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If we're allowed to make wild claims mine is that Stedman Bailey will have similar numbers in his second year as Antonio Brown's second year, only with more TDs.
No. You're not really the first. I am.Both players have a similar size, are aggressive, hard hitters. T.J. was playing well last year, was one of the sure tacklers we had on defense. With our pass rush, and Williams as coordinator, I see him having an important role in cleaning up short routes over the middle. I think his play next year will surprise us.
Pick a guy who's not really on the radar who you think will vie for Pro Bowl honors this season.
My surprise pick.... TJ McDonald.
I think he's very smart, working really hard, focused, and will be a star in GW's defense. And I think he's gonna make the Pro Bowl.
There isn't anything I read here that I like. Carve out a niche as a downhill box defender? Does that in any way sound like a FS? Even the good stuff isn't very good. And the bad stuff screams Craig Dahl. I'm not going to beat a dead horse here but NO THANK YOU!Deone Bucannon Grade: 5.52
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Good length and overall size. Reads run and drops downhill quickly. Has an old-school mentality -- likes contact and is a physical tackler (seeks to punish the ball carrier). Shows pop on contact. Covers kicks and has an ideal mentality for special teams. Productive four-year starter.
WEAKNESSES
Struggles to recover from missteps and will not track anyone down from behind. Some tightness in his hips. Takes some inaccurate angles. Man-coverage limitations (struggles to mirror slot receivers). Can be overaggressive and miss tackles. Does not always arrive under control in space. Lacks discipline on the field and makes too many mental mistakes. Got shook in the hole for a 75-yard TD vs. Colorado State and gives up too many big plays with bad angles.
DRAFT PROJECTION
Rounds 2-3
BOTTOM LINE
Good-sized, athletic, physical safety who stands out as a straight-line striker on tape and sets the tone. Has coverage limitations, but brings aggressiveness and intensity to carve a niche as a downhill box defender and core special-teams player. Must learn to become more assignment sound to maximize his potential. Has some similarities to Tampa Bay FS Dashon Goldson.
Has an even lower grade than Bucannon and despite the "Can contribute immediately at any safety position" part his skills scream SS without the size and durability needed for that position. At every site that delineates between SS and FS he's listed as a SS. Read through this and count the red flags. One PB and 0 INTs? Screams FS to me.OVERVIEW
Has a child. Prepped in Alabama. As a true freshman in 2010, he logged 21 tackles, one pass breakup and zero interceptions with one forced fumble and a school-record three blocked punts. Returned a blocked punt 15 yards for a touchdown. Played in all 14 games, seeing extensive action as a backup free safety and on special teams. Registered 100-4-1 with 2.5 tackles for loss, one sack, one forced fumble and one blocked punt (against Army) in 14 games (12 starts at cornerback) in '11. Led the Huskies in tackles in '12 after posting 104-11-3 with one tackle for loss and one forced fumble in 13 starts at free safety. Missed the UMass game with sprained A/C joint in his right shoulder. In '13, logged 95-10-7 with 2.5 tackles for loss, one sack and one forced fumble in 14 starts. Had a 62-yard touchdown return for a score against Purdue. Did not work out at the combine because of a foot injury (medical exclusion).
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Intense, active and energetic. Zooms around the field and stands out on tape. Aggressive run supporter -- triggers quickly, flies downhill and chops down ball carriers. Breaks on throws and shows short-area burst to close. Has quick hands to snatch interceptions. Confident and energetic. Experienced and productive. Has a 38-inch vertical jump.
WEAKNESSES
Size is just adequate -- lacks ideal bulk and is built more like a cornerback than a safety. Bench-pressed 225 pounds just nine times at the combine, second fewest among DBs. Gets snagged on blocks and struggles to disengage. Can be a tick late diagnosing pass, gaining depth and digesting route combos. Lacks elite top-end speed. Inconsistent downfield ball reactions with his back to the throw. Shows lower-body stiffness in space. Could rub some people the wrong way. Has some maturing to do and needs to learn what it means to prepare like a pro.
DRAFT PROJECTION
Rounds 2-3
BOTTOM LINE
Wiry, active, aggressive strong safety at his best playing downhill and reacting to plays in front him, yet possesses the cover skill to range over the top or lock down defenders in the slot. Ability to stay healthy in the future given lack of size and durability is the biggest concern. A very talented football player who could slide a round or two based on size, medical evaluations and attitude. Can contribute immediately at any safety position and positively affect the game if healthy and focused.
Rounds 5-6? Durability is a concern? Grade of 5.19? Please.Dione Bailey Grade: 5.19
OVERVIEW
Two-time second-team All-Pac-12 selection (2011 and 2013). 2013: Switched to safety after playing linebacker the previous two seasons. Made nine starts in 14 games played. 2012: Honorable mention All-Pac-12 selection after starting in all 13 games and leading the team with four interceptions. 2011: Played and started in 11 games. Moved from safety to linebacker prior ro spring practice. Missed one game due to a concussion. 2010: Redshirted.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Good hands to intercept. Was an impact defender as a redshirt freshman despite playing out of place as an undersized linebacker.
WEAKNESSES
Durability is a concern. Has pedestrian speed -- struggles to match with slot receivers. Lacks experience in deep coverage. Still developing positional instincts and feel for route combinations. Takes some inaccurate angles. Goes low and misses tackles. Has 'tweener traits.
DRAFT PROJECTION
Rounds 5-6
BOTTOM LINE
Classic linebacker-safety 'tweener whose best shot to carve a niche in the pros could come as a nickel linebacker, where he could utilize his ball skills and be used as a blitzer. Will have to make his mark on special teams.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/dion-bailey?id=2543668
Rounds 5-6? Durability is a concern? Grade of 5.19? Please.
I've been talking about that lack of depth at Safety and these 3 players are right below Ha-Ha and Pryor. As far as I'm concerned, if we don't get one of those two players we shouldn't even bother to draft a Safety and just hope McLeod has a huge improvement this year.
Rams and Gators thinking meainingless catch phrase:
Isn't "Durability is a concern" just shorthand for "has been injured at some point in the last 3 years"?
I think "durability is a concern" requires multiple injuries and/or a physical frame that's inconsistent with the position he plays.
Along with "injury prone."
Rams and Gators wanting the rest of the story:
Well Bailey played in every game last season, every game in 2012, and all but 2 in 2011, at 6' he's taller than all but one Pro Bowl FS, he is a bit light 201 lbs compared to 203, 205, 205, 208 and 213 for the Pro Bowlers, but with an NFL S&C program I'm sure can add those vital 2-12 lbs.
Not sure how he fits into either of those criteria.
According to CBS:
STRENGTHS: Durable. Missed one game due to injury in three seasons as a starter.
Those are just blurps of the whole story. For more of the story read below.
Concussion plus these:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...afety-dion-bailey-day-to-day-after-hip-injury
USC Trojans safety Dion Bailey day to day after hip injury
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...dion-bailey-injury-update-usc-spring-practice
USC's Dion Bailey to miss spring practice after shoulder surgery
Do you think that the horrid grade he got and his crappy performance might have been the result of playing injured? Injuries that (shoulder) required offseason surgery.Rams and Gators looking only on the surface:
That's his entire injury history? A surgery a year ago which caused him to miss zero game time, and being day to day two weeks prior to the start of the season, which caused him to miss zero game time.
Chancelor is not all that great outside the box either. Big hitter good run support plays good in the role they have him in. TJ will be every bit that player in William's defense.
Do you think that the horrid grade he got and his crappy performance might have been the result of playing injured? Injuries that (shoulder) required offseason surgery.
How many times have you been injured in the last couple of years? 3 like this guy? How many surgeries to repair injuries have you had in the last couple of years? So what's your definition of durability concerns? Sounds like "durability is a concern" to me. Nobody said he was injury prone.
If his crappy play wasn't at least partially the result of injuries then he's even worse than I thought.
A couple of things here.Rams and Gators wanting clarification:
I question the "horrid grade" based upon two things, one what I saw when watching him, two the fact that one site lists him as having "durability concerns" as a weakness, whereas another lists him as "durable" as a strength, it makes me question whether they even watched him play or just churn out a load of crap.
What about what you saw out of him made you give him the designation "crappy"?
Both players have a similar size, are aggressive, hard hitters. T.J. was playing well last year, was one of the sure tacklers we had on defense. With our pass rush, and Williams as coordinator, I see him having an important role in cleaning up short routes over the middle. I think his play next year will surprise us.
A couple of things here.
I'll bow to your first hand knowledge about his play because I saw none of his games. I've only seen parts of games and I'm mainly going on what I've read about him.
I was only able to do research on two positions this year before my health concerns put a stop to it. Those two positions were OT and FS. I started with those because they were the two areas I was most concerned about. When I haven't actually been able to see a player in action in a considerable amount of games, I go by what I've read about him. My final analysis is based on a compilation of everything I've read and not just one or two sites. All those words I used like "crappy" were based on my research. Sites don't give low grades and say bad things about players who aren't, well, crappy. I could have used different words but crappy pretty much somes up my opinion of him. Along with horrid.
I take it that you're a fan of his play. What is it about his play that you like? When I ask that, I'm not interested in qualities you would associate with a SS because we already have TJ and what we need are qualities that are associated with a FS. When you're trying to think back on what you've seen of him can you site a game so that I can look at what you're seeing? Draft Breakdown has parts of four games here:
http://draftbreakdown.com/players/dion-bailey/
Ward is a football player who can cover, tackle and think. Somebody is gonna to get a good Safety - hope its us