Donald & Turner

[Kupped]

Edge is a huge need.

Bryan Young -- hitting a wall? He hustles but tackles have figured him out, perhaps. Needs a year to work on his hands. And rams need to draft one high (1st or 2nd round) depending and/or sign a star.

#spendthecapmoney

The more I watch.. the more I think... "yeah.. I'd like Danielle Hunter.. AND another third rounder at edge"..
One of the reasons I want to trade back.

 

[JimY53]

Plays by Bobby Brown III ---- I cannot find a thread for just him --- so I have put a few here

The first is a gainer but Brown splits a double team by being quick off the ball and into his gap

View: https://x.com/53_jim70721/status/1738136993136103444?s=20




Stills ...

 

[jrry32]

Edge is a huge need.

Bryan Young -- hitting a wall? He hustles but tackles have figured him out, perhaps. Needs a year to work on his hands. And rams need to draft one high (1st or 2nd round) depending and/or sign a star.

#spendthecapmoney

We need a legit EDGE across from Young. Let Young play more of a clean-up role, and he'll excel. He has plenty of athleticism and effort.

 

[JimY53]

This is the still that pleases me

you can see the clip above and the still sequence, but Brown III -- from a 0-tech (and does NOT 2-gap) takes the strong A gap but
finds ball and uses a rip move to get the left guard off of him. A big man with good hand/srm usage.

Yes, he missed the tackle but if you watch clip I think the MIKE should have been there -- and by MIKE I mean the strongside ILBer. Usually, that is Jones when he and Roze are. But lately, in base defense, Reeder has been playing in suspected run downs and he plays the strongside and Jones the weak, making Jones the JACK -- anyway that is getting into the weeds.

Point is Brownn III made a play and got let down by the guys on 2nd level, but this is a man-sized play, showing quickness

 

[JimY53]

This is a good job on a few levels ...

1, Watch Brown just toss the center aside and get in on tackle, seeing the ball, seeing that the gaps were controlled, scraping almost like a linebacker
2. Itty bitty Durant sets the edge. We have 290-pound edge players that don't always get that done
3. JACK backer (in this package) Jones comes in to make the tackle
4. Edge Bryan Young tried to take the weak B gap --I think but the tackle down blocks and he has to take the C gap and even if that was his original; gap he mucks up the pulling guard AND the lead blocker to stop this play --- QB 13/15 power weak.

#TEAMDEFENSE


View: https://x.com/53_jim70721/status/1738140166655443433?s=20

 

[JimY53]

We need a legit EDGE across from Young. Let Young play more of a clean-up role, and he'll excel. He has plenty of athleticism and effort.

Yes. Rams are paying for the "all-in" and we understand it. Rams did it so they will have $$ and picks next year. A priority has to be elite edge rusher. Rams will be drafting in the low-20s (sorry, IMI Rams will be a one-and-done PO team if they make it) and there could be elite rusher there. But IMO BPA between edge, CB and maybe OL ...

If not the draft get the best edge money can buy.

I don't know what you mean by clean-up role, but I think he's going to be good...he needs an off-season of work, to build skills. I'd send him to Chuck Smith's school for pass rushers. So, I think he can be excellent.

But---Young eventually being good does not mean we shouldn't get the best edge possible to put on other side. We should.

 

[jrry32]

Yes. Rams are paying for the "all-in" and we understand it. Rams did it so they will have $$ and picks next year. A priority has to be elite edge rusher. Rams will be drafting in the low-20s (sorry, IMI Rams will be a one-and-done PO team if they make it) and there could be elite rusher there. But IMO BPA between edge, CB and maybe OL ...

If not the draft get the best edge money can buy.

I don't know what you mean by clean-up role, but I think he's going to be good...he needs an off-season of work, to build skills. I'd send him to Chuck Smith's school for pass rushers. So, I think he can be excellent.

But---Young eventually being good does not mean we shouldn't get the best edge possible to put on other side. We should.

I mean that he's not the sort to win quickly with skill at this stage. He may become that guy. He may not. But having a guy who runs a 4.4 40 and plays with relentless effort will pay dividends if you have another EDGE who can flush QBs his direction (plus our interior who can collapse the pocket).

Basically, he would be getting clean-up sacks from other players' pressures. That's valuable, especially when you have a guy who is so freakishly fast that it's hard to escape the pocket to his side of the field.

 

[JimY53]

Basically, he would be getting clean-up sacks from other players' pressures.

Okay, got it. Wasn't sure what you meant

 

[Classic Rams]

 

[Kupped]

This is a good job on a few levels ...

1, Watch Brown just toss the center aside and get in on tackle, seeing the ball, seeing that the gaps were controlled, scraping almost like a linebacker
2. Itty bitty Durant sets the edge. We have 290-pound edge players that don't always get that done
3. JACK backer (in this package) Jones comes in to make the tackle
4. Edge Bryan Young tried to take the weak B gap --I think but the tackle down blocks and he has to take the C gap and even if that was his original; gap he mucks up the pulling guard AND the lead blocker to stop this play --- QB 13/15 power weak.

#TEAMDEFENSE


View: https://x.com/53_jim70721/status/1738140166655443433?s=20

Durant's lack of physicality is my biggest issue with him. Was, to me, by far the best I've seen from him in this aspect.. despite the touchdown he gave up. He'll always come up short against true physical beasts.. .but that was a penalty that wasn't called.. wasn't his fault.
Encouraging.

And.. you know I'm in the Bobby Brown fan club.. he's turning into the guy I hoped he'd be. Build on this year... and add just a little to that front..and they will be brutal on the front 7.

 

[JimY53]

And.. you know I'm in the Bobby Brown fan club.. he's turning into the guy I hoped he'd be. Build on this year... and add just a little to that front..and they will be brutal on the front 7.

He's good. When he applies himself he's tough to handle and IMO, getting better each week.

 

[Memento]

Huge fan of BB3 in his draft year, and honestly, he could still unlock a fair bit of his pass-rushing; he's just so damn young for not even being legally old enough to drink when he was drafted. Only problem I had was effort, and he really has come on.

Add in another big body, like, say, Dontay "The Godfather" Corleone (this year's draft) to go with AD, Kobie "The Conductor" Turner, Hoecht (I still think you play Hoecht on the line where he was solid), and Desjuan Johnson, and you have a very solid D-line.

 

[Memento]

Huge fan of BB3 in his draft year, and honestly, he could still unlock a fair bit of his pass-rushing; he's just so damn young for not even being legally old enough to drink when he was drafted. Only problem I had was effort, and he really has come on.

Add in another big body, like, say, Dontay "The Godfather" Corleone (this year's draft) to go with AD, Kobie "The Conductor" Turner, Hoecht (I still think you play Hoecht on the line where he was solid), and Desjuan Johnson, and you have a very solid D-line.

Never mind, fuck me, he's returning for his redshirt junior year. My mistake. Back to the drawing board I go for DTs (since Newton's out of our draft range, and Corleone's returning to school).

 

[Steve808]

Rams will be drafting in the low-20s (sorry, IMI Rams will be a one-and-done PO team if they make it) and there could be elite rusher there.

If the Rams make it to the playoffs, I don't have delusions of this team going to the SB and winning it. I honestly believe we are a few players short of being an elite team. Plus our kicker sucks which could be a problem. But if Stafford and the offense are on, we can win a playoff game which would make it a great coaching job by McVay. In the first game against the whiners, Stafford was hot and it not for that 2nd quarter TD by the whiners with 1 second left in the half, it may have been a different game. Not to mention it seems like the f-n whiners always have a man standing right there whenever a ball gets batted in the air while Purdy's falls to the ground. If those breaks go our way, we win that game.

 

[oldnotdead]

Every team has flaws. This offense is as good as any of the so called contenders including the Niners. When played aggressively this defense can be "good enough" at this point. They are peaking as a team at exactly the right time.

IMO the offense this year is better than the one that won the Lombardi. In 2018 the Rams made the SB with the 21st ranked defense and this year the defense isn't that much different in the rankings. Adjust for DK being benched and this defense is probably similarly ranked.

Do I wish the defense was better? Absolutely, but again that has more to do with how Morris plays them than the actual talent on the roster. Just the shift to Durant from DK showed that on Sunday.

 

[JimY53]

Absolutely, but again that has more to do with how Morris plays them than the actual talent on the roster. Just the shift to Durant from DK showed that on Sunday.

How do you know "how Morris plays them"? Based on your comments about just the 0-tech it follows that if you don't understand what is happening then you might have an errant perception of Morris.

But, if you think you are right, it would be wonderful for you to show some examples of Morris 2-gapping his 0-tech NT.

 

[Kupped]

Every team has flaws. This offense is as good as any of the so called contenders including the Niners. When played aggressively this defense can be "good enough" at this point. They are peaking as a team at exactly the right time.

IMO the offense this year is better than the one that won the Lombardi. In 2018 the Rams made the SB with the 21st ranked defense and this year the defense isn't that much different in the rankings. Adjust for DK being benched and this defense is probably similarly ranked.

Do I wish the defense was better? Absolutely, but again that has more to do with how Morris plays them than the actual talent on the roster. Just the shift to Durant from DK showed that on Sunday.

Lol.

The defense is where it is because of coaching and it's playing below it's talent level.

That's some high-comedy shit.

The Rams have one... 1.. uno.. first rounder on defense. ONE. Aaron Donald.
He's next to a 3rd and 4th rounder on the line.. and a UDFA and 3rd rounder on the edge.
Off ball linebackers are a 3rd rounder and two UDFAs.
Starting safeties are a 6th rounder and a vet-minimum guy who was released.. but had been a third rounder... just like one of the starting corners.
The other starting corner is either a 4th rounder or 6th rounder.. depending on who's going.
They have a nice role player at safety/star who was drafted in the 6th round.

This defense has an absolute dearth of talent and it's unfuckingbelievable that they're not last in just about every category.
People outside of the Rams media beat who watch this say it's amazing.
We know the secondary guys are all limited.. but... somehow.. they confuse the opposing QBs enough to get stops.

It's been a HELL of a coaching job on that side of the ball. Period. I don't give a fuck if you want to credit Pleasant.. Henderson.. Lake.. I don't care.. but the REALITY is that unit is punching way above its weight.

Just for some goddamn perspecitve

Cleveland has the number one D this year.

Myles Garrett number one overall pick and the best defensive player this side of Aaron Donald.
Next to him is Dalvin Tomlinson.. a second round pick on his third team who signed a 4 year $57 million dollar deal.
Jordan Elliot.. a third rounder.
Zadarius Smith.. a former first rounder who's on a 3-year $42 million dollar contract.

Off ball Lb
2nd rounder
5th rounder
3rd rounder

Safeties
UDFA.. but only because their starter.. a second rounder.. is hurt.
2nd rounder they signed on a 3 year $21 million dollar deal

Corners
Denzel Ward was the number 4 overall pick in the draft
Another first rounder


So.. get the fuck outta here with the nonsense that the coaching is, somehow, holding this defense back. Anyone.... ANYONE who pays attention to the NFL knows they've overachieved. How? I honestly have no idea. They have no pass rush and no real playmakers in the defensive secondary.. it's freaking wizardry and/or good fortune, best I can tell.

 

[JimY53]

The circles indicate gap assignments. See how they overlap? Also, notice---Durant as the star playing the ILBer in this package.

 

[JimY53]

So.. get the fuck outta here with the nonsense that the coaching is, somehow, holding this defense back. Anyone.... ANYONE who pays attention to the NFL knows they've overachieved.

It would be one thing if the opinion was formed from an understanding of the defense. It's one thing just to say "Morris stinks" over and over and over.

But it is another to misrepresent what is happening with detailed posts about scheme, coaching points, and saying Morris is "stupid" and a "scared" with not a single photo, video, link to some site that buttresses his positions,

Dieter says it best----

 

[JimY53]

I have to ask, if Morris plays his NT as a 0-tech and Staley did the same thing does that have any effect as to whether both 2-gapped their NT or if just Morris does?

These are all from 2020...