YUP happens to me ALL THE TIME ANCIENT LOGIC takes time, these youngn's better hope they discover that.Even though my reply was short it took me a long time to write it. PT is way to fast for me as usual.![]()
YUP happens to me ALL THE TIME ANCIENT LOGIC takes time, these youngn's better hope they discover that.Even though my reply was short it took me a long time to write it. PT is way to fast for me as usual.![]()
Yeah - gotta chisel all that BS on yer stone tablets.YUP happens to me ALL THE TIME ANCIENT LOGIC takes time, these youngn's better hope they discover that.
The latest cutting edge chisels.RamFan503 noting that a technician is only as good as his tools:
Yeah - gotta chisel all that BS on yer stone tablets.
Martz was 56-36 with 4 playoffs and a SB appearance. In 5 1/2 years. Not counting OC in 99. I can't believe there is a Rams fan who lived thru the last 20 years who can discount that. To me he's an obvious interview for OC. At least, if you're trying to win. As Blue and Gold has done an excellent job of pointing out, rumors of him losing his touch after the Rams are greatly exaggerated. His winning percentage and QB performances using what (aside from Cutler) most other teams considered scrub QBs would seem to be appealing to a team with 3 open spots at QB and no obvious options to fix that beyond Bradford and his knee.
He was FWIW hired to save the HC's job after they were on the hot seat,even in Vermeil's case, the exception there was the talent, even Martz can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit but I DO BELIEVE he can get more out of lesser talent than anyone I've seen.Martz was 56-36 with 4 playoffs and a SB appearance. In 5 1/2 years. Not counting OC in 99. I can't believe there is a Rams fan who lived thru the last 20 years who can discount that. To me he's an obvious interview for OC. At least, if you're trying to win. As Blue and Gold has done an excellent job of pointing out, rumors of him losing his touch after the Rams are greatly exaggerated. His winning percentage and QB performances using what (aside from Cutler) most other teams considered scrub QBs would seem to be appealing to a team with 3 open spots at QB and no obvious options to fix that beyond Bradford and his knee.
That's just an impression that doesn't take into account that he had an NFC championship game in OT with Bulger,right now from where we are that looks pretty damned goodIf he isn't bringing his time machine to get Warner and Faulk he won't accomplish much.
I guess he's a simpleton who can show this. But I didn't see anything that meets your own standard of "proof". You just gave opinion without any proof that he's a simpleton, or lucky, or never did anything noteworthy without the 1999 Vermeil team.
But it's good to know that you hold your own opinions higher than Vermeil. Well done.
Bulger
28-13 .683 with Martz
13-41 .228 with everyone else
Warner
34-15 .694 with Martz
32-34 .471 with everyone else
Cuntler
17-8 .680 with Mike Martz
44-50 .468 with everyone else
And the winning percentage under Martz for these QBs (Warner, Bulger, Green, Hill, Kitna, Cutler) is 60%. The same QBs have a winning percentage of 44% under everyone else.
Well, 30 years of experience in complex systems is simply not good enough, nor is being the Head Coach of a winning Super Bowl team. How dare you think your opinion has merit?
tually he was on a Bears playoff team. Got caught up in the moment. But, wouldn't you like to hear Cutler's take. Fact is. Martz kills QB'sNice cherry picking. Let's see with Warner Martz had Faulk. As well as an all star receiving corps. With Bulget Martz had Faulk and Jackson receivers and OL. Cutler had Forte and again a very good offensive line and defense. Outside of the championship team he inherited tho.not once did he coach a top 10 offense. And no playoff appearances. I'm guessing people love it when you are on their side of the argument. Btw, Martz was NEVER Head Coach of a Super Bowl winning team genius!
Ok, I guess using facts is off limits.Knock it off with the personal attacks and knock it off with the climate change crap because it's too divisive.
Nice cherry picking. Let's see with Warner Martz had Faulk. As well as an all star receiving corps. With Bulget Martz had Faulk and Jackson receivers and OL. Cutler had Forte and again a very good offensive line and defense. Outside of the championship team he inherited tho.not once did he coach a top 10 offense. And no playoff appearances. I'm guessing people love it when you are on their side of the argument. Btw, Martz was NEVER Head Coach of a Super Bowl winning team genius!
Maybe you could try it and find outOk, I guess using facts is off limits.
If he isn't bringing his time machine to get Warner and Faulk he won't accomplish much.
The facts are undeniable. Climate change is real. The Industrial revolution played a great part. And other than the GSOT Martz had a substandard career. I suppose you don't believe Roundup is killing the bees either.Maybe you could try it and find out
The facts that matters most to me are, you've been told to drop the AGW because it's divisive, the personal attacks as well and pick ignore facts about Martz that don't serve your opinions AND seem to be baiting into as many controversial topics as you can in order to insult other postersThe facts are undeniable. Climate change is real. The Industrial revolution played a great part. And other than the GSOT Martz had a substandard career. I suppose you don't believe Roundup is killing the bees either.
The biggest fly in the ointment is both Fish and Kroenke have reason to not want him back here.
Martz was 56-36 with 4 playoffs and a SB appearance. In 5 1/2 years. Not counting OC in 99. I can't believe there is a Rams fan who lived thru the last 20 years who can discount that. To me he's an obvious interview for OC. At least, if you're trying to win. As Blue and Gold has done an excellent job of pointing out, rumors of him losing his touch after the Rams are greatly exaggerated. His winning percentage and QB performances using what (aside from Cutler) most other teams considered scrub QBs would seem to be appealing to a team with 3 open spots at QB and no obvious options to fix that beyond Bradford and his knee.
Kroenke was part of the owner group that fired Martz and reversing that in a way is an afront to Shaw in particular, who Krooenke remains close to, Fisher ,for him it'd be an ego thing , sort of a if you can't beat em join em thing, JMO any pre existing animosity or reason for any comes into playI'm curious... what are those reasons?
Kroenke knows him from being part owner of the Rams for those years.... but not sure what reason he would have to not want him back.
And I can't imagine Fisher knows Martz much at all... so how could he have a reason?
I'm not on board with bringing Martz in, but your comment is intriguing.