Warner4Prez
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Most of Sam's drops came from downfield passes, though.Imo showing some drops (past or present) it's not the fair thing.Every drop has got its story (momentum, frustation, score, wheater condition ...), but I can remember that Sam loves particularly throwing, too often, safes tracks in the middle of the field (especially with wr sholder to the post).It means hard punishment for receivers and when you "feel" the hit coming, changes something in your mind.You try to anticipate the move to avoid the shot and that's why the drop.It doesn't mean that is Bradford's fault.
I think you may be underestimating but that's just my opinion.
The Cook drop was terrible I agree. That gets dropped maybe 1 in 500 plays and that was the wrong game to do it in!
I'm only putting this out there because I've mentioned it before and IMO it is worth discussing as long as people keep it civil.
Bradford may be one of the reasons for the drops. He has a strong arm and does throw fastballs. Davis has excellent touch, at least so far.
What we may be seeing is the result of that. These guys have been catching footballs for many years, I doubt if they just learned how to do it correctly.
Everything else is the same and the QB changes yet that is not considered as the cause? I am not saying it is that simple but ignoring that fact is just bad science.Or maybe just maybe austin Davis has a more catchable ball and puts it in better places.
None of that explains this crap:
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C4USiF-zG9A
Or this:
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LfzEvzKResM
Or even this:
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4LGX3plK-n4
The 1st video (Kendricks) is a very tough ball to catch in traffic. It is not back shoulder, as the commentator states, it is actually behind him and outside of his frame. That is a very difficult catch, and a low percentage opportunity.
The 3rd video (Gibson) is a little harder to tell, as it appears that the ball is thrown a little too much to the outside, making it 'behind' the receiver. But, watching the slow motion instant replay, I am convinced that Gibson made a poor adjustment to the ball, which made it appear to be behind him. The longer the ball is in the air, the more time the receiver has to adjust to the throw, and Gibson just did a poor job on that play. This is another well thrown ball.
That ball was put where it should be. Kendricks was between two defenders with a safety bearing down on him. The QB's job is to protect his receiver. Bradford hasn't always done a good job of that but there, he did. You throw the ball to the back shoulder of Kendricks so he can slow his momentum, catch the ball, and get down without getting blown up. You force Kendricks to catch the ball while still running, he's going to get smacked by that safety.
So there are essentially two options on that play for Bradford:
1. You throw it low and let Kendricks try to make a sliding catch; or
2. You throw it slightly behind him, let him reach back for it, and go to the ground.
Obviously, there's a third option which is throw it on him or in front of him but that gets him blown up by the safety. In that circumstance, as a WR, I'd prefer the ball slightly behind me. It's more difficult to go low for it than reach back for it.
Nah, you're right when you say it was a poor adjustment by Gibson. Ball was thrown decently well. Gibson had no reason to leave his feet. All he had to do was turn back for it and it would have hit him in the numbers. Because he left his feet, he didn't adjust fully and then flat-out dropped what was still a very catchable ball.
Those are also the only three years, 1999, 2000, 2001, they had more yards per game than the current 382 YPG at just 38 yards per game less!
None of that explains this crap:
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C4USiF-zG9A
Or this:
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LfzEvzKResM
Or even this:
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4LGX3plK-n4[/QUOTE]
Another downside to the touch pass is on stop routes -- you will get your receiver smoked by the likes of Dashon Goldson if you can't zing it in there. On the plus side, passes on short routes are less likely to be batted down at the line of scrimmage. That's something Davis definitely has over Bradford.Austin doesn't have the heat on the ball like Sam. That's good and bad, easier for the WR and DBs to catch. Warner threw fastballs, but put the ball in great locations to catch it.
We had the same receivers last year (sans Britt). We just have a different QB. It seems pretty obvious that the QB has some impact on this equation.This is clearly the best WR core we've had here in a LONG time. I'm not buying the Bradford throws the ball too hard or without enough touch argument...concerning all the drops we've seen here in the last few years. Professional NFL receivers shouldn't have to be spoon fed perfect passes in this league. Our WR's have been bottom rung JAGS for awhile.
I think your on to something here. And considering, the fact, the Eagles D is ranked 26th against the run, Stacy and company have a good shot at having a BIG day!If Stacy can get going the WRs become more lethal!!! That's what I'm hoping to see Sunday...Stacy taking HUGE chunks of yardage.