I feel dirty

[GoodBadUgly]

I have to admit, for the first time in my TOO MANY decades of watching every Rams game, I actually was slightly thankful we got to see another Raheem Meltdown and lose that game.

We aren't the best at using our draft picks, but even a broken clock is correct twice a day! So the higher up we pick for all those rounds, the better.

I don't feel great about it, and am using this forum to assuage my guilt.

Thanks.

 

[Kupped]

The amount of vitriol aimed at a DC who played a key role in getting the Rams a Super Bowl is, at times, astounding to me.

I guess people gotta aim their angst somewhere.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

The amount of vitriol aimed at a DC who played a key role in getting the Rams a Super Bowl is, at times, astounding to me.

I guess people gotta aim their angst somewhere.

Or I guess some people have a different opinion than you. Like buttholes, everyone's got one.

My opinion has ALWAYS been to be more aggressive on D, and only go shell in key spots for change of pace. I am a firm believer that the occasional beat is outweighed by short drives and turnovers from aggressive play. ESPECIALLY when your lack of tackling gives up the big plays anyway, and tires the D in the process.

Again, my opinion.

So yes, I am NOT a fan of Raheem, and if truth be told I feel the only reason he was part of that SB run was the light went on for him. Wish it stayed on.

 

[Allen2McVay]

So the higher up we pick for all those rounds, the better.

Not trying to burst-a-bubble but it's really just two picks.

In addition to their first, the Rams are also without their 2023 fourth and fifth round draft choices.

 

[Kupped]

Or I guess some people have a different opinion than you. Like buttholes, everyone's got one.

My opinion has ALWAYS been to be more aggressive on D, and only go shell in key spots for change of pace. I am a firm believer that the occasional beat is outweighed by short drives and turnovers from aggressive play. ESPECIALLY when your lack of tackling gives up the big plays anyway, and tires the D in the process.

Again, my opinion.

So yes, I am NOT a fan of Raheem, and if truth be told I feel the only reason he was part of that SB run was the light went on for him. Wish it stayed on.

My observation is that Morris actually does exactly that when he has the personnel.

My observation is the defense did all the things you're saying on the way to the Super Bowl.

My. observation is that you lack all perspective when it comes to analyzing Morris.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

My observation is that Morris actually does exactly that when he has the personnel.

My observation is the defense did all the things you're saying on the way to the Super Bowl.

My. observation is that you lack all perspective when it comes to analyzing Morris.

Pot, meet Kettle.

Anybody who has watched this team give away the games they have with this tentative defensive strategy and feels this way is not qualified to question other fans' perspectives.

But I'm completely fine with you having your opinion and will hoist my beer with you while watching our team.

 

[Kupped]

Pot, meet Kettle.

Anybody who has watched this team give away the games they have with this tentative defensive strategy and feels this way is not qualified to question other fans' perspectives.

But I'm completely fine with you having your opinion and will hoist my beer with you while watching our team.

Nope.
Not that easy.

You tell me *why* would he run an attacking, flexible scheme last year… and not run it this year?

You say this defense is failing.. why would someone choose the worse option, when they have chosen different in the past?

Give me a logical explanation.

Mine is that he doesn’t have the personnel to successfully run what you suggest and they believe this is the best chance for keeping the score close.

 

[Tano]

Not trying to burst-a-bubble but it's really just two picks.

In addition to their first, the Rams are also without their 2023 fourth and fifth round draft choices.

Well I believe they do have a 4th round comp pick so that helps

And I hope we get a 3rd round comp pick when um ....

 

[gogoat1]

The amount of vitriol aimed at a DC who played a key role in getting the Rams a Super Bowl is, at times, astounding to me.

I guess people gotta aim their angst somewhere.

The Rams should have overpaid the guy they let go and now is coaching the Chargers. THAT was a great defense.
Morris is terrible and anyone can coach AD.
Tired of watching Rams DBs 10 yards off the receiver they are up against.
We have 3 wins and I do not think the Rams would have 2 wins if they got up in those receivers faces more.
Morris coaches like he is scarred.
He needs to stop letting JR play all over and let him pin the top WR to the sideline and go with that. He is not 23 anymore.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

...
You say this defense is failing.. why would someone choose the worse option, when they have chosen different in the past?

Give me a logical explanation.

Mine is that he doesn’t have the personnel to successfully run what you suggest and they believe this is the best chance for keeping the score close.

Technically, it is "logical", but I bet my logic is different than yours.

Here is why: He perceives the current talent pool is different than last years', and a soft shell is more suited to the current defensive talent.

I completely disagree and feel that any downside of playing aggressively defensively with the CURRENT personnel will end up gaining more than it loses.

The "upside" with the shell isn't even being realized as teams are still able to score quickly as witnessed by a few heartbreaking losses this year. Meanwhile, the "downside" is seen every game with tiring our defense, leaving our offense off the field so they can't get into rhythm, lack of turnovers, lack of sacks with allowing for quick passes, etc.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Well I believe they do have a 4th round comp pick so that helps

And I hope we get a 3rd round comp pick when um ....

I was referring to the idea that every Rams’ loss helps their draft position. That doesn’t apply to comp picks.

 

[Tano]

I was referring to the idea that every Rams’ loss helps their draft position. That doesn’t apply to comp picks.

oh okay - my bad

 

[Kupped]

The Rams should have overpaid the guy they let go and now is coaching the Chargers. THAT was a great defense.
Morris is terrible and anyone can coach AD.
Tired of watching Rams DBs 10 yards off the receiver they are up against.
We have 3 wins and I do not think the Rams would have 2 wins if they got up in those receivers faces more.
Morris coaches like he is scarred.
He needs to stop letting JR play all over and let him pin the top WR to the sideline and go with that. He is not 23 anymore.

Morris’ defense has outperformed Staley the last 2 years.

Next.

 

[Kupped]

Technically, it is "logical", but I bet my logic is different than yours.

Here is why: He perceives the current talent pool is different than last years', and a soft shell is more suited to the current defensive talent.

I completely disagree and feel that any downside of playing aggressively defensively with the CURRENT personnel will end up gaining more than it loses.

The "upside" with the shell isn't even being realized as teams are still able to score quickly as witnessed by a few heartbreaking losses this year. Meanwhile, the "downside" is seen every game with tiring our defense, leaving our offense off the field so they can't get into rhythm, lack of turnovers, lack of sacks with allowing for quick passes, etc.

Got it.

So, you’re saying you know the Rams personnel better than Morris and McVay.

And, no.. the idea is to compress the field in the red zone and only give up FGs.

The idea is to be in position to win a game. They blew that this week when the offense did its job.

Fundamentally.. the argument is you believe you know the Rams personnel better than they do.

 

[PhillyRam]

Technically, it is "logical", but I bet my logic is different than yours.

Here is why: He perceives the current talent pool is different than last years', and a soft shell is more suited to the current defensive talent.

I completely disagree and feel that any downside of playing aggressively defensively with the CURRENT personnel will end up gaining more than it loses.

The "upside" with the shell isn't even being realized as teams are still able to score quickly as witnessed by a few heartbreaking losses this year. Meanwhile, the "downside" is seen every game with tiring our defense, leaving our offense off the field so they can't get into rhythm, lack of turnovers, lack of sacks with allowing for quick passes, etc.

Yeah, I remember when Baltimore had that awful offense in 2000 and their defense went to a soft shell to "help" the offense and they went on to win a SB being a bend don't break defense.

 

[Kupped]

Yeah, I remember when Baltimore had that awful offense in 2000 and their defense went to a soft shell to "help" the offense and they went on to win a SB being a bend don't break defense.

….. squints……

You’re comparing the current Rams D personnel…. To the 2000 Ravens??

 

[PhillyRam]

….. squints……

You’re comparing the current Rams D personnel…. To the 2000 Ravens??

No, but I am comparing the approach of being aggressive on defense so you may might be able to force more 3 & outs and God forbid a short field for your offense with a turnover. Versus, letting the opposing team comfortably move down the field resulting in scores or in pinning your own offense down near their own goal line for much of the game.

 

[Kupped]

No, but I am comparing the approach of being aggressive on defense so you may might be able to force more 3 & outs and God forbid a short field for your offense with a turnover. Versus, letting the opposing team comfortably move down the field resulting in scores or in pinning your own offense down near their own goal line for much of the game.

Here’s the thing…

I’m not arguing against that as a concept.

But I also believe you need to have the right personnel.

You wanna run a press scheme with Rapp, Scott, Long and Kendrick?

And a pass rush with Gaines, Donald, Floyd and Hoecht?

I don’t see that working, my friend.


Good luck.

 

[Tano]

Morris did well when he had Donald and Von Miller terrorizing the opposing QB.

Without Miller, he is afraid to challenge the opposing team's offense.

It's as simple as that.

Why is he afraid? I do not know. I think we still have the players to be aggressive like a lot of other teams are aggressive.

I just can't fathom our team having the worst secondary out there that they have to give the opposing QB the quickest release by .3 seconds than the second quickest release in the league.

 

[Allen2McVay]

oh okay - my bad

It's OK. I could never be angry with Johnny Tano.