A thoughtful & enlightening conversation. Well-done by the OP setting the tone, & everyone involved speaking respectfully. My thoughts are that it's best of both worlds to have these two quarterbacks, and the Rams decade of bad luck could have a silver lining if that's the case.
Bradford Still My QB
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Here's a wikilink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restricted_free_agent
If we want Davis he's pretty well ours ,don't know for sure what duration ,it may be in the link I only read the table ,I rate the likelihood someone offers him enough to owe us a first round choice as pretty remote since guys who are physically more impressive will be available in nearly any first round scenario ,but armed with that pick wherever it might be plus our own first we could likely trade up to get the first or second rated QB anyway so in regards to Davis he's a windfall asset if he continue to perform at his current level.
I can't geyt over the FACT that it was not his level of play that prevented us from beating Dallas and they are so highly thought of since our game with them .IMO if Greg Williams can be worth his salt and get this defense playing up to his billing we have a formula that can be formidable this year .
when SB comes back he will be battling AD for the #1 QB spot. I would guess that depending on how this season turns out, Davis will be the incumbent and Bradford would have to win the job from him.
If Bradford is named the starting QB next season, then my guess is he will have a short leash..maybe 4 games, to prove he deserves the spot
If Bradford is named the starting QB next season, then my guess is he will have a short leash..maybe 4 games, to prove he deserves the spot
Shouldn't the Rams actually learn from Washington in this case? I mean, look how the worm has turned there. Not saying Davis is going to tank like Cousins but I think it would be wise to exhaust all options. I think the Rams should slow-play the situation and make SURE Bradford isn't the answer.
My hope is that they are both back next year and battling for the starting job. I've never felt that Bradford has dogged it or put in less effort because he didn't have any competition but if he actually takes his game to the next level to clearly win the QB battle, that would be a great thing for the Rams. He was already playing pretty well and to go "up" from there would be awesome.
Davis deserves every chance at the starting job too and if this hypothetical QB battle is even close, Davis wins to keep the continuity and because of the much smaller contract. Clinically speaking, the best case scenario is that Bradford really shines, the Rams have a solid backup/insurance plan for 2015 and a hot commodity moving forward from there.
My hope is that they are both back next year and battling for the starting job. I've never felt that Bradford has dogged it or put in less effort because he didn't have any competition but if he actually takes his game to the next level to clearly win the QB battle, that would be a great thing for the Rams. He was already playing pretty well and to go "up" from there would be awesome.
Davis deserves every chance at the starting job too and if this hypothetical QB battle is even close, Davis wins to keep the continuity and because of the much smaller contract. Clinically speaking, the best case scenario is that Bradford really shines, the Rams have a solid backup/insurance plan for 2015 and a hot commodity moving forward from there.
Big Willie
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I am on the fence. I like Sam and believe he can be a high quality NFL QB, but he has holes in his game. Specifically, I think he lacks creativity and does not inspire his teammates to rally behind him. He needs an exceptional line in front of him or he struggles. AD on the other hand, doesn't have these limitations, but I think he lacks the desired arm strength and his size creates limitations only a few QBs have been able to overcome. Ideally, you have both in 2015 (provided you can sign Sam to an extension for 2015-2016 to reduce next years salary). My suggestion is to sign SB to that deal, evaluate the QBs in the draft and if you see one you love and have the chance of getting him, trade Bradford and let AD be your bridge guy.
I've never felt that Bradford wasn't trying his hardest either.
That's part of the problem.
Someone can have all the talent in the world and still never put it all together.
Outside factors may sometimes play a part, but the end result is still the same.
If Austin Davis continues to play like he has, can continue to improve, and can stay on the field, he's the QB I want the Rams to get behind going forward.
That's part of the problem.
Someone can have all the talent in the world and still never put it all together.
Outside factors may sometimes play a part, but the end result is still the same.
If Austin Davis continues to play like he has, can continue to improve, and can stay on the field, he's the QB I want the Rams to get behind going forward.
Well as of yet Davis hasn't imploded but yeah I've thought that with Cousins was an example we aught to coach our enthusiasm, but they have been playing for relatively the same time and thus far Davis hasn't regressed in fact he's progressed so ,hopefully he's more Nick Foles than Cousins.
bwdenverram
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I think pre-this year I would agree in terms of being to conservative. But everything I saw in preseason says that was over. He was throwing bullets all over the place. I think there was finally a certain level of comfort for him that he finally had guys that would make plays. Just a damn shame we didn't get to find out.
Will also add the one thing Austin seems to have that Bradford probably never will is a sense of awareness to escape pressure. Maybe that's just pure athleticism but Austin has definitely kept plays alive with his legs.
Sitting in a full diaper is much more likely.
Too much uncertainty with Bradford for me to really speculate. I am sure if Fisher/Snead had their wish he would be healthy and the long term QB. Not many more talented QBs out there.
OkieRamFan
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I just have a hard time believing that Fisher & Snead would kick Sam to the curb. They know what they have in Sam. If they do I suspect that it will come back to bite them. We are playing the QB this weekend whose career has been very similar to Sam's, look how he has finally prospered. My guess is that the Ram's will sign Sam to an extension that both he and the club can live with. Otherwise Sam will move on to Dallas or Denver or Arizona, R&R for a year then take over the retiring starter.
And that I would not let happen,I'd trade him for a 7th round pick out of the conference ,a trade and a release are to my knowledge the same cap hit but I don't want and the Rams shouldn't want another of our former QB's leading a team in our division to a Super Bowl or even just beating us
lockdnram21
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Sam might not even be able to play all of next season. He will probably be sidelined. How do u know The Rams know what they have in him. imo he hasnt shown much.
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Not much coming out, either. Winston and Mariota aren't drawing anything remotely close to the hype Luck and RG3 warranted.
Very nice thread. Lots of thoughtful comments throughout.
Two things occur to me...
In Davis' first 5 career starts, the Rams have averaged just shy of 25 ppg. That's winning football, fellas. With even halfway decent scoring defense from GW's new D we would be 4-2 today, maybe even 5-1.
And let me re emphasize that these were Davis' first 5 career starts. I think it's reasonable to expect him to grow and improve with experience and coaching. I want to see where he's at by season's end.
The other thing is about Bradford. Nobody has ever accused either Fisher or Demoff of being impetuous, have they? I think we can rest assured that both will carefully weigh all Bradford and QB related options at season's end.
The best possible scenario would seem to be keeping Bradford after a deep salary cut (not a lengthy restructure, but a salary cut), while drafting a QB that they like. The round of the drafted QB based upon how well Davis played throughout the season.
Then let them all compete for the starting position. A no lose proposition, indeed.
Two things occur to me...
In Davis' first 5 career starts, the Rams have averaged just shy of 25 ppg. That's winning football, fellas. With even halfway decent scoring defense from GW's new D we would be 4-2 today, maybe even 5-1.
And let me re emphasize that these were Davis' first 5 career starts. I think it's reasonable to expect him to grow and improve with experience and coaching. I want to see where he's at by season's end.
The other thing is about Bradford. Nobody has ever accused either Fisher or Demoff of being impetuous, have they? I think we can rest assured that both will carefully weigh all Bradford and QB related options at season's end.
The best possible scenario would seem to be keeping Bradford after a deep salary cut (not a lengthy restructure, but a salary cut), while drafting a QB that they like. The round of the drafted QB based upon how well Davis played throughout the season.
Then let them all compete for the starting position. A no lose proposition, indeed.
what i would give to have Jim Everett as our starting QB right now.
This isn't the first time I've read a comment from a Rams fan questioning AD's size and I just wonder why that is. It's not like he's Doug Flutie or even Manziel, Brees, or Vick who are all barely 6 feet tall.
