Bryce Hager

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Lot's of threads saying move Tree to MLB but I really liked what I saw from Hager in pre-season and on Specials during season. He seems smart and instinctive. Not sure if he's big enough yet to take on blockers but he sure has the speed/pursuit that JL was lacking. I'd rather keep Tree on the outside for his speed and also unsure if he'd be able to handle additional responsibility of getting D set. Tree/Hager/Barron?
 
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I'd put Barron in the middle long before Hager. He's far too small to handle the middle.
 
Ogletree is probably the most suited to fill in for JL but I'm thinking there well be adjustment struggles early on without our defensive field general. I don't think anyone on this defense has the understanding of the game that JL had yet.
 
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Mark Barron has been listed forever as being over 6-2/213 pounder now that is pure skinny for a SS but were are talking Lber. I agree Bryce Hager is shorter than Barron. Hager when he was a college scaled at 235 lbs, I really doubt that when we see Bryce Hager in his second season TC & pre season....that we will see a dinky small under sized MLB'er. Bryce Hager is sure to have already caught the eye of Frank Bush & Gregg Williams. Alex Ogletree will remain playing one of the outside Lb'er posts.
 
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It would be a bad mistake to put AO in the middle, we need to find our Mike from outside the team. Ogle tree has the same deficiencies as JL, we need a stout MFer in there to shed a block and plug the damn hole at the LOS. I don't see AO being that type of guy at all.
 
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PowayRamFan said:
It would be a bad mistake to put AO in the middle, we need to find our Mike from outside the team. Ogle tree has the same deficiencies as JL, we need a stout MFer in there to shed a block and plug the damn hole at the LOS. I don't see AO being that type of guy at all.
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So many of you underestimate Ogletree. He is far more athletic than y'all give him credit for.
 
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PowayRamFan said:
It would be a bad mistake to put AO in the middle, we need to find our Mike from outside the team. Ogle tree has the same deficiencies as JL, we need a stout MFer in there to shed a block and plug the damn hole at the LOS. I don't see AO being that type of guy at all.
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I would hate to labor up & box in a rare talented far ranging side line to sideline Lb'er like Tree. Keep Tree loose, freed up & instinctive at all times. I doubt we will see much of a old style Mike type LBer in the 2016 defense if our defensive front of Brockers/Donald/Hayes/Quinn remain healthy.
 
NateDawg122 said:
So many of you underestimate Ogletree. He is far more athletic than y'all give him credit for.
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I agree that he is very athletic. He doesn't seem to be a gap filler or have the ability to stack and shed like a MLB should. Maybe that changes, but I think it is even less likely coming off a broken limb. Of course I thought there was no way JL55 was going anywhere so....
 
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Rams43 said:
Ogletree was thriving at OLB. Hell, he was playing at Pro Bowl level until hurt.

Why would we want to move such a player to MLB?

Why not get (or promote) another player to be our 2 down MLB?
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Why would we want a limited player at Mike when we can have Ogletreee and Barron on the field instead? Now, we have speed and coverage skills. Which mean more in today's NFL than having a thumper. Not to mention the fact that we often play T.J. in the box. So that gives us 8 guys in the box on most running downs.

In today's NFL, you need range and coverage skills at Mike. Very few teams rely on thumpers anymore. One of the few teams that did, Detroit, just released their thumper (Tulloch).
 
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Pretty sure Carolina is glad to have a guy like Kuechly at the Mike. I don't think they want to move him outside.

I think Williams feels pretty confident that Ogletree can be that kind of player, especially with our DL.
 
Mackeyser said:
Pretty sure Carolina is glad to have a guy like Kuechly at the Mike. I don't think they want to move him outside.

I think Williams feels pretty confident that Ogletree can be that kind of player, especially with our DL.
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Keek is a rarity.
 
BonifayRam said:
Mark Barron has been listed forever as being over 6-2/213 pounder now that is pure skinny for a SS but were are talking Lber. I agree Bryce Hager is shorter than Barron. Hager when he was a college scaled at 235 lbs, I really doubt that when we see Bryce Hager in his second season TC & pre season....that we will see a dinky small under sized MLB'er. Bryce Hager is sure to have already caught the eye of Frank Bush & Gregg Williams. Alex Ogletree will remain playing one of the outside Lb'er posts.
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Yeah, it seems they never update the weights for players.
 
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