Dotson and a contract

[WestCoastRam]

Hunt's around the 6'5", 325/330 lbs. range. I'd say he's plenty physical.

Could be an interesting pickup than, I guess.

 

[XXXIVwin]

I'm already on record the Rams will offer Dotson $5-$7M/yr on a 4 year deal with the 4th likely to be a void year...

That said, the market value for Dotson could be as high as $10/year.

I totally disagree with this assessment of Dotson's value as an UFA.

I'll go "on record" that some team will offer Dotson a 4 year deal worth at least $76M, an average of at least $19M per year.

The popularity of the NFL is sky-high, and the recent TV contracts prove it. Current salary cap of approx $225M could go to $255M in 2024, and north of $280M in 2025.

Dotson was evaluated by PFF as the second-highest graded G in the NFL this year. Two G's in the NFL (Chris Lindstrom and Quentin Nelson) currently make just over $20M per year.

Some team is gonna back up the Brinks truck for Dotson. I'm not saying I personally believe Dotson is worth it-- I just think he is going to exploit his leverage as a free agent.

I'd love it if the Rams could get him for a "team-friendly" deal, but given the size of the salary cap and Dotson's excellent year, I think he's gonna get PAID.

I'm still bullish on the Rams in 2024, but they may not be able to afford to keep Dotson.

 

[So Ram]

I totally disagree with this assessment of Dotson's value as an UFA.

I'll go "on record" that some team will offer Dotson a 4 year deal worth at least $76M, an average of at least $19M per year.

The popularity of the NFL is sky-high, and the recent TV contracts prove it. Current salary cap of approx $225M could go to $255M in 2024, and north of $280M in 2025.

Dotson was evaluated by PFF as the second-highest graded G in the NFL this year. Two G's in the NFL (Chris Lindstrom and Quentin Nelson) currently make just over $20M per year.

Some team is gonna back up the Brinks truck for Dotson. I'm not saying I personally believe Dotson is worth it-- I just think he is going to exploit his leverage as a free agent.

I'd love it if the Rams could get him for a "team-friendly" deal, but given the size of the salary cap and Dotson's excellent year, I think he's gonna get PAID.

I'm still bullish on the Rams in 2024, but they may not be able to afford to keep Dotson.

Oldbutnotdead dead is RARELY EVER RIGHT!!! $4 million LMFAO !
That would be GREAT!!

My question is what do The Rams get as a COMP PICK.
It was said they traded a 5th & 4th rd pick to acquire him.

A 3rd rd pick ?

Couldn’t The Rams tender him ? Tender(lol). A week to Match his offer.

Alaric Jackson contract?

 

[WestCoastRam]

I totally disagree with this assessment of Dotson's value as an UFA.

I'll go "on record" that some team will offer Dotson a 4 year deal worth at least $76M, an average of at least $19M per year.

The popularity of the NFL is sky-high, and the recent TV contracts prove it. Current salary cap of approx $225M could go to $255M in 2024, and north of $280M in 2025.

Dotson was evaluated by PFF as the second-highest graded G in the NFL this year. Two G's in the NFL (Chris Lindstrom and Quentin Nelson) currently make just over $20M per year.

Some team is gonna back up the Brinks truck for Dotson. I'm not saying I personally believe Dotson is worth it-- I just think he is going to exploit his leverage as a free agent.

I'd love it if the Rams could get him for a "team-friendly" deal, but given the size of the salary cap and Dotson's excellent year, I think he's gonna get PAID.

I'm still bullish on the Rams in 2024, but they may not be able to afford to keep Dotson.

This.

 

[Londoner]

Hunt's around the 6'5", 325/330 lbs. range. I'd say he's plenty physical.

A player’s mentality is just as important as their size. We can all name big guys who were too soft…

 

[Psycho_X]

Some of you are stuck in 2019 or earlier when you talk about what it costs to sign free agents these days.

 

[Ramstien]

Dodson had a good season and I would like to see the Rams retain his services but not at the price of one of the top six players at his position. I my opinion he is in the 2nd tier.

 

[WoodsideRam]

I totally disagree with this assessment of Dotson's value as an UFA.

I'll go "on record" that some team will offer Dotson a 4 year deal worth at least $76M, an average of at least $19M per year.

The popularity of the NFL is sky-high, and the recent TV contracts prove it. Current salary cap of approx $225M could go to $255M in 2024, and north of $280M in 2025.

Dotson was evaluated by PFF as the second-highest graded G in the NFL this year. Two G's in the NFL (Chris Lindstrom and Quentin Nelson) currently make just over $20M per year.

Some team is gonna back up the Brinks truck for Dotson. I'm not saying I personally believe Dotson is worth it-- I just think he is going to exploit his leverage as a free agent.

I'd love it if the Rams could get him for a "team-friendly" deal, but given the size of the salary cap and Dotson's excellent year, I think he's gonna get PAID.

I'm still bullish on the Rams in 2024, but they may not be able to afford to keep Dotson.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Tennessee be the team to back up the Brinks Truck. They've got a lot of money to spend and their offensive line is not very good.

 

[dieterbrock]

My question is what do The Rams get as a COMP PICK.

Tricky question because we dont know how active they will be in signing UFA themselves. On face value you'd think he'd bring back a 3rd rounder under the assumption he signs such a monster deal the Rams cant compete

Couldn’t The Rams tender him ? Tender(lol). A week to Match his offer.

No. He's an unrestricted free agent. They could put a transition tag on him, would cost less than franchise tag (still 19+ mill) and then have the option to match a contract offer. If they dont match they get no compensation

 

[WestCoastRam]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Tennessee be the team to back up the Brinks Truck. They've got a lot of money to spend and their offensive line is not very good.

Yes and they will end up getting one of the top LT's in the draft. Perfect opportunity to flip their oline in one season.

 

[Rambitious1]

View: https://x.com/jourdanrodrigue/status/1748411168375635980?s=46&t=aE7v6EDf8EF-JyMzdX8jJg

“We're not gonna Minnesota Viking this thing and just pass.”

Freaking hilarious

 

[OldSchool]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Tennessee be the team to back up the Brinks Truck. They've got a lot of money to spend and their offensive line is not very good.

They have a metric shit ton of cap space tbh.

 

[oldnotdead]

He's only played at this level once (this past season) he's not worth top end money at this point. Perhaps he might be but Corbett signed for a contract yearly average of $8.7M and after that first year has been injury plagued the last two. The Rams liked Corbett and he was younger as well but didn't come anywhere near what the Panthers offered. Even Whitworth wasn't paid what the market would have offered him.

RG is the lowest paid position on the OL. Up until the 2024 season Havenstein hasn't been paid top-end money though people on this board also overestimated his worth. The Rams aren't likely going to pony up top dollar despite the one good year Kevin had. The sample size is one year not multiple years of playing at that level.

Kroenke isn't going to sign off on a contract that some on here are advocating. He's already said that cap busting contracts aren't in the budget now. Paying a RG that type of money means everyone else gets boosted at that level when it's their time, it's a precedent they aren't going to set.

If they offer him a contract with a yearly average of $6-7M that will put him in the upper 3rd of the RG contracts which is reasonable for a guy who proved it for ONE year. If he wants to bet on himself he can sign a short 2-3 year deal at the offered level. Carolina is having buyer's regrets right now regarding Corbett IMO. That's how fast things can change.

So yeah laugh at me but before you do look at the Ram's history when it comes to OL. Why do you think Sullivan and Saffold left after the 2018 season? Saffold was a LG which makes more but even then the Rams were paying him over $6M/yr average. He left for TN who offered double and they terminated his contract before it expired. In other words if you want a player for the long term you can't afford to pay top dollar each year. Look at Dotson's age. Kevin will be 28 this year, there is no way I see the Rams paying top dollar for a 28 year old RG who has one very good year in his career. IMO any extension they offer him won't be longer than 3 years max. He would be smarter to take less per year but all guaranteed over a shorter contract something like 3 years at $5M/yr. Don't laugh that would make him the 12th highest paid RG.

 

[XXXIVwin]

(Dotson) would be smarter to take less per year but all guaranteed over a shorter contract something like 3 years at $5M/yr.

Many of us aren't talking about what the Rams would offer him, but what some OTHER TEAM (with plenty of cap space) might offer him.

IMO, no way Dotson's agent would even consider a 3 year 5M/year contract, even if it were all guaranteed.

We'll revisit this thread in late March, and see how much Dotson signs for once we've reached the "silly season" of free agency.

Highest RG contracts in link:

Right Guard Contracts and Salaries | Over The Cap

Ranking the top NFL Right Guard contracts and salaries in the NFL

overthecap.com

 

[dang]

Many of us aren't talking about what the Rams would offer him, but what some OTHER TEAM (with plenty of cap space) might offer him.

IMO, no way Dotson's agent would even consider a 3 year 5M/year contract, even if it were all guaranteed.

We'll revisit this thread in late March, and see how much Dotson signs for once we've reached the "silly season" of free agency.

Highest RG contracts in link:

Right Guard Contracts and Salaries | Over The Cap

Ranking the top NFL Right Guard contracts and salaries in the NFL

overthecap.com

This tells me $15m/yr would be more than fair. But it’s all about the guaranteed $$$.

 

[hotanez]

Kroenke isn't going to sign off on a contract that some on here are advocating. He's already said that cap busting contracts aren't in the budget now.

you just love making up BS and you wonder why people keep laughing about what you post.

 

[Noregar]

I think they have other options at RG if the price gets too high for Dotson. I am in the camp of allocating top OL money into tackles especially Left tackles. I think a better option than paying/overpaying for Dotson, is to take that money (15-20 mil) and to sign Tyron Smith at LT. If they sign Smith they still tender Jackson and move him to right guard while also keeping Noteboom. As far as cap space is concerned Notboom essentially cost 5 mil in cap hit to keep him (15 mil dead cap to cut him) for a backup that is starter capable. He provides excellent depth as he can play 4 postions on the line in case of injury. (Smith could be the next Whitworth). Also if they let Dotson walk the Rams will get 3rd or 4th round comp pick as well. This all hinges on if Dallas can resign Smith or is willing to resign him.

 

[dieterbrock]

. He would be smarter to take less per year but all guaranteed over a shorter contract something like 3 years at $5M/yr. Don't laugh that would make him the 12th highest paid RG.

If you actually read what people respond to you with, you might actually learn something
Here's the top 14 RG contracts. Note that 2/3 of them expire in '25, which means their deals are several years old already.
Dotson will sign for middle of the pack on the low side, and lord knows how high some team will go. I still think 12-15 per is the range, which will include 20-25 mill of guaranteed money.
There is no way they will low ball him to such an embarrassing number that you suggest. The Rams packaged a 4th rounder to get him, he paid that back with exceptional play.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I think they have other options at RG if the price gets too high for Dotson. I am in the camp of allocating top OL money into tackles especially Left tackles. I think a better option than paying/overpaying for Dotson, is to take that money (15-20 mil) and to sign Tyron Smith at LT. If they sign Smith they still tender Jackson and move him to right guard while also keeping Noteboom. As far as cap space is concerned Notboom essnetilly cost 5 mil in cap hit to keep him (15 mil dead cap to cut him) for a backup that is starter capable. He provides excellent depth as he can play 4 postions on the line in case of injury. (Smith could be the next Whitworth). Also if they let Dotson walk the Rams will get 3rd or 4th round comp pick as well. This all hinges on if Dallas can resign Smith or is willing to resign him.

Agree with a lot of these thoughts but I don't know that the Rams will get a comp pick for Dotson.

Compensatory picks are based on a formula that considers the net additions and subtractions via free agency.

The Rams have gotten a ton of comp picks in recent years because they have signed so few players. For example, in 2023, the Rams did not sign a single free agent from another club until after the Draft but lost a bunch. As such, they figure to get 3 or 4 comp picks but all will likely be late rounders because the players lost generally did not sign big contracts.

The up-coming off-season and March/April Free Agency figures to be different, with the Rams likely to sign a few players. Their net additions may exceed their losses (number of players and the contract size and terms are factored in). When all is said-and-done, the Rams my not get any 2025 compensatory picks based on 2024 Free Agency.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Agree with a lot of these thoughts but I don't know that the Rams will get a comp pick for Dotson.

Compensatory picks are based on a formula that considers the net additions and subtractions via free agency.

The Rams have gotten a ton of comp picks in recent years because they have signed so few players. For example, in 2023, the Rams did not sign a single free agent from another club until after the Draft but lost a bunch. As such, they figure to get 3 or 4 comp picks but all will likely be late rounders because the players lost generally did not sign big contracts.

The up-coming off-season and March/April Free Agency figures to be different, with the Rams likely to sign a few players. Their net additions may exceed their losses (number of players and the contract size and terms are factored in). When all is said-and-done, the Rams my not get any 2025 compensatory picks based on 2024 Free Agency.

Interestingly, hasn't Baker's success in the playoffs made it so he might be a 4th or 5th rounder comp as opposed to something lower? I thought I read that somewhere.