Coleman Shelton Signs with Rams

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Whatever the case at least we have some depth there. Its the second most important position behind left tackle. Sometimes experience trumps raw size and ability over the course of a whole season. So I'm fine with Shelton there as the starter. I will say Shelton is pretty light for an NFL offense lineman at 285 pounds. And bulking up the middle of the line didn't seem to make a difference. So maybe its not about size.
 

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Limmer's issues aren't size or athletic ability, if he wants the job, he's gotta get better at the line calls and communication.

It's all on him at this point.

Regardless, Rams have a team that could go all the way and the acted accordingly by bringing in a vet they trust to make those calls. It remains to be seen if Limmer can accelerate his timeline.
 

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I like Revel quite a lot. He’s my favorite CB at 26. Simmons is my top OT. Trade back is cool too though.
Whomever they pick though - I’m pretty excited to get into camp and in the team. It’s nice fully trusting the FO.
Yeah totally with you there. I'm pretty excited to see what route the Rams go. I'm also bracing for a WTF pick (good or bad) as its so hard to pinpoint their plans.
 

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Being confirmed starter in April means jack shit. He will need to hold onto that job through camp, and Limmer is going to be a real challenge for him. So whoever ends up starting will win what should be a competitive process, and hopefully from there we are ready to roll week one instead of seeing the OL play like fucking garbage as per usual early in the season.

Maybe this will be the year the Rams come out of the gate hot.
Yeah I hear you there. We seem to come out flatter than most when the season first starts and heat up towards the end. I'd love to stay on fire all year long.
 

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Limmer's issues aren't size or athletic ability, if he wants the job, he's gotta get better at the line calls and communication.

It's all on him at this point.

Regardless, Rams have a team that could go all the way and the acted accordingly by bringing in a vet they trust to make those calls. It remains to be seen if Limmer can accelerate his timeline.
It’s part of building the perfect beast. Shelton holds the starting position now with Limmer hot on his tail. Limmer learns and progresses into the starter next year. No more forcing Avila or a late draft pick into backup center. I trust the Rams.
 
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Limmer's issues aren't size or athletic ability, if he wants the job, he's gotta get better at the line calls and communication.

It's all on him at this point.

Regardless, Rams have a team that could go all the way and the acted accordingly by bringing in a vet they trust to make those calls. It remains to be seen if Limmer can accelerate his timeline.
If Limmer was the superior pass blocker I could agree with the gripe about this move. But, he’s really not. The run blocking is close. Neither center is a wall in pass blocking.

So when they both are pretty equal then go with the bigger brain with more experience.
 
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I'm not sure why Shelton-for-Limmer is such a big deal to so many posters.

The Rams are trying to win a Lombardi Right Now; and they were RIGHT THERE two months ago in Philly.

That Fuck-up on-3rd-and-3 was not a minor thing that happens sometimes.
The Rams center and right guard allowed the Best Player on the Eagles' Defense a free run for a sack on the play that could have allowed the Rams to host an NFC Championship Game.

It was a HUGE fucking deal. I mean, Off-the-Charts. THAT mistake, at that time, can NOT happen.
What the Hell were Limmer and Dotson thinking!?!?
Kevin Dotson was the Rams' best O-Lineman last season. Dotson has the 2nd highest cap hit in 2025.
The Rams were Not going to replace Kevin Dotson in 2025.

Limmer is a 6th Round pick, entering his 2nd season. Center is a challenging position for a young player.
If he improves, Limmer will eventually start again ... and could end-up being the long-term starting center.

However, the Rams' Brain Trust determined that they MUST HAVE a viable veteran option at center.
It's OK to challenge the decision to bring back Shelton instead of another veteran, but perhaps (my guess) they (including Stafford) have a level of comfort and confidence with Shelton who was with them for years.
Pff grades Limmer very poorly in pass protection. Seems that's consistent with that the Rams saw. Shelton on the other hand was an above average pass protector according to pff.
 

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Being confirmed starter in April means jack shit. He will need to hold onto that job through camp, and Limmer is going to be a real challenge for him. So whoever ends up starting will win what should be a competitive process, and hopefully from there we are ready to roll week one instead of seeing the OL play like fucking garbage as per usual early in the season.

Maybe this will be the year the Rams come out of the gate hot.
I hope so. Because if you add a hot start Rams team to the mid season Rams we usually get, then the NFC goes through SoFi.
 

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A fifth-year veteran provided better leadership than a rookie?

I’m very disappointed that the Rams are apparently giving up on Limmer so quickly. Yes - he fucked up against Philly. But he wasn’t the only one.

Limmer’s ceiling is far higher than Shelton’s, so let’s hope that he knuckles down in pre-season and re-establishes himself as the starting centre.
Maybe the communication issues with Limmer were larger than just the fuck up against Philly. It could have been a season long thing since it was reported towards the end of the year that Stafford had to make the protection calls.

My bet is that Limmer will have his chance in the future but right now there is no time to waste since they won't have Staff for long and they're trying to win it all now.
 

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Two things for me on this.

First that 3rd and 3 wasn't just him.

Two and bigger we watched Shelton for years and he's not any better though we've had this discussion many times.
It sounds like McSnead put the 3rd and 3 on bad communication which is the center's responsibility. We can directly compare Shelton's individual performance to Limmer's but we as fans can't assess the communication aspect.

Only the players/coaches/GM can say who's better there.
 

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Limmer's issues aren't size or athletic ability, if he wants the job, he's gotta get better at the line calls and communication.

It's all on him at this point.

Regardless, Rams have a team that could go all the way and the acted accordingly by bringing in a vet they trust to make those calls. It remains to be seen if Limmer can accelerate his timeline.
This! After Snead explained it, it seems pretty simple. I'd like a more physically imposing center but that's just one aspect of the job.
 

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Isn't the center the QB of the oline? If that is the case, I would argue he should take full credit for the miscommunication that caused them both to go the wrong way.

I am not a fan of Shelton either, but I think this move really sends a message to Limmer to get his shit together if he wants to get on the field.

I also think, that the brain trust learned this past season, that making the calls was too difficult for all three of their centers last year and if it is that difficult, then lets not assume, like they did last year, that the center we have, who had all season, will pick it up in time for the next season. In their minds, they can't afford the mental fuck ups that I am guessing showed up a lot last season.
 

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It sounds like McSnead put the 3rd and 3 on bad communication which is the center's responsibility. We can directly compare Shelton's individual performance to Limmer's but we as fans can't assess the communication aspect.

Only the players/coaches/GM can say who's better there.
Well what i gather from everyone pimping for Shelton is he and Stafford will be better able to communicate his poor blocking.
 

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Yeah I hear you there. We seem to come out flatter than most when the season first starts and heat up towards the end. I'd love to stay on fire all year long.
And the oline gets so few "real" reps in camp that it usually takes them the longest to jell every season (this is true for all the teams, not just us).
 

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Maybe the communication issues with Limmer were larger than just the fuck up against Philly. It could have been a season long thing since it was reported towards the end of the year that Stafford had to make the protection calls.

My bet is that Limmer will have his chance in the future but right now there is no time to waste since they won't have Staff for long and they're trying to win it all now.
I believe I read Dotson had to make some of the calls for Limmer during the season as he was getting up to speed.

I think the kid was just swimming in the deep end. And he may be able master the mental stuff, it just depends on his timeline.