Deep Draft Sleepers/UDFA guys - 2025 edition

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Wow he’s like having a heat seeking missile out there. Ball carriers are probably like, wow where’d he come from?!
He reminds me of another undersized LB who did nothing but make tackles all the way to the HOF:
Zach Thomas

I’m not saying this guy is THAT good, but he has that instinct, the ability to quickly read a play and pounce before an OL can get a beed on him. Of course, you never know how collegiate play will translate to the pros, but it’s not like he played in div III.
 

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I’m right there with ya, Merlin. Check out my “March Madness Mock”. I put him on my UDFA list for the Rams to sign immediately following the draft because I couldn’t fit him into my mock.

Yes, Martin is a bit undersized but he has that LB mentality and has been labeled the best way a LB can: “a tackling machine.”

Now that the Rams have four 6th round picks, they can just grab him. He would, at the very least (as you mentioned), be an asset on STs.
That draft simulator site claims his missed tackle percentage is very high. They didn't have a great write up for him.
 

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That draft simulator site claims his missed tackle percentage is very high. They didn't have a great write up for him.
Every game I've seen of his he is all over the field. He led his conference with 140 tackles. 83 solo. Most since 2018. So I think he gets in position to make the play more than most of his peers.

He will last on the board due to size and the fact this looks like a nice offball backer class. But his skills are gonna translate and if I were Shula what I am after is speed to the sideline to nullify running QBs, not between the tackles thumpers.
 

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That draft simulator site claims his missed tackle percentage is very high. They didn't have a great write up for him.
That’s surprising. I’ve read positive things about him.
I would still spend a 6th rounder on him. Should he go undrafted, I would definitely bring him into camp as an UDFA.
 

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Every game I've seen of his he is all over the field. He led his conference with 140 tackles. 83 solo. Most since 2018. So I think he gets in position to make the play more than most of his peers.

He will last on the board due to size and the fact this looks like a nice offball backer class. But his skills are gonna translate and if I were Shula what I am after is speed to the sideline to nullify running QBs, not between the tackles thumpers.
Actually it wasnt as bad as I recall. Maybe they tweeked it recently. I remember passing on him after reading their write up. Still ranked him as the 248th best player.

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Nick Martin LB Oklahoma State
Height: 5 - 11 |Weight: 221 lbs |RAS: 8.55

Nickolas Martin is a quick twitch athlete who has excellent play speed as an undersized linebacker and had high production totals in 2023 before only playing five games in 2024. He led the Big 12 in solo tackles with 83 and had 16 tackles for loss. Additionally, Martin is an effective blitzer who can consistently impact the pocket, with 30 pressures in 2023 on 98 pass-rushing snaps. Martin is a physical run defender who seeks out contact and can beat offensive linemen to make plays. The injury in 2024 means that he has a limited college sample size with only one full season of playing time. Martin can play a little too out of control sometimes and can miss tackles, with a career 13.2% missed tackle rate.
 

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Actually it wasnt as bad as I recall. Maybe they tweeked it recently. I remember passing on him after reading their write up. Still ranked him as the 248th best player.

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Nick Martin LB Oklahoma State
Height: 5 - 11 |Weight: 221 lbs |RAS: 8.55

Nickolas Martin is a quick twitch athlete who has excellent play speed as an undersized linebacker and had high production totals in 2023 before only playing five games in 2024. He led the Big 12 in solo tackles with 83 and had 16 tackles for loss. Additionally, Martin is an effective blitzer who can consistently impact the pocket, with 30 pressures in 2023 on 98 pass-rushing snaps. Martin is a physical run defender who seeks out contact and can beat offensive linemen to make plays. The injury in 2024 means that he has a limited college sample size with only one full season of playing time. Martin can play a little too out of control sometimes and can miss tackles, with a career 13.2% missed tackle rate.
They still project him as a UDFA
 

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They still project him as a UDFA
That’s ok with me. The Rams should bring him into camp. Currently they only have two real ILBs, and knowing McVay, we probably won’t see them play a single down in preseason. The Rams will have to have at least four other ILBs for those games and practices.

Why not give Martin a shot?
 

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Not a deep draft sleeper because he's going early...but I don't think Donovan Ezeiruaku gets the sheer credit he deserves. I would put him above every edge rusher in this class with maybe Abdul Carter as the exception, and I am dead fucking serious.

Let's be frank: he's definitely not the biggest edge rusher (6'2", 248). He's not the freak athlete that Pearce or Stewart are, even though he is a very good athlete in his own right (and proved it at the Combine). He doesn't have the best get-off (even though he's fairly explosive, it's not exactly sudden).

But his technique, relentless motor, and ability to bend off the edge while still deploying counters to counters is so mature for a college player. I'd have to say that if AD was that size, he'd remind me of Ezeiruaku; that's the kind of technical prowess I'm talking about. He's not just a designated pass rusher either; he understands leverage, has long enough arms (34 inches), and trusts his technique enough that he can stack and shed tackles to get the running back/quarterback down for a loss. Not a massively violent or strong player, but smart, lengthy, with underrated athleticism and a serious knowledge of technique and leverage. Add in that he's a smart and mature kid (will only turn twenty-two in September) who worked his ass off to get where he is (not rated on 247Sports and a three-star on Rivals, came back with a vengeance after he struggled through injury and ineffectiveness in 2023), and that's exactly the kind of person that would appeal to McSnead.

I saw NFL.com's comparison: Yannick Ngakoue. I think he's going to be a much better player than Ngakoue because unlike Ngakoue, he has the ability to defend the run just as good as he does the pass. I think my comparison - and I realize this is going to sound shocking - is Robert Mathis. I'm not one for forcing a pick at a position we don't need...but if Ezeiruaku was the pick at #26, I would be seriously pleased as punch.



 
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I wouldn’t mind Eze being the pick - simply because pass rushers are so valuable and impactful these days. Getting another Verse type for 5 years (IF our scouts believe he’s it) - sign me up.
 

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That’s ok with me. The Rams should bring him into camp. Currently they only have two real ILBs, and knowing McVay, we probably won’t see them play a single down in preseason. The Rams will have to have at least four other ILBs for those games and practices.

Why not give Martin a shot?
I have no problem with that. I just f do not understand the excitement over a UDFA type.

Sure, done turn out to be valuable players. Most, never start.
 

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Not a deep draft sleeper because he's going early...but I don't think Donovan Ezeiruaku gets the sheer credit he deserves. I would put him above every edge rusher in this class with maybe Abdul Carter as the exception, and I am dead fucking serious.

Let's be frank: he's definitely not the biggest edge rusher (6'2", 248). He's not the freak athlete that Pearce or Stewart are, even though he is a very good athlete in his own right (and proved it at the Combine). He doesn't have the best get-off (even though he's fairly explosive, it's not exactly sudden).

But his technique, relentless motor, and ability to bend off the edge while still deploying counters to counters is so mature for a college player. I'd have to say that if AD was that size, he'd remind me of Ezeiruaku; that's the kind of technical prowess I'm talking about. He's not just a designated pass rusher either; he understands leverage, has long enough arms (34 inches), and trusts his technique enough that he can stack and shed tackles to get the running back/quarterback down for a loss. Not a massively violent or strong player, but smart, lengthy, with underrated athleticism and a serious knowledge of technique and leverage. Add in that he's a smart and mature kid (will only turn twenty-two in September) who worked his ass off to get where he is (not rated on 247Sports and a three-star on Rivals, came back with a vengeance after he struggled through injury and ineffectiveness in 2023), and that's exactly the kind of person that would appeal to McSnead.

I saw NFL.com's comparison: Yannick Ngakoue. I think he's going to be a much better player than Ngakoue because unlike Ngakoue, he has the ability to defend the run just as good as he does the pass. I think my comparison - and I realize this is going to sound shocking - is Robert Mathis. I'm not one for forcing a pick at a position we don't need...but if Ezeiruaku was the pick at #26, I would be seriously pleased as punch.




A first round pick isn't getting credit?
 

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A first round pick isn't getting credit?

I feel like he's the best edge in the class with only Abdul Carter having a say, in an edge class that is incredibly strong at the top. That's what people, I feel, don't see.
 

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Your front 7 gets quite a bit of subbing throughout a game. Another edge isn't crazy, not my choice but not crazy. It would be quite possible for a versatile player along the DL/Edge to get more playing time than a 1st round WR/RB/OL maybe even TE. At least until the skill player was brought up to McVay's level of competence. It just depends on the player. Obviously in the first you are looking for productive snaps in the Inaugural season or a replacement at a franchise position that you can afford to let sit.
 
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I feel like he's the best edge in the class with only Abdul Carter having a say, in an edge class that is incredibly strong at the top. That's what people, I feel, don't see.
It's such an odd draft, Carter is flawed, needs more power and it may really hamper him early on. Eze plays @ 100 and that is a good football trait. Will his somewhat lack of size and athleticism (not like he isn't athletic) restrict him or lessen his effectiveness,, we will see? I love football players, AD was a football player first.......Eze wouldn't kill me at all
 

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It's such an odd draft, Carter is flawed, needs more power and it may really hamper him early on. Eze plays @ 100 and that is a good football trait. Well his somewhat lack of size and athletics (not like he isn't athletic) restrict him or lessen his effectiveness. I love football players, AD was a football player first.......Eze wouldn't kill me at all

It's the technique, length, knowledge of leverage, and maturity when it comes to bouncing back combined with actual sneaky great athleticism (91st percentile in the forty, 90th in the three-cone, above average everywhere but on the bench press - which was still twenty-two reps) that makes me think that McSnead would look into Ezeiruaku.

I would not be surprised to see him as a top fifteen pick. I would also not be surprised to see him as a guy who falls a bit because of his lack of size and supposed athletic limitations. Either way, at #26, especially if the board doesn't fall our way and there's no easy trade down, I'd take him without regrets because that Robert Mathis comparison is as close to a comparison that I can find.
 

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@Memento At 1 point he was outside the top 10 edges and there ae a lot of pretty high profile players around him. He could slot in 20 - 35 or as you say someone loves him and takes him over Williams or Green Or?

Look at this DraftBuzz List
 

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@Memento At 1 point he was outside the top 10 edges and there ae a lot of pretty high profile players around him. He could slot in 20 - 35 or as you say someone loves him and takes him over Williams or Green Or?

Look at this DraftBuzz List
There are. I firmly believe that he's a better technician than all of them with more athleticism than expected. He's the one who won the best defensive end award over everyone, tied Harold Landry's BC sack record.

I like him a hell of a lot more than Pearce, Green, Shemar Stewart, and Shemar Turner, all of whom are on my DND list. Williams is too iffy for me. Doesn't produce enough to his talents. Umanmielen isn't good enough in the run game to take a chance on in the first. Josaiah Stewart doesn't have the physical traits to translate (i.e., doesn't have Ezeiruaku's length or athleticism to compensate for his lacking size). Scourton, Sawyer, Jackson, and Tuimoloau are all solid players whom I feel could be good pros, I understand that Abdul Carter is the blue-chip prospect, but I like Ezeiruaku's chances more than any of them.
 

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It’s looking like this thread will have a 2026 version.

Rams have two 5ths next year - one for Ernest Jones.
Lost a 6th (again for Ernest Jones pick swap)
A 6th for Ben Skowronek
A 6th for Tre White.
Currently projected for a 6th round compensation pick for Demarcus Robinson.
*I think the conditions were not met in the Cam Akers trade since he got injured.
 

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