Brian Allen Signs 3yr Extension

[ottoman89]

I think the run game weakness is why they went after Robinson. I don't expect the run game to do much next season.

I think we need to look into a true blocking FB/H-Back and TE. Mundt was an excellent blocker, going to miss that.

Surprises me that Edwards RB is weakening considering he played at WIS and they're a run heavy team.

I think our LG needs to be a run blocker to help.

 

[Merlin]

Agreed. With Noteboom at OLT the run game will be even worse. That left side is weak.

The only saving grace is that Shelton looked like a better run blocker last season so if Allen can improve in that area they may be able to run right with a little more success.

Edwards took a step back last year. He was a decent run blocker in 2020.

Yeah Edwards was one of the disappointments last season. He played well when it mattered but his season overall was below expectations. The reason he stuck in this lineup was his ability to hold up to opposing 3T, which was something Boom and the others couldn't handle at that time. But I really expected him to play at a Pro Bowl level for us last season so that was disappointing to me.

Once again I would move Edwards to the right side next to Hav. That LG spot should ideally go to Jackson so all he has to do is slide outside when needed, and enables his feet to not be reworked like would happen if he was to compete on the right side. Now some OL the footwork stuff comes easy, others not so much. Not sure which Jackson is. But Jackson will hopefully be ready for that.

 

[BonifayRam]

Corbett was not the weak link. He was the guy of our FA OL who most deserved the payday and got it.

We are fortunate no team threw money at the others. This offseason could have been a lot more challenging had that happened.

Agreed

The overall weakest link of the 2021 top Ram 7 OL'ers (OL'ers who played a major part they played in earning the Rams their Championship) was OG David Edwards.

Ref. Austin Corbett, as an overall package, AC has excellent NFL OL value. AC's time here for most of 3 seasons demonstrated he is a true NFL professional. IMO it's obvious AW's influence had leaked all over him. AC may not be overly strong in any phase of his game however when compared to what we have seen for many seasons throughout the NFL, OL'ers are mostly abused weekly by just good defenders.....AC earned his payday.

Well that Crow must be delicious.I liked how well Coleman Shelton played as well.

Was Austin Corbett the weak link ?

We certainly do agree here on Coleman Shelton's part in winning this SB Championship.

Agreed. With Noteboom at OLT the run game will be even worse. That left side is weak.

The only saving grace is that Shelton looked like a better run blocker last season so if Allen can improve in that area they may be able to run right with a little more success.

Edwards took a step back last year. He was a decent run blocker in 2020.

While I would agree with you, neither David Edwards/ Joseph Noteboom has performed over the last 3 seasons in their run blocking assignments to rate them good. No real consistent success has been seen. You would have to agree both are still young & learning.

This will be JN's first NFL season being assigned to start in his natural best OL position. The LT post is now clearly under his control. I see no concerns. JN is a very smart guy & will figure out how to improve his run blocking. Let's check back in this time next season & see if I need to BBQ some crow.

Ref. DE will invariably always be better @ pass blocking than run blocking due to his overlength. DE is at a disadvantage being close to 6-7 inches tall & fact he was always was an OT before he was drafted. DE is a legit OT forced into playing in an interior. You just do not often see good starting OG's in run blocking that are DE's height. Going up against those NT'types in the run game is normally not successful.

If you want to point towards the reason that DE is in this position look no further than our GM/HC since both have been together (2017) ZERO drafting of OG's.

 

[Merlin]

Agreed. With Noteboom at OLT the run game will be even worse. That left side is weak.

The only saving grace is that Shelton looked like a better run blocker last season so if Allen can improve in that area they may be able to run right with a little more success.

Edwards took a step back last year. He was a decent run blocker in 2020.

Yeah run game left side will see dropoff. No doubt about it. Whit was outstanding at moving dudes and sealing them.

Hopefully it will be Jackson stepping in at OG (again that would be at LG IMO) but they need someone in there with consistent technique without leaking rushers in pass pro.

 

[Merlin]

I think we need to look into a true blocking FB/H-Back and TE. Mundt was an excellent blocker, going to miss that.

Surprises me that Edwards RB is weakening considering he played at WIS and they're a run heavy team.

I think our LG needs to be a run blocker to help.

Honestly TE is a conversation all in itself. Agreed we need a blocker. But I keep hearing how good this TE class is so maybe they have a few guys earmarked for midrounds.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Yeah Edwards was one of the disappointments last season. He played well when it mattered but his season overall was below expectations. The reason he stuck in this lineup was his ability to hold up to opposing 3T, which was something Boom and the others couldn't handle at that time. But I really expected him to play at a Pro Bowl level for us last season so that was disappointing to me.

Once again I would move Edwards to the right side next to Hav. That LG spot should ideally go to Jackson so all he has to do is slide outside when needed, and enables his feet to not be reworked like would happen if he was to compete on the right side. Now some OL the footwork stuff comes easy, others not so much. Not sure which Jackson is. But Jackson will hopefully be ready for that.

As we’ve seen last summer Oline plans are always subject to change. Maybe it will work out the way that you say.

 

[So Ram]

Max Pircher has been working at Center during OTA’s last season.He is listed as a OT? Just thinking how he is coach Carberry’s project.

Who is Adrain Ealy from Oklahoma?

Drake Jackson a center from Kentucky?

Then Chandler Brewer is into his 4th season like Edwards & Evans. Les Snead has built this Offensive Line from within & is pretty cool.

Last summer at Training Camp Andrew Whitworth took time with Josh Noteboom & Rob Havenstien to pass on the torch. The 3 of them worked on concepts of the Pass Rush & Footwork.
Those are the little things I like to see.Brian Allen worked extra on balance power & leverage you need to call him up and get him an Uber Uber right now ridiculous or he even goes here and tells you what he has or not Uber and you should already have

Agreed

The overall weakest link of the 2021 top Ram 7 OL'ers (OL'ers who played a major part they played in earning the Rams their Championship) was OG David Edwards.

Ref. Austin Corbett, as an overall package, AC has excellent NFL OL value. AC's time here for most of 3 seasons demonstrated he is a true NFL professional. IMO it's obvious AW's influence had leaked all over him. AC may not be overly strong in any phase of his game however when compared to what we have seen for many seasons throughout the NFL, OL'ers are mostly abused weekly by just good defenders.....AC earned his payday.


We certainly do agree here on Coleman Shelton's part in winning this SB Championship.

While I would agree with you, neither David Edwards/ Joseph Noteboom has performed over the last 3 seasons in their run blocking assignments to rate them good. No real consistent success has been seen. You would have to agree both are still young & learning.

This will be JN's first NFL season being assigned to start in his natural best OL position. The LT post is now clearly under his control. I see no concerns. JN is a very smart guy & will figure out how to improve his run blocking. Let's check back in this time next season & see if I need to BBQ some crow.

Ref. DE will invariably always be better @ pass blocking than run blocking due to his overlength. DE is at a disadvantage being close to 6-7 inches tall & fact he was always was an OT before he was drafted. DE is a legit OT forced into playing in an interior. You just do not often see good starting OG's in run blocking that are DE's height. Going up against those NT'types in the run game is normally not successful.

If you want to point towards the reason that DE is in this position look no further than our GM/HC since both have been together (2017) ZERO drafting of OG's.

hey Bonifay’d, no eating crow We’ve stayed the course.

My opinion though is different as of now ? I don’t go by stats.I’m more like Raheem Morris. Lol-

The one thing about JN would be how the running game has done when he has started.If my memory serves me right Akers does better with JN than when AW was the LT? Don’t know if that is true or a stat you can look up?
In 2021 JN didn’t get that much playing time.I thought he was going to be impossible to keep,but his injury might have helped lower his price tag. He also wants to be a Rams which is awesome.

DE surprised me with CS at guard & DE playing LT.

—Austin Corbett was who he was,but imo he might have been a weak link in the running game?? I just thought he is replaceable & wonder how Big Rob does without him? It’s hard to say,but Corbett was the most expensive player to keep and was worth letting him go to Carolina.I wonder if he helps get a comp pick?

There are young players coming up,so I like the growth & Carberry just needs to keep coaching them up.

Cheers

 

[So Ram]

As we’ve seen last summer Oline plans are always subject to change. Maybe it will work out the way that you say.

Imo Merlin is absolutely out of his Freaking mind if he thinks that will happen.AJ Jackson is not a Guard ? Iowa Ram thinks he is & is his best position as a NFL player.
I don’t see it like that at All.If your talking about playing RT or LT I’d have to think about ? David Edwards has been The Rams starting LG the last 2 seasons.He also played LT. I don’t know how things played out though.

Bonifay’d your the man when it comes to O’Lineman Snaps & position. AJ Jackson has actually taken NFL snaps ? If so what position.

I was most impressed with Coleman Shelton in a couple games.The dude just plays nasty & finishes.He had a lot of pancakes I enjoyed on a couple Sundays.I also think the running game was better with him playing.

Merlin talking about DE as playing poorly might be true,but not as a fault? I don’t know how things will playout like you said though & things change.

 

[OldSchool]

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[BonifayRam]

Brian Allen reveals he played through partially torn UCL for half the 2021 season​

Cameron DaSilva April 22, 2022

Brian Allen reveals he played through partially torn UCL for half the 2021 season

Brian Allen partially tore his UCL in the Rams’ loss to the Titans, but he played through the injury for about half the season

theramswire.usatoday.com

Brian Allen has dealt with a number of injuries in his short time as an NFL starter. He missed half the 2019 season with a knee injury, which subsequently caused him to lose his starting spot in 2020 to Austin Blythe.

He returned as the Rams’ center last season but it wasn’t an injury-free campaign for him. He played just one snap against the Jaguars and missed the following week due to an MCL sprain, and he left the Rams’ Week 16 game against the Vikings after just 18 plays because of another knee injury.

What we didn’t know is that Allen played through a torn UCL in his elbow for more than half the season. He revealed on Thursday that he suffered the injury in Week 9 against the Titans, though he didn’t miss a snap.

“On the third or fourth play of the Titans game, I partially tore my UCL in my elbow, which is like Tommy John, and nothing that needed surgery or anything like that,” he said. “But it was a minor tear that was kind of aggravating. But it’s the NFL. Everyone’s hurt and dealing with something. I think Tennessee was Week 8 or 9 so that was the first time in the season I was facing adversity with my body. Just one of those things that’s annoying – kind of annoying to have to snap with a brace with your arm locked out and things like that, but you figure it out and get through it and the situation is the situation. Just keep getting it stronger. It stopped bothering me probably around the middle of the playoffs. Felt good. I think I took the brace off like Week 15 or 16 maybe, so I wore it for a while.”

Allen’s elbow doesn’t seem to be an issue or hindrance now, seeing as he shed the brace late in the year and he said it felt good in the middle of the playoffs. He’ll be back as the Rams’ starting center next season after signing a three-year extension, a hard-earned deal for the former third-round pick who has faced plenty of adversity in his brief NFL career thus far.

 

[ottoman89]

So a healthy Brian Allen is a better Brian Allen next year. I'm ready to eat more Brian Allen crow!

 

[Merlin]

Brian Allen reveals he played through partially torn UCL for half the 2021 season

This makes me even more thankful they held on to Shelton.

 

[ArkyRamsFan]

Brian Allen was drafted in the Fourth round.
Just sayin'

~ArkyRamsFan~

 

[oldnotdead]

The Rams wanted a power run attack between the tackles. I said in 2020 that they needed to ditch their exclusive reliance on the outside zone concept as their primary run blocking scheme. Back then I said running inside would make their play action that much better. I said they should move to a gap blocking concept in their run attack inside.

Last year they ran an occasional inside zone but relied upon a power concept (a gap blocking style) for their inside run attack. The problem is that without a lead blocker they were always a man short. For those who don't understand what I'm saying I will illustrate one simple concept. Against an even front like a conventional 4-3, they used Allen to double with Edwards their worst OG on the left 3T. Corbett would take his 3T and try to block him to his right. Havenstein would do likewise with the edge facing him. Whitworth would block his edge to the left. Akers would take the handoff and hit the A gap but the MIKE and the other ILB are waiting for him totally unblocked. McVay's flawed design assumed Akers would break that tackle or the WR alignment would influence both ILBs out of the A gaps. Too often that didn't happen. Or they tried to man up on the blocks in a pure man blocking style with Allen not doubling but taking the one of the ILBs, generally the MIKE. That assumed that both OGs would open the A gaps. The reality is that one or both couldn't.

Same play with a FB. The OL blocking remains the same with the FB taking the MIKE and the RB reading the gap off that block. With an H-back depending upon the front they face it would vary. But in this hypothetical an even 4-3. Allen would double with one of the OGs. For purposes of this hypothetical, the H-back is aligned to the right. Allen would double the 3T with the RG and either the H-back or RT would pull to take the MIKE. If the RT pulls the H-back blocks the edge facing the RT. Against a 3-4 Allen doubles with the 3T, the LG pulls and takes one of the ILBs, The LT pivots and blocks the edge to his side to the left. The HB or FB leads and takes the second ILB.

This of course is simplistic and there are variations as the fronts they will face will vary. But two things are illustrated the LT in all cases on an inside run isn't normally asked to make a second level block so this idea that Noteboom would downgrade the run game is false. They couldn't run with Whitworth last year. Secondly, the scheme used by McVay was completely flawed by design and is the real problem. Without a FB or HB to provide that lead block the play is DOA as it's one blocker too short.

The Rams realized that they had to get away from their exclusive use of the outside zone as their run blocking scheme. In that old scheme, the LT must pull and make a second-level block. The problem with the outside zone is t that relies upon the D making an error by not maintaining gap discipline because if they do the run is DOA. But if you bothered to break down Noteboom's blocking last year his blocking was fine.

I'm hoping that Coen will rectify this glaring error. Asking the OL to block 6 guys makes no sense. In that case, Allen would chip block and then get to the MIKE if he's standing like a statue and hasn't moved to fill the gap. It's such a basic thing.

 

[So Ram]

Brian Allen was drafted in the Fourth round.
Just sayin'

~ArkyRamsFan~

& he just resigned for 3 & already has been a Ram 4. Makes 7. Just saying he is still carrying the JS & AB torch.2018 SuperBowl & 2021 SuperBowl that is 2 out of his 4 season he has been.