GAME DAY Dolphins at Chiefs - Wild Card Saturday 8:15pm ET

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There was a hold on that play too, which should have been called. At HS level, would still have resulted in a first down. Live hold enforced, dead ball roughing enforced Ma’Auto first
Yep. The roughing was fine, the QB took a couple steps after the ball was out. That's a call nine times out of ten.

But should have been offsetting. The LT hold was clear.

Chiefs get a lot of calls man.
 

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Run game gets stuffed and playoff exit. Hmm who does that remind you of... :thinking:
 

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Yep. The roughing was fine, the QB took a couple steps after the ball was out. That's a call nine times out of ten.

But should have been offsetting. The LT hold was clear.

Chiefs get a lot of calls man.
I don’t know NFL rules that well. Hold is a live ball foul. Play ends, that late hit, the ball is incomplete and is considered dead.

In HS at least, penalties can both be enforced. 10 yards back on hold. 15 forward and automatic first on roughing the passer.

Same in NFL:
 

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Dude with his shirt off must have some moonshine close by
 

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I don’t know NFL rules that well. Hold is a live ball foul. Play ends, that late hit, the ball is incomplete and is considered dead.

In HS at least, penalties can both be enforced. 10 yards back on hold. 15 forward and automatic first on roughing the passer.

Same in NFL:
I'm no rulebook memorizer either. Now I'm confused thanks.
 

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Burn that clock kc.
 

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Well. Guess I'll watch something on Peacock now that I got a subscription.

This Peacock deal is screwed up. It's not a one time ppv to watch. It's a full subscription. Just to watch one game.

I call b.s.
 

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Well. Guess I'll watch something on Peacock now that I got a subscription.

This Peacock deal is screwed up. It's not a one time ppv to watch. It's a full subscription. Just to watch one game.

I call b.s.
Yep, straight up shitty deal.
 

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It’s shitty.

I will say.. there’s some really good shows.

Poker Face is a shit-ton of fun.
 

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I'm sure Taylor Swift is stoked the Chiefs got so many home runs tonight!
 

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It’s shitty.

I will say.. there’s some really good shows.

Poker Face is a shit-ton of fun.
That's what I was gonna try out. Good to hear!
 

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Today’s games reiterated that when it comes to the postseason- whoever has the better QB wins. Luckily Rams have one of the best of this generation. Ready for Sunday night!
 

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Today’s games reiterated that when it comes to the postseason- whoever has the better QB wins. Luckily Rams have one of the best of this generation. Ready for Sunday night!
Defense didn't win the Browns a championship today either!
 
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My son is a burgeoning football fan and he was SHOUTING at the lack of calls (especially holding) against KC. It’s the first time I’ve seen him do that. He was fine if the call was legit (he was casually rooting for Miami), but just couldn’t wrap his head around why the game is refereed like this.

The NFL needs to fix this because those Swifties aren’t gonna stay once Kelce retires this or next year and potential new fans who might become lifelong fans are really turned off by it
 

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I'm no rulebook memorizer either. Now I'm confused thanks.
The ball is in play on the hold, hence live.

The ball is incomplete on the pass. Foul considered to occur afterwards. Play is dead, penalty occurs after.

Both enforced along a timeline. Holding 10 yards back. 2nd down and 20. Roughing enforced after holding measured off.

15 yards forward and automatic first down. Play results in a first and 10.

Therefore, live penalty enforced, then dead ball foul enforced.

Hopefully I haven’t confused more, but that’s the technical gist broken into layperson terms. I had to learn this too, it takes a few efforts and helps when you’re on the field to recognize what has transpired.
 

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I'm sure Taylor Swift is stoked the Chiefs got so many home runs tonight!
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