed 27.2 (Chicago; 2022) and 29.6 (NYJ; 2021) but you think we're "constructed" to give up 35 PPG? Seems a bit of an exaggeration. We're not even done being constructed yet. And any defense with Aaron Donald on it WILL NOT be the worst defense in the league. I would be willing to bet on that.

Your point "its extremely hard to do it that way" meaning what way? Rebuilding the offense by getting the OL healthy, the QB and WRs healthy and adding a little to the whole thing? Rebuild the defense by keeping your best overall defender, your best young defender and adding to it with new talent? Both?

I know you're probably in that camp, "the OL sucked before injuries began", so I won't convince you of anything there. Maybe just settle for you being surprised. On the defense, they have a way to go but thankfully, it's March 24th and all the available free agents haven't been signed by everybody else nor have all the good draft picks been taken.

Truth is right now we're in the same boat as half the league. If you don't believe that, take a look around.

Well I also said "until the plan is known or basically till we see the complete roster to start the season.

Having said that I have no reason to be sunshine and rainbows about the o-line til proven otherwise as the best ability is availability so I will stick to what I said the line being a question mark. I don't believe that to be an out landish take.

Lastly AD cannot play 4 different positions and isn't getting younger fact remains we need to see the entire picture which is basically the jist of my post. As far as the 35 PTS it's an obvious exaggeration but as currently constituted it would not shock me if they were one of or the worst defenses in the league even with AD. It's moot almost to engage RT now as the roster is too incomplete but yea I'm not sold on the o-line by any stretch and I don't see how anyone could be based on what???

 

[OldSchool]

Unless it's Jack Campbell

Nope even then! Especially then because somebody will give us a haul of picks for the right to draft him.

 

[TheTackle]

I am A little late to the party in this thread. I trust in our brass but am completely stunned by how many players we have let go, often for 1 year deals, and sometimes peanuts

 

[PARAM]

I am A little late to the party in this thread. I trust in our brass but am completely stunned by how many players we have let go, often for 1 year deals, and sometimes peanuts

Yeah, it's hard to see that many walk out the door but we hardly lost any on offense. Edwards? I don't know if it would have been better to lose 8 guys, 4 on offense, 4 on defense. Seems that would surely kill the season, though many believe the 8 on defense already has.

 

[ottoman89]

Yeah, it's hard to see that many walk out the door but we hardly lost any on offense. Edwards? I don't know if it would have been better to lose 8 guys, 4 on offense, 4 on defense. Seems that would surely kill the season, though many believe the 8 on defense already has.

I'm not worried about the Offense. They'll add a few weapons I'm sure. I'm just terrified of the Defense but won't be 100% panicking until I see all the moves and the opening game roster.

 

[Karate61]

And, here we are!

 

[PARAM]

Well I also said "until the plan is known or basically till we see the complete roster to start the season.

Having said that I have no reason to be sunshine and rainbows about the o-line til proven otherwise as the best ability is availability so I will stick to what I said the line being a question mark. I don't believe that to be an out landish take.

Lastly AD cannot play 4 different positions and isn't getting younger fact remains we need to see the entire picture which is basically the jist of my post. As far as the 35 PTS it's an obvious exaggeration but as currently constituted it would not shock me if they were one of or the worst defenses in the league even with AD. It's moot almost to engage RT now as the roster is too incomplete but yea I'm not sold on the o-line by any stretch and I don't see how anyone could be based on what???

I don't believe anybody is sunshine and rainbows about any part of this off season other than freeing up all kinds of money for 2024. I haven't seen any but even if there were 1 or 2, that's exponentially less than the number of those looking down from the ledge at their toes sticking out!!

Defense will be a project, but let's talk OL. Perhaps there are some who remember the progression of the 2021 SB Champion OL and don't believe it's the huge question mark some others do. A progression that started when they let Saffold and Sullivan walk after 2018. Noteboom went to LG but left in week 6 for the season. Allen and Havenstein left in week 9 for the season. Kromer had 3/5's of his line gone but managed to coach the reserves up to be decent. The Rams traded for Corbett, a bust in Cleveland. They put rookies David Edwards and Bobby Evans in the lineup and they both were playing fairly well at the end of the season. The point is, they got experienced. The next year Corbett and Edwards were starters, Evans was a flop at G and Noteboom moved back to being Whitworth's backup covering for him in 7 games and another 2 for Edwards at LG. In 2021 they discovered Shelton and Alaric Jackson could play, while Noteboom again covered for Whitworth twice and another time in a crucial playoff game in Tampa. Last year, with a dearth of injuries unequalled in NFL history, they discovered Brewer could play, though he's a free agent (I doubt he gets many offers except maybe a return to L.A.) and they had Anchrum ready to go as their #6 OL and he's back. Arcuri started a game and didn't embarrass himself. They also grabbed 5th round pick from Chicago, Zach Thomas. Right now they have Havenstein, Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Shelton, Anchrum, Thomas, Arcuri and Bruss going into the draft. They'll probably come out with more help there and most certainly sign a couple of UDFAs. So although, there's no reason to think it'll be a return to the 2018 OL, there's not too many reasons to believe they can't put together a decent OL. Will they improve as the year moves along? Who knows? I don't know how good the new OL coach is going to be so that's a bigger unknown than the guys we have on roster. We'll see.

But we have fans who are already conceding the 2023 season. "We won't be competetive, let alone make the post season." 'All that dead money!!' As I mentioned in another thread, the 2021 Rams (you remember the SB Champs) carried 49.435 mil in dead money, compared to the whopping 50.773 we're carrying this year. A difference of 1.338 mil. "All those OL questions!!", "All those defenders out the door!!" Okay that last one is a huge unknown. There's a long way to go. The rest of free agency. The draft. More free agency. OTA's. Mini camp. Training camp. Etc. Hell, I haven't even signed up for YouTubeTV yet!!!!

 

[dang]

I’m not excited about watching the Rams getting beat soundly by good teams and struggle against average teams in 2023 but I am very interested in watching the “renovation” plan in action in 2023/2024. I want to see good young talent brought in, assessed and integrated into sustained foundational success. Then I’ll be excited as they add select seasoned vets to complete the “renovation” resulting in sustained dominating success.

 

[Allen2McVay]

And, here we are!
View attachment 59251

That's tough to look at.

There's Six Defensive Starters above, including ... arguably ... the five best after Aaron Donald.

Seeing Riley Dixon up there does make me feel just a little-bit-better.

 

[payote75]

I don't believe anybody is sunshine and rainbows about any part of this off season other than freeing up all kinds of money for 2024. I haven't seen any but even if there were 1 or 2, that's exponentially less than the number of those looking down from the ledge at their toes sticking out!!

Defense will be a project, but let's talk OL. Perhaps there are some who remember the progression of the 2021 SB Champion OL and don't believe it's the huge question mark some others do. A progression that started when they let Saffold and Sullivan walk after 2018. Noteboom went to LG but left in week 6 for the season. Allen and Havenstein left in week 9 for the season. Kromer had 3/5's of his line gone but managed to coach the reserves up to be decent. The Rams traded for Corbett, a bust in Cleveland. They put rookies David Edwards and Bobby Evans in the lineup and they both were playing fairly well at the end of the season. The point is, they got experienced. The next year Corbett and Edwards were starters, Evans was a flop at G and Noteboom moved back to being Whitworth's backup covering for him in 7 games and another 2 for Edwards at LG. In 2021 they discovered Shelton and Alaric Jackson could play, while Noteboom again covered for Whitworth twice and another time in a crucial playoff game in Tampa. Last year, with a dearth of injuries unequalled in NFL history, they discovered Brewer could play, though he's a free agent (I doubt he gets many offers except maybe a return to L.A.) and they had Anchrum ready to go as their #6 OL and he's back. Arcuri started a game and didn't embarrass himself. They also grabbed 5th round pick from Chicago, Zach Thomas. Right now they have Havenstein, Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Shelton, Anchrum, Thomas, Arcuri and Bruss going into the draft. They'll probably come out with more help there and most certainly sign a couple of UDFAs. So although, there's no reason to think it'll be a return to the 2018 OL, there's not too many reasons to believe they can't put together a decent OL. Will they improve as the year moves along? Who knows? I don't know how good the new OL coach is going to be so that's a bigger unknown than the guys we have on roster. We'll see.

But we have fans who are already conceding the 2023 season. "We won't be competetive, let alone make the post season." 'All that dead money!!' As I mentioned in another thread, the 2021 Rams (you remember the SB Champs) carried 49.435 mil in dead money, compared to the whopping 50.773 we're carrying this year. A difference of 1.338 mil. "All those OL questions!!", "All those defenders out the door!!" Okay that last one is a huge unknown. There's a long way to go. The rest of free agency. The draft. More free agency. OTA's. Mini camp. Training camp. Etc. Hell, I haven't even signed up for YouTubeTV yet!!!!

Again that's great analysis truly but we don't have an answer as to how good or if they are any good as a unit. We can go into a season with a bad or presumably bad defense develop players etc. But an online is different it's a huge gamble to take because if your thing your going to be a KC type or a shootout type you need to be very sure the o-line is better way better than decent. You could have all pros at every position in the offense but field a decent or below average o-line and you won't get to where you want to go.

 

[So Ram]

Might as well run a 1-1-9 Defense.

AD the lone down linemen.
Ernest Jones the line linebacker
And 9 defensive backs

Raheem might have a fighting chance with stopping a simple 12 yard pass play on 3rd and 11.

Another VREAT positive post. Way to go . Winner

 

[Ram Ts]

But we have fans who are already conceding the 2023 season. "We won't be competetive, let alone make the post season." 'All that dead money!!' As I mentioned in another thread, the 2021 Rams (you remember the SB Champs) carried 49.435 mil in dead money, compared to the whopping 50.773 we're carrying this year. A difference of 1.338 mil. "All those OL questions!!", "All those defenders out the door!!" Okay that last one is a huge unknown. There's a long way to go. The rest of free agency. The draft. More free agency. OTA's. Mini camp. Training camp. Etc. Hell, I haven't even signed up for YouTubeTV yet!!!!

You keep mentioning the dead cap space in 2021 and comparing to 2023 as a way to say we are fine and can win at the high level again like 2021. But that is ignoring three important parts:

1) we were borrowing from future to pay for the 2021 dead cap. We could do that again, but the FO has decided to not do that for 2023 and reset.

2) we had amazing health and guys like Kupp, Stafford, AD were in prime.

3) we had two elite guys (OBJ and Von) come for peanuts on 2021 mid season - we paid draft capital for Denver to take on more and the unique OBJ release situation. Those two are not repeatable acquisitions. Not to mention the incredible Weddle situation that saved the back secondary.

 

[So Ram]

Again that's great analysis truly but we don't have an answer as to how good or if they are any good as a unit. We can go into a season with a bad or presumably bad defense develop players etc. But an online is different it's a huge gamble to take because if your thing your going to be a KC type or a shootout type you need to be very sure the o-line is better way better than decent. You could have all pros at every position in the offense but field a decent or below average o-line and you won't get to where you want to go.

John Sullivan was CUT!! The Rams have been counting on Brian Allen way too long & NEVER liked the pick. Now come 2023 & he & Shelton both have 2 years left on their contract.
-Center - Rams need to develop a Center Kolone is basically a street FA who knew Tge Rams system they developed for 5 seasons.( Bigger Center/Swing G). If Coleman Shelton is the starting Guard The Rams are in serious trouble again. The Center position(swing guard back up is good) Alright.

—Guard - Alaric Jackson is just a big cool-cat. He is a guy that really helps inside with the Pass Rush & he can get out & Maul.
I like him at LG basically because he already stated he was going to be The Starting LG & Noteboom was fine at LT.

RG ? Bruss ?? Anchrum ??? I just think The Rams have F”d up for YEARS!! Austin Corbett was a BLESSING!! He we go again. Who is The Rams starting RG. I actually liked A’Jackson there because he helped inside both C/Shelton & Havenstien.

The Rams need a LT/RT to draft in 2nd or 3rd rd!! If not at some point The Rams need to replace Big Rob!! He really needs to go IMO. He has been a leader,but it’s time for CHANGE.

 

[So Ram]

You keep mentioning the dead cap space in 2021 and comparing to 2023 as a way to say we are fine and can win at the high level again like 2021. But that is ignoring three important parts:

1) we were borrowing from future to pay for the 2021 dead cap. We could do that again, but the FO has decided to not do that for 2023 and reset.

2) we had amazing health and guys like Kupp, Stafford, AD were in prime.

3) we had two elite guys (OBJ and Von) come for peanuts on 2021 mid season - we paid draft capital for Denver to take on more and the unique OBJ release situation. Those two are not repeatable acquisitions. Not to mention the incredible Weddle situation that saved the back secondary.

Solid post - make some good points.

Basically Les Snead & Mcvay have not HIT on (TOP)DRAFT PICKS!
The system works on developing players.

I drink the KOOL-AIDE!! I can see The Rams being very good.They need to stay healthy,draft & continue to develop the younger players.

What I see is a FEW nice CORE Young players.

Cam Akers
Tutu Atwel
Kendrick
Bobby Brown
Ernest Jones

I know all the doubters out there,but those are core players that should develop the most just because of experience vs . Age.

 

[Rams43]

If they nail just the first three picks this team will be a competitive team. The remodel won't be complete until next year but nail those picks and this will be a winning season.

2nd rd. Edge
3rd rd. CB, ILB

5th rd. QB2, PK, RB3
6th rd. P, OLB, DT
7th rd. LS, DB

People are in an uproar but we haven't seen their draft or final roster yet.

If McSnead drafts an ILB instead of a TE in the 3rd I will probably have a heart attack.

This is the PERFECT draft to grab a quality TE in the 3rd.

 

[ottoman89]

Another VREAT positive post. Way to go . Winner

I appreciate ALL your comments towards me when you're being a smartass. You're the best!!

 

[PARAM]

Again that's great analysis truly but we don't have an answer as to how good or if they are any good as a unit. We can go into a season with a bad or presumably bad defense develop players etc. But an online is different it's a huge gamble to take because if your thing your going to be a KC type or a shootout type you need to be very sure the o-line is better way better than decent. You could have all pros at every position in the offense but field a decent or below average o-line and you won't get to where you want to go.

Sure 'WE' don't have a clue as to how good a unit it might be. Nobody does. But 'THEY' see these guys everyday and should have a good handle on what to expect. A considerably better handle than we have. They saw something in Blythe nobody else (NFL teams) did. They 'found' Edwards in round 5. They saw something in Corbett Cleveland didn't. Well, Cleveland did.....they spent a 2nd round pick on him but in year 2 had already given up. They saw something in Alaric Jackson nobody else did. Now of course, there may have been another team or two who did but didn't pull the trigger on any of them. My point is, they've been doing this O line thing since 2017. Every year it has been different. And every year, except last season's historically injury plagued debacle, they've won. Were they "great lines"? No. Were they exceptional lines? That's a matter of opinion. Were they 'decent' lines? Without a doubt.

2017 Whit-Saffold-Sullivan-Brown-Havenstein
2018 Whit-Saffold-Sullivan-Blythe-Havenstein
2019 Whit-Noteboom-Allen-Blythe-Havenstein (Edwards, Corbett, Evans)
2020 Whit-Edwards-Blythe-Corbett-Havenstein (Noteboom)
2021 Whit-Edwards-Allen-Corbett-Havenstein (Noteboom, Shelton)
2022 Noteboom-Edwards-Allen-Shelton-Havenstein (Anchrum, Jackson, Nsekhe, Skura, Brewer, Aboushi, Evans, Arcuri, Kolone)

One of those years are not like the others but the fact is, they have fielded decent O lines from the get go.

You keep mentioning the dead cap space in 2021 and comparing to 2023 as a way to say we are fine and can win at the high level again like 2021. But that is ignoring three important parts:

1) we were borrowing from future to pay for the 2021 dead cap. We could do that again, but the FO has decided to not do that for 2023 and reset.

2) we had amazing health and guys like Kupp, Stafford, AD were in prime.

3) we had two elite guys (OBJ and Von) come for peanuts on 2021 mid season - we paid draft capital for Denver to take on more and the unique OBJ release situation. Those two are not repeatable acquisitions. Not to mention the incredible Weddle situation that saved the back secondary.

I mentioned it twice. Mainly because it's been mentioned close to 100 times by others with aghast. I merely pointed out we carried the same amount of dead money in 2021 as we will in 2023 and that was a SB year. Show me where I said, "We can win at a high level again in 2023"? Certainly, I'm not suggesting anything like the 2021 outcome in 2023 but there's no reason we can't be better than expected. Maybe considerably. And unlike the after affects of 2021, 2024 ($0.00 dead money) will not be like 2022 ($26.653 mil). So maybe the proper outlook for this year is (pardon the pun) we're playing with house money. We're not expected to do a damn thing until 2024. But if we accidentally have a good draft, find a UDFA or two, pick up a couple/three complimentary UFA's and play well, won't that be nice? It beats the hell out of the "Stillwell Angel" approach to fandom.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUB8SrlQAE


"We were borrowing from the future to pay the 2021 dead cap"? No we were mortgaging the future with the hope of going back to back in 2021 and 2022. So what does that mean for 2023 in a negative sense? Absolutely nothing. I've suggested this may well have been the plan going into 2022, even if we won it all again. We were going to be well over the cap in 2023 regardless of our 2022 record and results. Maybe even worse had we picked up somebody before the trade deadline.

"We had amazing health and guys like Kupp, Stafford, AD were in their prime"? So they're 2 years past their prime? Or does "prime" last a number of years? I believe Kupp, Donald and Stafford are still dangerous weapons that have to be accounted for by defenses going into 2023. You don't?

"OBJ & Von". Yes great fortuitous mid season pickups. Just like Fowler in 2018 and Ramsey in 2019. So you're saying if the Rams do better than most of Ramsnation thinks this year, there won't be guys like that available? We've done it every year we've needed to do it. Or we won't have the money to pick them up? We have $0 dead money in 2024 and tons of cap space ($38 mil). Bet me.

 

[Ram Ts]

Sure 'WE' don't have a clue as to how good a unit it might be. Nobody does. But 'THEY' see these guys everyday and should have a good handle on what to expect. A considerably better handle than we have. They saw something in Blythe nobody else (NFL teams) did. They 'found' Edwards in round 5. They saw something in Corbett Cleveland didn't. Well, Cleveland did.....they spent a 2nd round pick on him but in year 2 had already given up. They saw something in Alaric Jackson nobody else did. Now of course, there may have been another team or two who did but didn't pull the trigger on any of them. My point is, they've been doing this O line thing since 2017. Every year it has been different. And every year, except last season's historically injury plagued debacle, they've won. Were they "great lines"? No. Were they exceptional lines? That's a matter of opinion. Were they 'decent' lines? Without a doubt.

2017 Whit-Saffold-Sullivan-Brown-Havenstein
2018 Whit-Saffold-Sullivan-Blythe-Havenstein
2019 Whit-Noteboom-Allen-Blythe-Havenstein (Edwards, Corbett, Evans)
2020 Whit-Edwards-Blythe-Corbett-Havenstein (Noteboom)
2021 Whit-Edwards-Allen-Corbett-Havenstein (Noteboom, Shelton)
2022 Noteboom-Edwards-Allen-Shelton-Havenstein (Anchrum, Jackson, Nsekhe, Skura, Brewer, Aboushi, Evans, Arcuri, Kolone)

One of those years are not like the others but the fact is, they have fielded decent O lines from the get go.

I mentioned it twice. Mainly because it's been mentioned close to 100 times by others with aghast. I merely pointed out we carried the same amount of dead money in 2021 as we will in 2023 and that was a SB year. Show me where I said, "We can win at a high level again in 2023"? Certainly, I'm not suggesting anything like the 2021 outcome in 2023 but there's no reason we can't be better than expected. Maybe considerably. And unlike the after affects of 2021, 2024 ($0.00 dead money) will not be like 2022 ($26.653 mil). So maybe the proper outlook for this year is (pardon the pun) we're playing with house money. We're not expected to do a damn thing until 2024. But if we accidentally have a good draft, find a UDFA or two, pick up a couple/three complimentary UFA's and play well, won't that be nice? It beats the hell out of the "Stillwell Angel" approach to fandom.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUB8SrlQAE


"We were borrowing from the future to pay the 2021 dead cap"? No we were mortgaging the future with the hope of going back to back in 2021 and 2022. So what does that mean for 2023 in a negative sense? Absolutely nothing. I've suggested this may well have been the plan going into 2022, even if we won it all again. We were going to be well over the cap in 2023 regardless of our 2022 record and results. Maybe even worse had we picked up somebody before the trade deadline.

"We had amazing health and guys like Kupp, Stafford, AD were in their prime"? So they're 2 years past their prime? Or does "prime" last a number of years? I believe Kupp, Donald and Stafford are still dangerous weapons that have to be accounted for by defenses going into 2023. You don't?

"OBJ & Von". Yes great fortuitous mid season pickups. Just like Fowler in 2018 and Ramsey in 2019. So you're saying if the Rams do better than most of Ramsnation thinks this year, there won't be guys like that available? We've done it every year we've needed to do it. Or we won't have the money to pick them up? We have $0 dead money in 2024 and tons of cap space ($38 mil). Bet me.

I’m glad you finally agree about 2023 being not like prior years and questionable about the prospects of winning.

For AD/Kupp/Stafford - idk if they are still in their prime. It’s 2 years later from 2021. I hope they are still. But time wins all wars. I feel semi confident about Kupp & AD. Stafford is a bit of an unknown and I have some have worries he is his usual self and can stay that way for 17+ games.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I appreciate ALL your comments towards me when you're being a smartass. You're the best!!

I hear you have a good vocabulary, excellent table manners and a lovely collection of miniature collectibles.

I want to be 'The Best' too!

 

[payote75]

Sure 'WE' don't have a clue as to how good a unit it might be. Nobody does. But 'THEY' see these guys everyday and should have a good handle on what to expect. A considerably better handle than we have. They saw something in Blythe nobody else (NFL teams) did. They 'found' Edwards in round 5. They saw something in Corbett Cleveland didn't. Well, Cleveland did.....they spent a 2nd round pick on him but in year 2 had already given up. They saw something in Alaric Jackson nobody else did. Now of course, there may have been another team or two who did but didn't pull the trigger on any of them. My point is, they've been doing this O line thing since 2017. Every year it has been different. And every year, except last season's historically injury plagued debacle, they've won. Were they "great lines"? No. Were they exceptional lines? That's a matter of opinion. Were they 'decent' lines? Without a doubt.

2017 Whit-Saffold-Sullivan-Brown-Havenstein
2018 Whit-Saffold-Sullivan-Blythe-Havenstein
2019 Whit-Noteboom-Allen-Blythe-Havenstein (Edwards, Corbett, Evans)
2020 Whit-Edwards-Blythe-Corbett-Havenstein (Noteboom)
2021 Whit-Edwards-Allen-Corbett-Havenstein (Noteboom, Shelton)
2022 Noteboom-Edwards-Allen-Shelton-Havenstein (Anchrum, Jackson, Nsekhe, Skura, Brewer, Aboushi, Evans, Arcuri, Kolone)

One of those years are not like the others but the fact is, they have fielded decent O lines from the get go.

I mentioned it twice. Mainly because it's been mentioned close to 100 times by others with aghast. I merely pointed out we carried the same amount of dead money in 2021 as we will in 2023 and that was a SB year. Show me where I said, "We can win at a high level again in 2023"? Certainly, I'm not suggesting anything like the 2021 outcome in 2023 but there's no reason we can't be better than expected. Maybe considerably. And unlike the after affects of 2021, 2024 ($0.00 dead money) will not be like 2022 ($26.653 mil). So maybe the proper outlook for this year is (pardon the pun) we're playing with house money. We're not expected to do a damn thing until 2024. But if we accidentally have a good draft, find a UDFA or two, pick up a couple/three complimentary UFA's and play well, won't that be nice? It beats the hell out of the "Stillwell Angel" approach to fandom.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUB8SrlQAE


"We were borrowing from the future to pay the 2021 dead cap"? No we were mortgaging the future with the hope of going back to back in 2021 and 2022. So what does that mean for 2023 in a negative sense? Absolutely nothing. I've suggested this may well have been the plan going into 2022, even if we won it all again. We were going to be well over the cap in 2023 regardless of our 2022 record and results. Maybe even worse had we picked up somebody before the trade deadline.

"We had amazing health and guys like Kupp, Stafford, AD were in their prime"? So they're 2 years past their prime? Or does "prime" last a number of years? I believe Kupp, Donald and Stafford are still dangerous weapons that have to be accounted for by defenses going into 2023. You don't?

"OBJ & Von". Yes great fortuitous mid season pickups. Just like Fowler in 2018 and Ramsey in 2019. So you're saying if the Rams do better than most of Ramsnation thinks this year, there won't be guys like that available? We've done it every year we've needed to do it. Or we won't have the money to pick them up? We have $0 dead money in 2024 and tons of cap space ($38 mil). Bet me.

I understand how it works and "we" are just fans and ability and what " they" see is great. Having said that though the ability "they" see must be shown through the availability that "we" haven't seen nor "they" in game action as a unit yet. It's a big risk to take if your putting all your eggs in the offense basket. So say what you want get stats and or examples/comparisons from 4 years ago but again I'd love for them to be all pro but need to prove it on the field.

Once again you can have an all-pro offense with a mediocre or average o-line and the offense won't be special or you will have a beat up qb;as well. If you plan to grow and add to the defense and win with offense you best make sure you know your o-line is better than average. We can go back and forth but until the roster is actually filled out to get a better feel it doesn't really matter even a step further til we see them play too.